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Alternatively, V3 has killed his way through three whole teams of replacement analysts in various violent rages and none of them ever wrote down their work in case one of the FOOLS below them tried to copy it
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disaster pastor posted:I would be certain they know everyone's identity. Even if they only got Jake and Tobias through blood, Tom's Yeerk would be very much aware that his aunt and cousins have disappeared, as has Jake's girlfriend and her family. I can't remember, does anyone know Eva made it out alive? I wonder if Tom has had any extended family members yeerked as well to keep from pesky questions about Rachel, her sisters, Naomi, and Jake.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 00:36 |
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quote:James batted a Taxxon with his massive paw. Guts spilled from the long wounds his claws had torn. Then he turned, leaped on a Hork-Bajir, sunk his teeth into the leathery neck until the Hork-Bajir lay still. Suffocated. Its throat bit out. Thank you so much for this. It's the perfect example of the dissonance of reading these kids books that feature hardcore violence, but are terrified to swear.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 01:22 |
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mind the walrus posted:Thank you so much for this. It's the perfect example of the dissonance of reading these kids books that feature hardcore violence, but are terrified to swear. Well, swearing is bad.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 02:58 |
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Chapter 25quote:Jake was down, on his back, the visser’s tentacle wrapped firmly around his throat. Chapter 26 quote:The new team made it safely back to the rehab center and into bed without being missed. Everyone, including Kelly. And that's the book. So honestly, talking to people, these two chapters are the most controversial in the series. And the people who dislike Cassie dislike her for these two chapters. And i get it, really. On the other hand, eh, you know, i understand why she did what she did. The only thing keeping Jake going at this point is his hope that he saves his family. To kill Tom would destroy him. Meanwhile, we're down to four books left, and the next book is book 51-The Absolute (I'm not the only one who notices that they seem to pick titles of books at random by this point, right? Like, Book 1 was The Invasion, which made sense because we find out about the Yeerk invasion. Book 8 was The Alien....we meet Ax for the first time. Book 10 was The Android, and we learn about the Chee and meet Erek. I understand why those books were titled this way. This book we just finished was "The Ultimate". What's that mean?
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 03:12 |
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Yeah, and here we are at the Animorph's actual lowest point. The Yeerks have the ability to morph, literally the only advantage they still had going for them. Oh and also everyone and everything is absolutely shattered. This was an enormous kick in the gut to read as a kid.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 03:40 |
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If I remember right, next book is The Last Caper
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 03:45 |
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Kazzah posted:If I remember right, next book is The Last Caper and what a caper it is
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 04:08 |
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I do find it very emotionally believable that a girl like Cassie would have the instinct to stop Jake from going after Tom as both an emotional move and strategic move, but be unable to articulate exactly why.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 04:11 |
Yeah, I thought she gave them the cube to try cause a schism in the Yeerk ranks. Stopping Jake from murdering his brother is an entirely different kettle of fish, and I can understand that completely.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 05:42 |
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The morphing cube requires an already morph-capable person to pass the morphing power along, no? Elfangor put one if his hands against it in book 1, one of the Animorphs put their hands against it for David... they sort of skipped over the process in this book, but I think it's still the case, it can't just grant somebody the morphing ability by itself. So Tom running off with it as some kind of power grab doesn't actually help him - the only person within the Yeerk ranks with the morphing power who can activate it is V1/Alloran. edit - Also I completely forgot how this final scene plays out. I remembered it as Cassie openly choosing to just give the Yeerks the morphing cube as some kind of misguided show of peace or something. Not preventing Jake from killing his brother to stop them from getting it, which is way more extenuating.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 07:40 |
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freebooter posted:The morphing cube requires an already morph-capable person to pass the morphing power along, no? Elfangor put one if his hands against it in book 1, one of the Animorphs put their hands against it for David... they sort of skipped over the process in this book, but I think it's still the case, it can't just grant somebody the morphing ability by itself. Does Tom's yeerk know that, though? I could definitely see him being like 'ahaha yesss, yess, oh wait, poo poo. drat. Uhhhh uhhh ok hey Visser look what I fouuuuund! Had to hide from the andalites/animorphs for a bit though, that's why it took so long to report in..." Major series ending spoilers: well, Cassie's heart was in right place, I guess. Too bad she just made things worse, Tom still dies on Jake's orders... but now it's their cousin who does it at the cost of her own life. I dunno, I think I have more to say but I'll wait until we get there
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 10:15 |
