What is the most powerful flying bug? This poll is closed. |
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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
🐦 | 67 | 16.58% | |
dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
🦟 | 14 | 3.47% | |
🐝 | 87 | 21.53% | |
Total: | 404 votes |
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Donrf posted:So what? What's in it for us? Even if the cossacks of Jesul Trumpenko win?
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 14:53 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 22:12 |
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https://twitter.com/UN_Agency/status/1590322948832866304 https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1590301499422572547
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 14:56 |
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I'm sure some savvy leadership could tilt the Speaker vote, right...
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 14:57 |
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Ukrainian NAFTA sounds like the worst legislation in the world
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 14:57 |
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1590089376138416128?s=20&t=xGwBuGCwN1b8PK1DPg_m2A https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1590074448794640384?s=20&t=xGwBuGCwN1b8PK1DPg_m2A
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 14:57 |
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Russians are dooming about Kherson, talking about a possible retreat https://twitter.com/sashakots/status/1590328745079947264 There's going to be announcement by Putin this evening, supposedly regarding Kherson
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 14:59 |
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euphronius posted:Ukrainian NAFTA sounds like the worst legislation in the world Probably, but to put it in english the name is Ukroil.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 15:02 |
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euphronius posted:Ukrainian NAFTA sounds like the worst legislation in the world a giant sucking sound
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 15:03 |
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Oh wait, that word is also in english? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha Ukrnaphtha, ok nobody is remembering that one.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 15:09 |
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Yuzall never used naphtha before? We had some at home, sometimes used for automotive grease stains in clothes, making fire starters from egg cartons and lint and such.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 15:29 |
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samogonka posted:Russians are dooming about Kherson, talking about a possible retreat Yeah, the news is abuzz that the Russians are up and withdrawing. It is certainly a pretty massive defeat if it is so. Also, a lot of seems rumor mill grade information, so yeah we will see. Some channels are trying to hint at least there will be a ceasefire. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 15:54 on Nov 9, 2022 |
# ? Nov 9, 2022 15:36 |
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https://twitter.com/marina0swald/status/1590081626129977345#m
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 15:41 |
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, the news is abuzz that the Russians are up and withdrawing. It is certainly a pretty massive defeat if it is so. Also, a lot of seems rumor mill grade information, so yeah we will see. maybe the rumours about an agreed ceasefire in exchange for kherson are true
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:00 |
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Which side of the Dnieper is Kherson on ?
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:04 |
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right bank, means western side
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:04 |
The democrats didn't get slaughtered and the russians are retreating. Libs stay winning
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:07 |
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samogonka posted:right bank, means western side makes sense then Russia does not ultimately want it
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:09 |
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oh I found a map wow Russia is really losing
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:11 |
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wow I can’t believe my impression from June that Russia will ultimately lose the war or settle for far less was true, what an embarrassing strategic catastrophe for the Russians.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:12 |
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lol posters here love a good stab in the back as much as the russian nationalists.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:15 |
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euphronius posted:oh I found a map considering their initial goals (regime change to prevent Ukraine from joining the eu and nato) and what they’re getting ( a rabid armed to the teeth NATO fortress that lost very few of its major cities and will immediately join the EU and nato) I would absolutely call it a massive strategic defeat for the Russians, Ukraine will be a permanent knife in the side of Russia for decades to come and the Russian military has been thoroughly discredited as any kind of effective fighting force and have been soundly held off by the ukranians who were never broken in any major way. the Russians earned every bit of this defeat though, that’s what happens with incompetent dictators like putin. Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 16:17 on Nov 9, 2022 |
# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:15 |
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I don’t think those where the initial goals. anyway I don’t judge things by comparing them to white board aspirations
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:17 |
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Al-Saqr posted:wow I can’t believe my impression from June that Russia will ultimately lose the war or settle for far less was true, what an embarrassing strategic catastrophe for the Russians. As a casual reader of this thread: you being the only one to change your mind multiple times since January based on new information was one of the best parts of this thread. Mocked like modern Cassandra, but at least willing to change your opinion.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:17 |
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euphronius posted:I don’t think those where the initial goals. I dunno dude I think judging people by how they fared against their openly held goals is legitimate.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:19 |
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Al-Saqr posted:I dunno dude I think judging people by how they fared against their openly held goals is legitimate. maybe for like a local school fund raiser or self improvement program at a local gym but not war have you ever read Sun tzu ??: “no war plan survives first contact with the enemy”
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:22 |
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euphronius posted:maybe for like a local school fund raiser or self improvement program at a local gym but not war pretty sure that's clausewitz edit: it's Moltke
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:24 |
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Surovikin just announced withdrawal from kherson
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:27 |
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Well they didn’t get regime change but also the West didn’t really handicapped the Russian federation as they wanted. So it is a large embarrassment but at the same time I would say the ultimate balance of power didn’t really shift. It just now Russian has a much of unfinished business on its border and has given the US an in to constantly aggravate it. That said, it is saying something that the Russians had weeks to figure out Kherson and they simply couldn’t. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 16:31 on Nov 9, 2022 |
# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:29 |
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Al-Saqr posted:wow I can’t believe my impression from June that Russia will ultimately lose the war or settle for far less was true, what an embarrassing strategic catastrophe for the Russians. Amusing that Ukraine got both Militarized and Nazified, failing on both of the Special Operation's stated objectives.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:29 |
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Wonder why they bothered mobilizing and building all those fortifications. Oh well, best of luck to any russians still left there dodging all the nazi death squads.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:34 |
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if your goal is to kill all the nazis and you only kill some of them , I would not say that is a failure.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:35 |
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i dont care who wins i just want the war to end and people to stop dying.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:36 |
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samogonka posted:Surovikin just announced withdrawal from kherson ok that settles it, I’ve seen enough Russia lost this war in a major major way, they deserve this loss, they went completely against all military logic and treated what was clearly an existentially strategic and important war like a game and got the appropriate whooping for it. they have no one but themselves to blame for this defeat and they’re gonna have to eat poo poo and deal with a permanently hostile ukranian fortress that has utterly and completely out fought and ought smarter the Russians in every way. big congrats to the Ukranians, it’s really hard to not recognize that those guys really gave it their all and we’re never decisively broken on the battlefield, an amazing and historic accomplishment on their end, they are absolutely going to open a new chapter as a country, shame about them being a reactionary right wing country though, but man seeing the Russians really get their just desserts for what they did in Syria is really satisfying. glad the wars end is in sight, in the end the Ukranians wanted it more and acted correctly and accordingly and the Russians ate poo poo, hopefully they negotiate a ceasefire soon now that it’s clear russia has no path to winning the war in any way.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:36 |
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hopefully that means a ceasefire is in sight
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:37 |
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Lostconfused posted:Wonder why they bothered mobilizing and building all those fortifications. As for mobilizing and hitting infrastructure it is unclear now, either this was a major setback but they still have some type of plan for more operations or there just isn’t much of a strategy to be had. It may be those fortifications weren’t really going to Kherson city itself but to the left (eastern bank) and the reporting was just generally poor/inaccurate. ———— It really depends on if the Russians can continue to the war or if they are truly hapless on the field.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:37 |
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Ukraine can’t survive many more victories
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:38 |
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speng31b posted:hopefully that means a ceasefire is in sight yes, just loving end this nonsense. its all so loving stupid
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:38 |
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this shoigu guy seems to be incredibly bad at running the military
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:39 |
They're going to be "russian" all the way home to moscow!!!
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:39 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 22:12 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:this shoigu guy seems to be incredibly bad at running the military Mr Strelkov it's nice to see you finally join us here.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 16:40 |