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FreeRangeHexagon posted:It's tempting to say that the democrats are blowing it deliberately so they can have an easier time fundraising without having any expectations that they actually accomplish anything. But I think this is a more straightforward tale of hubris. They can't admit that material conditions are getting worse for people, because that would damage their egos by getting them to admit that getting a democrat into the white house didn't deliver the sudden transformation of America they convinced themselves it would during the Trump presidency. So they ignore reality and tell everyone who tries to reason with them that they shouldn't believe their own lying eyes. It's frustrating because as usual anyone who is trying to warn them of the mistake they are making is going to be accused of being a secret GOP operative or something. When in reality they're trying to get them to correct course before they blow what should have been an easy win given how unlikeable the GOP have managed to be even in opposition. this is a correct analysis except i don't want the democrat party to change course, i want it to die like a dog
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:I just went over all the posts I made in this thread. And the thing I've been saying since May is "all the dems have to do in order to win is pretend to give a poo poo about the problems voters face, they don't even need to propose any policy, they just need to feign a bit of empathy." And they just... haven't done that. It should be so easy. I don't understand why democratic partisans put up with this rank incompetence. I mean, for the people in leadership positions they can afford to lose and then just fundraise, or get cushy lobbying gigs after they lose their seats. But the ordinary voters are so pathetic for not demanding a purge of all the losers who keep pissing away winnable elections. When Republicans fail the base demands blood, so they actually purge people who don't please the base. But democrats seem to think blind loyalty to party leadership is a virtue. to a certain degree its blind loyalty and other part that alot of liberals are also racist smug turds
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:I just went over all the posts I made in this thread. And the thing I've been saying since May is "all the dems have to do in order to win is pretend to give a poo poo about the problems voters face, they don't even need to propose any policy, they just need to feign a bit of empathy." And they just... haven't done that. It should be so easy. I don't understand why democratic partisans put up with this rank incompetence. I mean, for the people in leadership positions they can afford to lose and then just fundraise, or get cushy lobbying gigs after they lose their seats. But the ordinary voters are so pathetic for not demanding a purge of all the losers who keep pissing away winnable elections. When Republicans fail the base demands blood, so they actually purge people who don't please the base. But democrats seem to think blind loyalty to party leadership is a virtue. Democrats/liberals dont give a poo poo about material conditions. All they care about is stocking oppressive capitalist monopolies/institutions like corporations, banks, private prisons, intel agencies, and the military with minorities and women. They’ve never given a poo poo about providing basic sustenance necessities like healthcare, public housing, and a living wage to the population and never will
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It’s amazing how diabolical it is. In effect democrats/liberals’ whole thing is branding/dismissing opposition to capitalism and the free market as bigotry, racism, and phobic. It’s why chris hedges calls democrats the more effective evil
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FistEnergy posted:urge to read D&D....rising.... Just let it ferment a bit longer, this evening should produce a fine vintage.
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Axetrain posted:Just let it ferment a bit longer, this evening should produce a fine vintage. spoiler alert, current phrase of denial is "it's too early to know, just stop posting bad news and wait" mixed with some "election results are unknowable until they happen" stuff
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FistEnergy posted:urge to read D&D....rising.... they're the same
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MLSM posted:Democrats/liberals dont give a poo poo about material conditions. All they care about is stocking oppressive capitalist monopolies/institutions like corporations, banks, private prisons, intel agencies, and the military with minorities and women. They’ve never given a poo poo about providing basic sustenance necessities like healthcare, public housing, and a living wage to the population and never will but they don't have to give a poo poo, they just have to pretend to, it should be so easy... my big theory on liberals is that they are, by and large, overgrown teachers pets who are eternally seeking out some sort of authority figure to please, they can't rebel against the party the way the GOP base routinely does (people forget that Trump started out as a rebellion against the old guard Republican leadership) because that would be naughty. And they desperately need to be told that they are good little boys and girls who follow all the rules and are better at doing homework than anyone else.
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hell yea, its the plebes fault they've once again failed the perfect leadership team of biden, pelosi, and schumer
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:I just went over all the posts I made in this thread. And the thing I've been saying since May is "all the dems have to do in order to win is pretend to give a poo poo about the problems voters face, they don't even need to propose any policy, they just need to feign a bit of empathy." Mr. Clinton, your services are no longer needed
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MLSM posted:All they care about is stocking oppressive capitalist monopolies/institutions like corporations, banks, private prisons, intel agencies, and the military with minorities and women. They don't even really care about that, but it is their brand.
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Cerebral Bore posted:this is a correct analysis except i don't want the democrat party to change course, i want it to die like a dog it's really an either/or thing for me, I want them to either change or to die off. What I hate is that they probably keep being the same mediocre losers forever. No matter how bad conditions get.
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:it's really an either/or thing for me, I want them to either change or to die off. What I hate is that they probably keep being the same mediocre losers forever. No matter how bad conditions get. Well not changing means they will die off, that's what dying off looks like, just a completely irrelevant party of losers that leaves a massive vacuum of power for the right to scoop up.
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LastInLine posted:Mr. Clinton, your services are no longer needed given how often I hear "we just need to be moderate like Bill Clinton" whenever I try to reason with democrats it's amazing how little they actually understand of what actually made Clinton a successful politician
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In Training posted:Well not changing means they will die off, that's what dying off looks like, just a completely irrelevant party of losers that leaves a massive vacuum of power for the right to scoop up. if that happens they'll still exist as a rump party taking up all the space that could go to an actually effective opposition, forever and ever and ever, until this whole experiment collapses
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:given how often I hear "we just need to be moderate like Bill Clinton" whenever I try to reason with democrats it's amazing how little they actually understand of what actually made Clinton a successful politician lol remember in 2016 when he told Hillary she needed to pretend to give a poo poo and she said STFU BILL
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Subvisual Haze posted:https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1590055044430581760 My life for needle! I live or die as needle demands!
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Cerebral Bore posted:this is a correct analysis except i don't want the democrat party to change course, i want it to die like a dog 
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LastInLine posted:lol remember in 2016 when he told Hillary she needed to pretend to give a poo poo and she said STFU BILL just an absolutely amazing parade of unforced errors from her that year, my favourite was the "hot sauce in my bag" thing that stunlocked even the lib radio hosts interviewing her
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"If we broke up the banks would that end racism forever?"
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:just an absolutely amazing parade of unforced errors from her that year, my favourite was the "hot sauce in my bag" thing that stunlocked even the lib radio hosts interviewing her The irony of this one is she documentably likes hot sauce a lot, pre-2016, but everyone instantly assumed it was pandering because she's so loathsome
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