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Rando Yeerk resistance movement sympathizer saving Jake's life from Visser One always seemed like kind of an rear end-pull to me, but eh. Fortunately for that contrivance the only thing anyone remembers from the end of this book is Cassie stopping Jake from killing Tom.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 11:49 |
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JesusSinfulHands posted:Rando Yeerk resistance movement sympathizer saving Jake's life from Visser One always seemed like kind of an rear end-pull to me, but eh. Fortunately for that contrivance the only thing anyone remembers from the end of this book is Cassie stopping Jake from killing Tom. I kind of liked this because I thought they'd completely forgotten about the Yeerk resistance only to suddenly remember it a book or two ago only to handwave it away as them having dropped out of touch. I would have preferred it if the resistance had been a much larger part of the story from book 29 onwards (or in fact been introduced and used earlier - it makes a hell of a lot more sense as a plot-sparking intelligence source than the Chee, even though the Chee are great) but it's nice to see the concept even remotely reengaged with.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 20:08 |
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I also like how it shows up, a chaotic moment in the middle of a battle. Its got to be fueling V1's paranoia, especially now that he knows they've been spreading around the morphing tech to others and they can't possibly know for sure they have all the Animorph's identities.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 20:29 |
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freebooter posted:I kind of liked this because I thought they'd completely forgotten about the Yeerk resistance only to suddenly remember it a book or two ago only to handwave it away as them having dropped out of touch. Every (both?) book that significantly involved the Yeerk resistance has been a banger, so my opinion would be more Yeerk resistance books.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 20:30 |
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I didn't even connect that it was tied to the Yeerk Resistance of prior books. That moment could have been signposted a lot better, but yeah conceptually it's a great call to have it show up in the middle of a chaotic battle.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 02:34 |
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We'll start the next book tomorrow night.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 04:20 |
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mind the walrus posted:I didn't even connect that it was tied to the Yeerk Resistance of prior books. That moment could have been signposted a lot better, but yeah conceptually it's a great call to have it show up in the middle of a chaotic battle. Even if it's not officially The ~Resistance~ it's a demonstration that there's discord in the ranks. One thing KA consistently does really well is, instead of just having unified fronts of Alien Race 3 or whatever, there's different factions within the species. Yeerk, Andalite, Taxxon - even the Ketrans.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 00:41 |
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Book 51 was ghostwritten by Lisa Harkrader, who also wrote books 41 (Cassie in Australia) and 49 (the Animorphs try to save their parents from the Yeerks. Book 51-The Absolute Chapter 1 quote:I dove. Tucked my wings. Folded my tail. Hurtled toward earth! As far as I know, Tank Commander was only on PC, not Play Station. Chapter 2 quote:The red-tailed hawk shot toward the train. The eagles and falcons followed, banking and diving above the tracks. So, theory that the morphing ccube has to be activated aside, maybe it doesn't. Or maybe this is just a changed premise. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Nov 6, 2022 |
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I mean even if it needs to be activated they have Alloran to do it. There isn't a chance in hell any Yeerk on earth is getting the ability without V1's direct oversight anyways. Like is there a reason to think Alloran's body wouldn't be capable of 'activating' the cube?
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 03:02 |
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Jake unwittingly gave Tom the ability to morph when he handed over the cube. There's zero evidence for this theory, but it's neat.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 03:11 |
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Zore posted:I mean even if it needs to be activated they have Alloran to do it. There isn't a chance in hell any Yeerk on earth is getting the ability without V1's direct oversight anyways. No. But it does disprove Cassie's theory in the last book that Tom wouldn't turn it over.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 03:26 |
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Upside: Morph capable troops Downside: Threatening them with slicing off their limbs isn't so effective anymore dungeon cousin fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Nov 5, 2022 |
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I do think its pretty funny that between this and the Animorphs using Tobias as a backup for the Auxiliary Animorphs, Red-Tailed Hawks are now like the most common morph on Earth across the morphing population
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 14:37 |
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If this section of the narrative had more time to be pulled out I would have loved to have seen an aside about how some bird-watchers or wildlife conservationists were getting very confused about the sudden erratic spikes in populations, sightings, and areas of behavior. Hell you could go full-fore and turn that into a C-Plot about a bunch of environmentalist types, zoologists, biologists, etc. who unwittingly discover the Yeerks and decide to fight them, independently, solely as a result of tracking Animorph patterns. Suddenly the kids have a new adult faction on their side and it's like "wait what?"
