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CaptainSarcastic posted:And dual-booting is superior to VMs. And two computers is superior to dual-booting. 
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Comatoast posted:I promptly gave up on WSL when none of the systemd commands worked. A vm is superior in every way. This is apparently something fixed in the latest updates. Might be W11-unique yet again though. 
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Oct 29, 2022 21:54
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xzzy posted:And two computers is superior to dual-booting. And two dual-booting computers are superior to one.
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Oct 29, 2022 22:43
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Isn't that a quad boot because in that event you have four computing combinations available.
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Oct 29, 2022 22:44
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At one point I was running a triple-boot with Windows, Linux, and BSD. 
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Oct 29, 2022 22:47
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On of these days I will be brave enough to try maining Debian Hurd on a desktop.
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Oct 29, 2022 23:27
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CaptainSarcastic posted:At one point I was running a triple-boot with Windows, Linux, and BSD. I did once manage to stuff Windows (98? 2000?), FreeBSD, some linux, QNX and BeOS on one machine. Borked the partition table trying to install Solaris 8, IIRC.
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Oct 30, 2022 02:47
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I feel like at some point you just have a bunch of drives and a usb stick with grub on it
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Oct 30, 2022 17:48
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Ventoy and just live your life with persistence layers from live systems.
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Oct 30, 2022 18:01
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Well, upon doing more research, it looks like it's either dual boot or Linux only. Very sad that I can't passthrough my GPU to the VM and still have the base OS not have a fit. I'll try the dual boot since I'll have two NVMes but if it's a hassle as some say then I'm ditching Windows entirely.
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Oct 31, 2022 02:57
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For what it's worth, I finally got around to building my secondary desktop last night and set it up as a dual-boot like usual. The only hiccup was that the built-in wireless on the new motherboard didn't work in OpenSUSE 15.4, which I determined was because it uses an older kernel. Reinstalled using Tumbleweed and everything worked fine. If you're doing a fresh install of each just be aware you want to install Windows first, then install Linux completely on the second drive. You can then set that drive to be first in the boot order and set GRUB to default to one or the other. There were issues with Windows updates a couple years ago where it would freak out if it wasn't the primary boot drive, but I haven't seen that happen in a while. Apologies if this is redundant advice, but being careful in the initial setup can save a lot of headaches down the road. Hell, back in the day I used to physically unplug the drives to make sure things were only going where I wanted them to.
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Oct 31, 2022 06:40
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Windows sometimes gets annoyed and requires the bitlocker recovery key when a linux update changes anything on a shared UEFI boot partition - the easiest workaround is to give them their own UEFI partitions, one per drive. Or disable bitlocker, I guess.
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Oct 31, 2022 12:10
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Computer viking posted:Windows sometimes gets annoyed and requires the bitlocker recovery key when a linux update changes anything on a shared UEFI boot partition - the easiest workaround is to give them their own UEFI partitions, one per drive. Or disable bitlocker, I guess. Disabling Bitlocker solved all my pre-WSL boot issues in one swipe.
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Oct 31, 2022 13:34
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Hell, back in the day I used to physically unplug the drives to make sure things were only going where I wanted them to. I did this when I first installed Garuda as it was doing some funky things with my other two attached drives at the time. I'll assume that Manjaro does the same and only have the one drive I want it on connected.
