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Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Mustached Demon posted:

toddlers are really weird about food it's ok

they're learning how to process taste and don't even taste food the same way adults do

rn our 5 year old has to be negotiated into wearing basically anything but the 18 month old has developed a taste a spicy peanut noodles and stuff

very interesting

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DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Cabbages and Kings posted:

rn our 5 year old has to be negotiated into wearing basically anything but the 18 month old has developed a taste a spicy peanut noodles and stuff

ok I'm certainly not a nutritionist but your five your old may be eating incorrectly.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Cabbages and Kings posted:

rn our 5 year old has to be negotiated into wearing basically anything but the 18 month old has developed a taste a spicy peanut noodles and stuff

very interesting

when my daughter was about a year old we took her to a Greek restaurant and I got her to happily consume octopus

It remains my proudest moment in parenting history, I had no idea what was to come

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

unlimited shrimp posted:

I kind of envy my daughter's ability to be contented with plain noodles or steamed broccoli. Our dinners are like a grand tour of the globe every week and, while I'm happy we're exposing the kids to more variety and novelty than we had growing up, I'm also worried we're promoting an unhealthy view of food as more about novelty or pleasure and less about nutrition and sustenance.

Some nights we do the chicken strip or frozen pizza thing, but there'll be weeks where it's like a curry on Monday, stir fry on Tuesday, fajitas on Wednesday, oh there's cabbage left over so let's do okonomiyaki on Thursday, rarebit Friday, and hey it's the weekend we finally have time enough to do the stew/paprikash/etouffee/etc.

... My mother-in-law is frightened of black pepper & most of what I ate growing up came out of a box but we may have over-corrected.

Food as entertainment is kind of fraught, sure. But better to seek novelty and pleasure there than booze and drugs I guess? Kind of feel like those are the options for adults.

Our three-month-old preemie is still on the fancy $50/can super sensitive formula bullshit that gives her painful gas and reflux, so even steamed broccoli and chicken nugz sounds like an impossible dream right now.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
My kiddo loves carrots, so the other day I gave her some carrot slices she ate half, then started chewing up another, stood up, looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't like carrots" and spit everything in her mouth onto the floor then tried to run off.

Lord help me

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

MacheteZombie posted:

My kiddo loves carrots, so the other day I gave her some carrot slices she ate half, then started chewing up another, stood up, looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't like carrots" and spit everything in her mouth onto the floor then tried to run off.

Lord help me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncBcJ8RFteg

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006
On taco night my 4yo refuses to enter the dining room. He runs away anytime we eat anything new.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
We got our almost 3 year old to eat just about everything, by agreeing to write words on a magnadoodle for him in exchange for eating.

"Okay, I'll write twelve down for you if you eat 6 carrots" was way way way way more effective than other bribery.

And he acts like he's the world's best negotiator if he talks us into two words for the same amount of vegetables.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

PerniciousKnid posted:

On taco night my 4yo refuses to enter the dining room. He runs away anytime we eat anything new.

When we first stated taco nights we would make her tacos for her and she hated it, so now we put everything on the table and let her choose her taco ingredients and now it works! she eats the tortilla by itself and everything else in their own separate portions

Mustached Demon posted:

toddlers are really weird about food it's ok

they're learning how to process taste and don't even taste food the same way adults do

To tack on to thus, their taste buds also change like every for months!

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

my kid is picky and he also like never wants to eat, he is way more interested in playing. it's really hard to get him to sit down and eat something, and especially at dinner i end up chasing him all over the house and putting food in front of his face so he takes a bite. very annoying lol. at least his language skills are really developing on track!

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
I've found with my daughter who isn't quite a toddler yet that for every new thing you have to just keep trying and after 4-5 times she'll start enjoying it. Early on it seems more about textures. Although fish was definitely not her favourite. Sorry kid, gotta test those allergens.

Also we found out a little while ago that she has a milk protein allergy and so many things about her newborn and early days make sense now. From wanting to sleep while being held old, to the incredible amounts of spit up to the constipation, it's insane. Kind of frustrating since so many people said "hey that's how babies are sometimes" but it's not like it would have been easy to guess that that's what the issue was. As soon as she had a reaction we cut out dairy anyway before she got tested, but once we learned my wife had to cut dairy too she's been doing really well. It's a relief.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


ikanreed posted:

We got our almost 3 year old to eat just about everything, by agreeing to write words on a magnadoodle for him in exchange for eating.

"Okay, I'll write twelve down for you if you eat 6 carrots" was way way way way more effective than other bribery.

And he acts like he's the world's best negotiator if he talks us into two words for the same amount of vegetables.

Lol kid brains own

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Yeah we managed to get our older kid to eat early on by promising to read, so we'd read a page, and stop, and tell him "want me to read more? eat a bite"

The younger one we *cannot* get to eat consistently, with anything, ever. He just doesn't want to. No fuckin clue why!