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 15:03 |
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quote:<They obviously don’t have much flight experience,> Tobias directed his private thought-speak to me. <They’re upwind. Flying in formation. A flock of eagles and the falcons acting like fighter pilots, taking orders from a hawk. These are not ordinary birds out for an afternoon of joy-flying.> Interesting comment from Tobias here - I would've thought it was obvious that while the Animorphs were always very careful to avoid standing out while flying, the Yeerks have no reason to give a poo poo about that. It also suggests to me that (this immediate situation aside) getting the morphing power isn't anywhere near as much of an advantage to the Yeerks as it is to the Animorphs, for the same reason the Andalites mostly only use it for their intelligence agents: it's good for surveillance and infiltration, good for a guerilla army, but when you have thousands of bladed Hork-Bajir warriors you don't really need to go grizzly. edit - also, sympathies to the human-controllers who've spent years locked as prisoners in their own minds to parasitic aliens, who now also get to experience the body horror of morphing
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 01:49 |
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I love how often Tobias has yelled at the others to not fly in formation because birds of a different species don't do that. The Yeerks are making rookie mistakes and they don't have somebody who's been living Bird Life to tell them it looks weird.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 02:04 |
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I think even humans who aren't controllers would notice that birds of different species don't really fly with each other. But humans also pay absolutely no attention to nature unless they seek it out of their own volition and I have a very hard time getting people to even go outside and look at a lunar eclipse while it's happening or the Big Dipper, so what the gently caress do I know.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 02:19 |
I still maintain that if Visser Three actually held regular marksmanship classes the series would be over by book two at the latest.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I still maintain that if Visser Three actually held regular marksmanship classes the series would be over by book two at the latest. Dracon beams must have a loving wicked kick. They're almost as bad as stormtroopers.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 03:03 |
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mind the walrus posted:If this section of the narrative had more time to be pulled out I would have loved to have seen an aside about how some bird-watchers or wildlife conservationists were getting very confused about the sudden erratic spikes in populations, sightings, and areas of behavior. As I morphed the californian condor-
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 03:08 |
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Chapter 3quote:“TSEEEEEEEER!” i don't know if this got mentioned, but the Peregrine Falcon is world's the fastest animal. i forget if we ever discussed the different raptors people morph into. Anyone want me to go into that? Chapter 4 quote:The falcon dropped from the sky. Another peregrine zeroed in on Tobias. Just a thought, but do you think Yeerks have an advantage at morphing in controlling the instincts of their morphs, since they do that with their hosts anyway? Or is it a disadvantage? The fact that they take control over hosts means they don't have experience integrating the animal's needs and instincts with theirs?
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 03:12 |
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Star Man posted:I think even humans who aren't controllers would notice that birds of different species don't really fly with each other. But humans also pay absolutely no attention to nature unless they seek it out of their own volition and I have a very hard time getting people to even go outside and look at a lunar eclipse while it's happening or the Big Dipper, so what the gently caress do I know. What's your job? (I remember my uncle pointing to Sirius and declaring, "see that? It's the planet Jupiter, also known as the evening star")
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 03:40 |
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I'd say disadvantage, because now it's 2 channels competing instead of just 1.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 03:48 |
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Well now I'm wondering if they gave the morph power directly to any yeerks? or just to hosts? a mix? I assume to hosts, because demorphing into a yeerk is an even worse situation than the disabled animorphs face. Also you can promote/demote/transfer a yeerk while keeping the morph body capable. and of course there's maybe a risk of yeerks intentionally choosing to become nothlits. or just wanting it easier to keep them in line and 'loyal'.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 04:05 |
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Tree Bucket posted:What's your job? Not in astronomy or education. I read too many astronomy books as a kid and got my screen name from my parents because of it.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 04:07 |
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Wouldn't you have to give the morphing power to both the yeerk and the host or else the human just shifts around the yeerk and tears it apart? Does the yeerk then have to carefully morph itself and the human at the same time so that the resulting body horror show doesn't kill them both?
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 04:43 |
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None of that makes sense, because Visser One would never be able to morph while controlling Alloran's body.
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Edna Mode posted:Wouldn't you have to give the morphing power to both the yeerk and the host or else the human just shifts around the yeerk and tears it apart? Does the yeerk then have to carefully morph itself and the human at the same time so that the resulting body horror show doesn't kill them both? I mean its dumb but we have the Visser 1 and Alloran combo who has shown since book 1 if the host morphs it just sort of brings the Yeerk along for the ride and we handwave why. Maybe when infested the Yeerk counts as 'part' of the host. Like clothes
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