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Is any of that in the text in the MCU?
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live with fruit posted:Is any of that in the text in the MCU? But they've just concentrated on Bruce not having control of the raging monster bit and not much of the psych aspect
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Nov 6, 2022 18:05
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MCU has a pretty blurry origin story of Bruce but we do know he rampaged and hurt a lot of people when he first turned and the subsequent years, has lost people very close to him, has been on the run and in conflict with the military or his super hero friends, spent years trapped in a mental prison on an alien planet as a slave barbarian, and crippled himself saving the universe. He's clearly been through poo poo that helps explain why he's not the most emotionally stable dude.
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Nov 6, 2022 20:55
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Is Incredible Hulk not canon now?
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Nov 6, 2022 20:56
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I’ve always thought it was at least loosely canon. Blonsky seems to confirm that. But if you wanna be pedantic and hyper critical I guess it’s not super clear. And technically I don’t think it was considered part of Phase 1 but obviously that has much to do with studio rights as creative decisions.
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Nov 6, 2022 21:10
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Marvel avoided directly referencing it for a while, but since they brought back Ross back in Civil War, What If recreated scenes from it (with Ruffalo playing Banner) and now Blonsky's returned, there's no reason to think it's not canon.
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Nov 6, 2022 21:16
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IH is absolutely canon The stuff that they took from the Ang Lee Hulk is another story.
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Nov 6, 2022 21:21
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They even made a "I was a completely different person" joke about it in She-Hulk.
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FlamingLiberal posted:IH is absolutely canon Whether it's because of the PITA that Eddie Norton proved to be on set or the meh critical/commercial reception, who knows.
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Nov 6, 2022 22:19
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IH has been referenced several times, with Leader coming back that's three characters brought over from it, and Stark has a cameo. I don't know why anyone would think it's out of continuity
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Nov 6, 2022 22:21
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https://cultfaction.com/2020/06/11/preview-marvel-studios-the-infinity-saga-collectors-edition-complete-box-set-uhd-bluray/ Incredible Hulk is in the Infinity Saga collector's set. I'd say that's enough to consider the movie itself canon.
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Nov 6, 2022 22:24
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Incredible Hulk is absolutely continuity. We now have three characters back in the MCU. The events of the movie have been referenced multiple times. And even direct parts of it were recreated in What If as referenced above. Hell the move is included in the official MCU Infinity Saga box set. I'm not sure why anyone would think it's not canon.
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Nov 6, 2022 22:26
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People just seem to assume anything that doesn’t directly connect must be out of continuity. Like the Netflix shows or Agents of SHIELD haven’t had any clear contradictions or retcons but people are insistent that they’re not canon. When really they’re just there and they could or could not be. But they were at least intended to be when they were made. I’ve already seen some people hand wringing over how She Hulk fits into canon. People are gonna lose their minds if she shows up in an Avengers movie or Daredevil or something.
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Nov 6, 2022 22:32
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the mcu being entirely fake and controlled by a robot named Kevin is canon i feel like Loki in particular would have a field day over this knowledge Kamala too
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Nov 6, 2022 22:36
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STAC Goat posted:People just seem to assume anything that doesn’t directly connect must be out of continuity. Like the Netflix shows or Agents of SHIELD haven’t had any clear contradictions or retcons but people are insistent that they’re not canon. When really they’re just there and they could or could not be. But they were at least intended to be when they were made. AoS isn't canon.
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Nov 6, 2022 22:36
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Canon is a fake idea for bible nerds, y'all are being goofy
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Nov 6, 2022 23:03
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Yes. My point is this is a dumb conversation and always is. The stuff that is canon is the stuff they use. Chill. Repeat to yourself it’s just a show. Blah blah blah.
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SlimGoodbody posted:Canon is a fake idea for bible nerds, y'all are being goofy in my head-cannon you are a poo-head
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Nov 7, 2022 00:47
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I'm pretty sure RDJ Tony Stark even appears in Incredible Hulk. They replaced the actor but it is still cannon.
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Madkal posted:I'm pretty sure RDJ Tony Stark even appears in Incredible Hulk. They replaced the actor but it is still cannon. They did do a soft-retcon of that scene in a Marvel One-Shot. I believe that One Shot was also the first appearance of Sitwell.
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Nov 7, 2022 01:52
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If it happened in a movie it’s canon until they retcon it in a future movie.