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Twerk from Home posted:I am a masochist who is posting this from a brand new SFF build with a smaller than stock cooler, and I'm wanting to monitor temperatures as I dial in power / fan curves. For GNOME I like Vitals. Not an overlay but you can pin whatever sensors to the top bar and have the rest in the pull down menu https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1460/vitals/
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So I have a data storage partition (named data). For many years on windows I used basic ntfs mirroring for redundancy. When I moved to Linux I moved all that data over to a btrfs volume. I've successfully figured out snapshots and backups with btrfs send | btrfs receive, all has been good. Since I'm now finishing up the "I'm not going back to windows" cleanup and storage removal, I have the space to mirror my data again. I did that following the docs, and I'm pretty sure that all worked fine: code:Uhh, what? Is this a problem? "Data1" and "Data2" are from the 2 different devs, so if something happens to write to one of them I worry that will gently caress up the mirror. Or are these fake, and any writes will be properly interpreted by the btrfs system? (also how can I make it not do that)
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Klyith posted:So I have a data storage partition (named data). For many years on windows I used basic ntfs mirroring for redundancy. When I moved to Linux I moved all that data over to a btrfs volume. I've successfully figured out snapshots and backups with btrfs send | btrfs receive, all has been good. take a look at subvolumes btrfs does some crazy poo poo
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RFC2324 posted:take a look at subvolumes code:RFC2324 posted:btrfs does some crazy poo poo Yeah, figuring out the hows & whys has been a trip. Good wiki though, so I've been r'ing the fm. This is the first thing I haven't found a quick answer to. I actually think it's really cool though! I tried converting my / over to btrfs from ext4 and that didn't go as well -- though not because btrfs, and rolling back to ext was instant.
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Nov 5, 2022 22:22
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My weird-rear end un-diagnose-able panics that kept happening with Xen and other VM stuff finally went away when I upgraded to kernel 6.x! If anybody else is having problems with Ryzen 2000 series & VMs, give that a shot I guess. And when I shut down, my machine actually shuts down instead of rebooting! Holy cow, it's a miracle.
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got a freshly built beast of a machine running Arch, and I just added a second 1TB nvme drive. what's the best way to fully encrypt that drive so it chain loads/ unlocks with the same password I use to decrypt the primary drive at boot? I'm guessing using a key file somewhere also, when I shutdown I get a message "stop job for Simple Desktop Display Manager still running" and it takes 90secs to time out and finally shutdown I found this bug report, which says the problem should have been fixed in plasma 5.24, and I have 5.26 Are there systemd tweaks I could use to fix this? maybe changing the timeout or something? I guess I could try something other than sddm
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Nov 8, 2022 18:26
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Wow, sddm is still alive? I thought everyone used lightdm now. Be pro and use kdm
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Nov 8, 2022 18:28
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isaboo posted:also, when I shutdown I get a message "stop job for Simple Desktop Display Manager still running" and it takes 90secs to time out and finally shutdown Yep. create new file /etc/systemd/system.conf.d/99-user.conf code:I have the same SDDM issue occasionally, and from general googling it's a) harmless and b) using lightDM something else with KDE is even more of a pain. For me it only happens once in a while, I think related to my display disconnect/reconnect issues.
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Nov 8, 2022 18:51
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RFC2324 posted:Wow, sddm is still alive? I thought everyone used lightdm now. quote:KDE display manager (KDM) was a display manager (a graphical login program) developed by KDE for the windowing systems X11. sddm is fine, i have no reason to move to lightdm on my machine. It is still updated, it works, why bother? edit: and oh, I don't have any issues with sddm, except when updating fedora versions and it points to a non-existent theme, and the entire screen is white. But can log-in and fix it. Volguus fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Nov 8, 2022 |
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Volguus posted:(emphasis mine) it was a shitpost. have you not noticed I have a pattern of hilariously outdated or horribly bad suggestions mixed in with actually knowing a occasional fact? I figured suggesting gdm as an alternate was just too obvious, but I guess I shoulda gone with it
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RFC2324 posted:have you not noticed I have a pattern of ... no. for forums users i have the memory span of a goldfish. edit: actually ... in general i have the memory span of a goldfish. if my wife doesn't write down the grocery list, by the time i get there i completely forgot what i have to buy. unless it's a thing that I need. Volguus fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 8, 2022 |
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Nov 8, 2022 19:59
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fair. we are shockingly bad at this poo poo as a group
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Klyith posted:So I have a data storage partition (named data). For many years on windows I used basic ntfs mirroring for redundancy. When I moved to Linux I moved all that data over to a btrfs volume. I've successfully figured out snapshots and backups with btrfs send | btrfs receive, all has been good. Unrelated, but as I'm not that familiar with RAID, isn't a RAID1 (assuming thats how you're mirroring) gonna be as slow as your slowest drive? Arent you tanking your nvme drives performance? Vvvv amazing
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Ugh, every few (five?) years enough dust collects in floppy drive that Linux thinks there's actually a disk in there and tries to read from it whenever md/lv/whatever tries to scan all block devices. Of course, those read operations timeout, but the timeout is so long that the system effectively freezes and becomes useless in the interim. Finally today I disconnected my floppy drive. No, I can't remember the last time I used it. Not since 2010 at least.
