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the irony of going on twitter to complain as a competitor to cohost to write a 100 tweet twitter thread about how your competitor's tos is somehow evil instead of writing about it on your own platform
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Im fine with being very cynical of big corpos and their legalese, but as a non beep boop i’m ok with being more lenient about the intentions of a couple of devs working on a small grassroots project. Maybe i’m an idiot i don’t know
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Nov 5, 2022 18:37
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say no to rules man
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Nov 5, 2022 18:38
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we need some rules Crip
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well, simply put, having a dispute resolution clause doesn't mean they're going to sue you for lying or using browser cache. it also doesn't mean you're gonna get sued for posting a patreon link or whatever, lmao (...they seem overly concerned about this.) the class action waiver is bullshit, but you always have an opt-out. that's assuming a website tos would even be considered a valid contract, which it probably wouldn't be (and afaik has not been tested in court regardless)
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Nov 5, 2022 18:40
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The only truly dumb thing in the cohost rules is the "we might let people post anime child porn in the future. not sure if that's good or not. awaiting community feedback".
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Nov 5, 2022 18:44
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oh, they run a marketplace kinda thing i guess? lol good intentions or no, yeah that explains it
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they seem to be mad about "provide support for your content" part. the tos saysquote:You understand that any User Content you make available may be viewed by and accessible to ASSC and other Users. You agree to provide support for your User Content. The User Content must not be stored in a data repository that would enable any third-party access. You must store all User Content in a manner which enables you to identify, segregate and selectively delete such User Content. i suspect that what it's trying to talk about is your repsponsibility after you download user content. you can't rehost it somewhere for everyone to get. ie, if you subscribe to someone's user content and pay for it, you aren't allowed to then just give it away. and you aren't allowed to write it to media you don't fully control (you can't put it on the blockchain or some poo poo idk). there are couple other interpretations, but they're terrible: it _can't_ be "you're not allowed to link to stuff that's available on your website." that'd be next-level dumb. they might be trying to say "you can't host stuff that would enable third parties to access cohost.org (e.g. a script that you're gonna use a misconfiguration on to do an SSI attack)." this is reasonable, but it's kind of a tortured interpretation i'm like 99% sure it's the first one, but it is indeed written terribly, and internet people are generally either too dumb or too disingenuous to attempt to give it a good-faith reading. and asking for clarification and not melting down until you get it is clearly gonna be right out for that type of person
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Nov 5, 2022 18:49
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I mean if ever there was something people would need support after seeing, it'd be my posts,
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Achmed Jones posted:they seem to be mad about "provide support for your content" part interesting interpretation. i'm like 99% sure its the second one: Achmed Jones posted:they might be trying to say "you can't host stuff that would enable third parties to access cohost.org (e.g. a script that you're gonna use a misconfiguration on to do an SSI attack)." this is reasonable, but it's kind of a tortured interpretation i don't think that's tortured at all. if you read it plainly that seems to be pretty much exactly what they're saying. yeah it's worded terribly, but i've never read a no-poo poo Binding Contract that was goddamn poetry lol basically it's saying "if you gently caress up our service, we'll hold you responsible. more than that, you must clean up your own mess." which is eminently reasonable imo like i said this is all academic anyway. i just did a(n admittedly very) quick search, and yeah, there's no settled precedent for software licensing even, which as a paid product you're forced to scroll through the terms for is undoubtedly going to be given more weight than a free website that doesn't make you do so
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Nov 5, 2022 18:57
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I’m sure the Facebook tos is much more permissive and user friendly
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i just skimmed before (because come on), but i gave it a good look since there's a thread about this on cohost extremely powerful dunning-kruger energy, holy poo poo.
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https://twitter.com/rahaeli/status/1588764584877428736 lol
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https://twitter.com/ordinarymothman/status/1588959632072282112?s=20&t=_fO6dq4O0eDRV3dUBLtjGw
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lol
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Nov 5, 2022 20:25
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yes please stay ontwitter
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aw frig aw dang it posted:https://twitter.com/ordinarymothman/status/1588959632072282112?s=20&t=_fO6dq4O0eDRV3dUBLtjGw “knows more about the internet than you do”
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yeah i mean, im not gonna argue about it, you might well be right. they'll probably refine it one way or the other and then it's settled
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Nov 5, 2022 20:27
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i'm still like 6100 in line lol
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Progressive JPEG posted:i'm still like 6100 in line lol you're still safe from the TOS, run while you can
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theres just pages of insane poo poo lmao like https://twitter.com/rahaeli/status/1588766181896364032 lol. lmao or https://twitter.com/rahaeli/status/1588769281155670016 "let's stop talking about the first thing, which i wasn't really talking about anyway, and talk about my thing". lol she's hustling fan fiction authors? https://twitter.com/rahaeli/status/1588773300133666816  if you use a negative connotation of this word, it seems bad etc. etc. there just so much there. oh man
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Nov 5, 2022 20:32
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i reiterate: i hope they stay on twitter
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that and i hope anyone posting twitter embeds in this thread is immediately banned. from here, cohost, and possibly their homes
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honestly if that twitter thread keeps the shipping holy war twitter weirdos off the site then they should continue posting lol
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Nov 5, 2022 20:47
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ah I guess I could have just assumed that this person is crazy and/or acting in bad faith
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Nov 5, 2022 20:47
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too much time on their hands being a founder
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Dijkstracula posted:ah I guess I could have just assumed that this person is crazy and/or acting in bad faith it's on the internet
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i opened their tweet thread and it was like a zillion messages so i read one or two and closed the tab one way or the other this thing will resolve itself, because i really doubt the creators of cohost want to be policing creators posting or linking their own stuff on that website
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i am perfectly interested in if there is some tos fuckery or such going on at cohost, hardly impossible, but my level of urgency is such that i will read precisely zero tweet threads about it.
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Nov 5, 2022 21:27
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dreamwidth person just mad that cohost pays its devs instead of making them work for free as "volunteers"
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Nov 5, 2022 21:27
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the path to hell is paid with working for exposure
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Nov 5, 2022 21:29
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eggbug keeps sending me pictures of a gun and telling me I have to support my Content help
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you wouldn't egg a bug
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Nov 5, 2022 21:37
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my intellectual property
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bugpulled
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oh my god i owe so much in back eggbug taxes
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Nov 5, 2022 21:46
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I like the posts that make him a lil cursor 
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i still dont know if the g in eggbug is a hard or soft g 
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Slurps Mad Rips posted:i still dont know if the g in eggbug is a hard or soft g 
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did i miss booloo
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