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004
Our youngest isn't a picky eater, it's more like he gets bored with eating and stops. We are seeing a specialist soon, but he's been eating more lately and I am grateful. Today I got him to eat pickles and apples. Baby steps, I know, but food issues like this are exhausting.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

We had another kid last week, and honestly I'm having a lot of fun not telling anyone the sex until they specifically ask about the genitalia. It's gonna be harder when we figure out a name, but for now, I'm going all in on "the baby" and "it" even referring to it.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Okay it's weird to have a crib full of unnamed meat

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

ikanreed posted:

Okay it's weird to have a crib full of unnamed meat

Costco is a beautiful name

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
I apparently didn't have a name for a month because my parents were so indecisive.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

aaron paul just sought a legal name change for his 9 month old lol

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

two foods my 22 mo old loved were ramen noodles and paneer tiki masala. with no spice, the Indian food was basically rich tomato soup with hunks of cheese, and we have pictures of her entire face and hair being a bright red smiling orb from her eating it by the handful. she’d also slurp down ramen noodles by handfuls so big, we would get concerned.

this week, we had both of these back to back and she cried at the Indian food, and shoved the noodles off her tray, but ate the backup microwaved hotdog in less than a minute.

more Indian food for me I guess.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
we couldn’t leave the hospital without registering a name. thankfully it only took us 3 days..

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Dreylad posted:

I apparently didn't have a name for a month because my parents were so indecisive.

Huh. We weren't allowed to leave the hospital without a name.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

unlimited shrimp posted:

Huh. We weren't allowed to leave the hospital without a name.

They say things like this because it creates a ton of paperwork for them if you refuse, but you can actually refuse.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




ikanreed posted:

They say things like this because it creates a ton of paperwork for them if you refuse, but you can actually refuse.

yes but then you mess up you insurance coverage. they bill a bunch to the baby. because insurance in the US is terrible.

a product originally created for cargo on ships shouldn’t be part of health care.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
What if we made the mere process of birthing a child an implicit threat to the financial stability of the entire rest of your life?

Why aren't people having kids anymore?

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
If you didn't have insurance in the US, roughly how much would you expect to pay to give birth?

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Not being able to afford another mat leave without employer top-up is one of the reasons we're stopping at 3 and we're in relatively socialized Canada. We don't understand how you afford having any kids at all in the States.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

Elissimpark posted:

If you didn't have insurance in the US, roughly how much would you expect to pay to give birth?

really just depends on the hospital, they all have different completely made up prices. when my kid was born we paid 4 or 5 thousand out of pocket and insurance paid like 80 thousand. the amount billed was probably even more than that.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
the hospital paid us. sounds like you guys need a new doctor.

Struensee
Nov 9, 2011

Dreylad posted:

I apparently didn't have a name for a month because my parents were so indecisive.

It took us 3 months for our youngest.

Struensee
Nov 9, 2011

unlimited shrimp posted:

We don't understand how you afford having any kids at all in the States.

Save money by avoiding unnecessary expenses like doctor's appointments, shots, food and diapers.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

For names, I'm in socialist Denmark, which means that the moment the baby is born, the midwife (or possibly doctor if applicable) asks if there's a name and then prints a literal label with the social security number and name of the kid. If it doesn't have a name, it's just called "infant boy/girl [mother's last name]", which is what my baby is legally called right now. Then you get to report to the local (state) church when you have a name and they'll fix a birth certificate and stuff. The church has kept records of births and deaths and names for centuries, so they get to be in charge of names for everyone still, except in the part that was occupied by Germany until WWI.

Calling it Babby or little brother works pretty well though. And we're not getting any bills for the birth. In fact, I got a notification that I'm getting a (rather small) quarterly government payout for having another kid.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
oh I was joking but apparently that happens places? wild.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

It's 2327 DKK (around 300 USD) quarterly, and my wife gets the same (until last year or so, the mother got it all). It's a remnant of our actual socialist past where someone recognized that having kids is in fact expensive in terms of especially clothes but also gear and childcare and maybe food.
I think the monthly fee for kindergarden for the 5 year old is a bit higher though, it's pretty hollowed out (which is fine for me, I don't deserve even more income).

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
my wife gets a bunch of Trudeau bucks every month for our kids lol. I think like $500 CAD for both right now or something like that.

BonHair posted:

For names, I'm in socialist Denmark, which means that the moment the baby is born, the midwife (or possibly doctor if applicable) asks if there's a name and then prints a literal label with the social security number and name of the kid. If it doesn't have a name, it's just called "infant boy/girl [mother's last name]", which is what my baby is legally called right now. Then you get to report to the local (state) church when you have a name and they'll fix a birth certificate and stuff. The church has kept records of births and deaths and names for centuries, so they get to be in charge of names for everyone still, except in the part that was occupied by Germany until WWI.

this is similar here. you just leave the hospital with Baby <Mother's Maiden Name> and you're required to register your baby with the province in 30 days.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

lobster shirt posted:

really just depends on the hospital, they all have different completely made up prices. when my kid was born we paid 4 or 5 thousand out of pocket and insurance paid like 80 thousand. the amount billed was probably even more than that.

Good lord. Our first was a hospital birth, which was public, so other than the cost of the useless doula (like $800 AUD) it was free.

The second and third were homebirths, which we paid the two midwives about $3k each time, which included a whole bunch of pre- and post-natal care. They go above and beyond constantly with their clients so I have no idea how they haven't exploded from stress yet.

Even paying that much would probably be viewed as a bougie middle-class thing here.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
in America before they let you leave the maternity ward you have to spin this giant wheel and half the slots just say "kill your baby".

and you just gotta do what the wheel says.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

in America before they let you leave the maternity ward you have to spin this giant wheel and half the slots just say "kill your baby".

and you just gotta do what the wheel says.

It's in the Bible, gotta do it!

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

in America before they let you leave the maternity ward you have to spin this giant wheel and half the slots just say "kill your baby".

and you just gotta do what the wheel says.

Ugh, the worst but about the home birth was having to make the wheel ourselves.

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Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Elissimpark posted:

Ugh, the worst but about the home birth was having to make the wheel ourselves.
same

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