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Nov 7, 2022 02:11
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That's honestly the best way to break it down, it's how you deal with stuff like the infinity gauntlet being in Thor 1 or "fine, I'll do it myself" The MCU isn't afraid to get real comic booky and that includes retcons or partial continuity
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Nov 7, 2022 02:18
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I would hope that in a future SheHulk or Deadpool project they set up a retcon joke in a previous MCU film. And they are able to get that previous cast to reshoot the entire scene with major changes. Like an Age of Ultron flashback and that's the 45 second sequence that they convince Evans to be Cap again.
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Rhyno posted:I would hope that in a future SheHulk or Deadpool project they set up a retcon joke in a previous MCU film. And they are able to get that previous cast to reshoot the entire scene with major changes. Quicksilver didn't die. Don't you remember? He's been in a coma this whole time!
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Nov 7, 2022 07:05
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Or they put Ant-man in the Battle of New York, so the next time Hawkeye's bitching about Rogers: The Musical being inaccurate, they just go to YouTube and show some clips of the fight. "Clint, you dumbass." "Yeah, don't you remember when Scott crawled up the Chitauri leader's rear end and exploded him?" "Jesus, why'd Widow have to be the one to die?" "Betcha he shot her in the back with one of his stupid arrows and dumped her body over the cliff." What, too dark?
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Admiralty Flag posted:Or they put Ant-man in the Battle of New York, so the next time Hawkeye's bitching about Rogers: The Musical being inaccurate, they just go to YouTube and show some clips of the fight. A little yes
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1589697454576111616 This sounds cool to me.
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Dang, alright. Sounds good
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Wakanda Forever review embargo lifts in a few hours. Samples from the reviews: quote:The entire ensemble is phenomenal, but Tenoch Huerta bursts onto the scene with a brilliant, complex turn as Namor. quote:[The effects are] leaps and bounds better than the first Black Panther. Excellent overall. quote:Outstanding. It handles loss, grief, and revenge with maturity and seriousness rarely seen in the MCU. quote:You feel the length but it’s fun. quote:Everyone ups their game from the first film with standout performances from Letitia Wright, Angela Bassett, and Tenoch Huerta. quote:Black Panther: Wakanda Forever prioritizes sentiment over spectacle and for the most part it’s a transporting and engrossing triumph. quote:It also often feels like a mix-and-match of prior (frankly inferior) Marvel movies. quote:Spends way too much time coping with its non-fiction tragedy. The first hour of the film largely deals with the real life death of star Chadwick Boseman. Adding to this long set up are a few characters that fit well enough into the film, but are mostly there setting up future MCU projects. quote:Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is a beautiful tribute to Chadwick Boseman. quote:Ryan Coogler ups his game on the action. quote:The story is hugely ambitious & thematically rewarding with gut-wrenching twists and turns throughout.
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Jamesman posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1589697454576111616 With great power comes no future
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Open Marriage Night posted:With great power comes no future I am an anarchist I am the arachnid
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Wakanda Forever review embargo lifts in a few hours. Sounds like the first hour is a great tribute and then the actual plot that kicks in is an overstuffed “see you next series/movie” mess aside from some good Namor bits. Basically what everyone expected.
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lmfao how was that your takeaway from those soundbites?
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Barry Convex posted:these are Twitter reactions from about two weeks ago, not "reviews"; the former tend to skew more positive than the latter. but anyway, the embargo on actual reviews lifts at noon Eastern on November 8 (a bit under 14 hours from now)
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BrianWilly posted:lmfao how was that your takeaway from those soundbites? Every single advance review for Marvel/DC/whatever franchise stuff nowadays is always a bit hyperbolic with praise. The reviews in these advance waves that sound more measured and tempered are almost always closer to the eventual general consensus of the films. I mean the movie lost its original lead suddenly and had to be delayed and completely rewritten, plus it has to establish a new face for this subfranchise (even if it’s a character we’ve already met), wrestle with the real-world loss of Boseman, and introduce a new supporting character that we already know will have a show of their own in the future. “The Boseman tribute is well done, but there’s a little too much going on in the rest of the movie” sounds like a pretty reasonable expectation.
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I generally don't give too much stock to advance screenings either but the Knives Out guy liked it and even though I thought Last Jedi was a bit shaky I still trust his opinion to some degree
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Every single advance review for Marvel/DC/whatever franchise stuff nowadays is always a bit hyperbolic with praise. The reviews in these advance waves that sound more measured and tempered are almost always closer to the eventual general consensus of the films.
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When is black panther coming out?
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