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Larryb posted:Is the third island the worst area in the game or do the last two have their own share of bullshit as well? The last island feels like it was made second, its way easier but also more fun. As for the 4th one, its a solid uh.
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Augus posted:oops you stepped on the wrong platform, your fun privileges are now revoked. you are hereby sentenced to mandatory community service in the form of an awkward obstacle course where you can't see poo poo in order to free yourself from 2D hedgehog prison i swear to god island 3 has boost pads set up intentionally like landmines where you're running along and suddenly you step wrong and boom, you're in a chain of 5 of them and perspective locked to a 2d platforming section
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Nov 10, 2022 19:17
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Also I spent like an hour trying to get to the first emerald because I didn't think to try getting to it from the south when it's northish Stupid rear end rail junctions
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Nov 10, 2022 19:18
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Zoig posted:The last island feels like it was made second, its way easier but also more fun. Do you still need to collect Vault Keys to get the emeralds or are you done with that after the third island? Also I know you can’t refight the Titans but what about the final boss? Also can you unlock Super Sonic during regular gameplay after you finish the game or is he exclusively for boss fights? Lastly is there some kind of cutscene viewer you can unlock (I wanted to try out the Japanese voice track as one of my favorite VA’s voices Sage but didn’t want to have to replay the entire game just to see the story again)? Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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Nov 10, 2022 19:30
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Man, I'm not sure how to feel about Parry not requiring timing. I get that tight timing like that mid-combat is an acquired taste, but this game's combat is basically a hack-and-slash already, so lacking on the counterattack mechanic timing feels a touch disappointing? Also, am I weird for thinking the Titans just stop being threatening when you go Super Sonic? I know that's the whole point of Super Sonic, but even on Hard the complete lack of incoming damage just removes all of the urgency, and it wouldn't be the first time that Super Sonic could have Rings knocked out of him. Also also, gently caress the third island. It took me longer than I care to admit to figure out how to reach the White Emerald. All gripes and jank aside, I've been enjoying the game immensely so far. If a future Sonic game takes this formula and improves upon it, it could very well be the best thing Sonic Team has ever done.
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SL the Pyro posted:Man, I'm not sure how to feel about Parry not requiring timing. I get that tight timing like that mid-combat is an acquired taste, but this game's combat is basically a hack-and-slash already, so lacking on the counterattack mechanic timing feels a touch disappointing? They pretty clearly originally intended for it to require timing and pulled it out at the last second for some reason. Maybe people were having too much trouble with some of the titan fights or something.
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Yeah yeah yeah game is good and there are some legitimate critiques but what's most important is that 20 seconds into the first level the physics just stopped at a loop and pressing backwards rockets me 90 degrees off of a cliff to bangin' tunes. That's the Adventure/Heroes style I remember 
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Nov 10, 2022 19:44
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I don’t mind the Parry being easy personally, it comes in handy for boss fights at the very least
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Nov 10, 2022 19:44
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It should require timing with normal Sonic and maybe let it be automatic with Super
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SL the Pyro posted:Man, I'm not sure how to feel about Parry not requiring timing. I get that tight timing like that mid-combat is an acquired taste, but this game's combat is basically a hack-and-slash already, so lacking on the counterattack mechanic timing feels a touch disappointing? I really want to see an after-the-fact dev breakdown because the obviously-late-add hold to parry thing seems like the last domino in what had to be a cascade of decisions and I'd be curious what led to it. I'd put at least some money on it being the titan fights being cinematic but not really integrated into the combat gameplay loop, someone said "making all these fights 100% QTE is bad, we shouldn't do that", then they slapped parries into the fights but didn't have enough time to redo the titans to signpost the parriable attacks properly. Which would also explain why the second island's titan has a 3rd phase QTE that OHKOs you back to the very start of the fight and is also a type of QTE that isn't used anywhere else required prior (barring fishing, sort of) so get hosed if you weren't expecting it and think you need to spam like the prior titan's QTEs (which, coincidentally, makes the white ring fail to ever pop out). Larryb posted:I don’t mind the Parry being easy personally, it comes in handy for boss fights at the very least I'm glad I got it on PC because playing it with timed parries would be fun if and only if I can put parry on one button instead of a combo button press, and I'm sure there'll be a mod that does both eventually
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Larryb posted:Do you still need to collect Vault Keys to get the emeralds or are you done with that after the third island? Also I know you can’t refight the Titans but what about the final boss? Yes you still need keys, and the rest is all no as far as i can tell I honestly might replay the game because its actually pretty fun overall? I beelined to the end to avoid being spoiled so now I kinda want to take my time with it. Would like to go for 100% but what that means seems a little nebulous.