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Volguus posted:no. for forums users i have the memory span of a goldfish. RFC2324 posted:fair. we are shockingly bad at this poo poo as a group I'm generally pretty good at it, but can still get thrown off when people change their avatars. If they actually change their handle then I struggle way worse.
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Mr. Crow posted:Unrelated, but as I'm not that familiar with RAID, isn't a RAID1 (assuming thats how you're mirroring) gonna be as slow as your slowest drive? Arent you tanking your nvme drives performance? Yep. Unless one has some fancy controller that writes quickly to the fast drive then duplicates the missing data to the other drive as time permits. But I doubt such a thing exists.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Ugh, every few (five?) years enough dust collects in floppy drive that Linux thinks there's actually a disk in there and tries to read from it whenever md/lv/whatever tries to scan all block devices. Of course, those read operations timeout, but the timeout is so long that the system effectively freezes and becomes useless in the interim. I disconnected (didn't connect) the floppy back before 2010 sometime. By 2015 I finally removed it from the case since I found the cover. I have this case since 2009 or so, still going strong through upgrades.
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We've seen a handful of servers at work where the fd0 module starts spewing errors.. on systems that have never had a floppy drive installed. We started blacklisting the module because it's dead tech and the errors were annoying. But it feels like a software bug, something in the latest kernels is tickling it and generating noise.
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Mr. Crow posted:Unrelated, but as I'm not that familiar with RAID, isn't a RAID1 (assuming thats how you're mirroring) gonna be as slow as your slowest drive? Arent you tanking your nvme drives performance? In many traditional filesystems or hardware raids, a raid1 mirror set is fast for reads because the system will read from both drives at once. Often it's nearly as fast as a raid0 stripe set. Then for writes it is, as you say, only as fast as the fastest drive. So for read-heavy use case it can actually be a good choice assuming the drive space isn't a problem. For btrfs, I have no idea if that holds true. Btrfs is doing checksumming and stuff, so I dunno if it does split reads like NTFS and other raid systems. Would that mess with verifying the checksum? No clue! BSD could probably speak to the performance results of zfs in similar situations. In this specific case, I give zero fucks either way. The nvme drive is very slow for nvme, and sda1 is a 2tb ssd that maxes sata. My data volume has no particular speed requirements. It's mirrored to be the 1st level of protection from hardware failure, because my backups are not continuous.
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RFC2324 posted:Wow, sddm is still alive? I thought everyone used lightdm now. Text tty and startx for life
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cum jabbar posted:Text tty and startx for life what is this, 1999?
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Volguus posted:what is this, 1999? Still works fine, and not having X (or wayland) start automatically is nice if you're trying to get the drivers for your not entirely supported card to work.
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Nov 9, 2022 01:06
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Just logging in and typing "sway" (previously "startx") gets me going so fast I never saw a reason to install a DM, but if my distro came with one I'd be fine with that too, it's not really where I spend my computer time.
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Volguus posted:what is this, 1999? DMs have caused me a few problems over the years while solving none. I just don't see the point
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Volguus posted:what is this, 1999?
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Keito posted:Just logging in and typing "sway" (previously "startx") gets me going so fast I never saw a reason to install a DM, but if my distro came with one I'd be fine with that too, it's not really where I spend my computer time. until someone presented with a password prompt just hits ctrl+alt+f1 and runs readmail -realfast /*
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