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Nov 10, 2022 19:50
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There's some annoyances that crop up from time to time, but Frontiers rules
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Zoig posted:
So can you not even fight the last boss again? That’s weird (also that makes this the first Sonic game not to have some kind of Theater Mode since the Adventure series). Is there anything to do in the postgame besides Arcade Mode then?
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Nov 10, 2022 19:53
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Yeah this game feels like it’s scope was like 60% too big for the budget (which seems meager as gently caress like c’mon sega) but gently caress it it’s fun. It’s real fun. And it’s not like there’s another giant open world game out there where you run around at 500 mph.
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Nov 10, 2022 19:55
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Zoig posted:
There are Steam achievements for level 100 in all stats so all I can say is "thank god for fishing", I'd be a lot saltier about how easily-missed the kocos are otherwise I was initially more worried about missing things when it looked like random mobs were dropping upgrade seeds and vault keys but they really went all in with the "do whatever the hell you want to finish this, we don't give a gently caress" aspect
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Nov 10, 2022 19:55
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I will not be getting rings or speed up to 100 as that is 100 slow button prompts on top of the gathering of kokos. im going for 100% map completion, no more.
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Evil Eagle posted:The third island is good. Farewell Yeah it might be my fav of them tbh
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Modders have been tinkering with the game. Interestingly, momentum physics do exist but due to a combination of Sonic accelerating so quickly, Sonic having a low top speed cap and the momentum values being kept rather low means you barely notice them. By making Sonic accelerate slower, have faster top speed and upping the momentum values you can apparently accurately recreate Genesis style physics but in 3D. https://twitter.com/ShowinGrowin/status/1590702100983721987
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Nov 10, 2022 21:39
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Larryb posted:So can you not even fight the last boss again? That’s weird (also that makes this the first Sonic game not to have some kind of Theater Mode since the Adventure series). Is there anything to do in the postgame besides Arcade Mode then?
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Nov 10, 2022 21:41
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Doc Melonhead posted:you have to set the game's difficulty to hard before you set foot on the final Island; only then you can properly fight THE END after you defeat Supreme Oh I know that, I was just asking if the game let you fight Supreme/The End again after loading a clear game save. Also does it have to be immediately before starting the island? You can’t just switch it over to Hard right before you fight Supreme? Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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How long does the infinite boost buff last? It seems to go on forever, not sure if it's tied to anything or just got a really long time limit.
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It's until you get hit.
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Well that's the platinum done, in.. 19h20m Hot tip for the Phantom Rush 50 times one - find a spring guy in Ares and just Sonic Boom him repeatedly instead of actually fighting it, nothing else (except Sumo) lived long enough to get PR going
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modders already fixed the cyberspace physics lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLwhDQejhM
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I appear to be going around in circles, how do I get across the gap to the other side of the third island (the one the red emerald is on)?
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111 A ranks, 137 emblems! All I've got left for Knuckles is Death Chamber, which just, loving sucks. Hate it. It's literally got maps all over the walls and it's still the worst level to navigate.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Well that's the platinum done, in.. 19h20m You could just farm it off an asura's legs too
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kirbysuperstar posted:even eggman is a pronoun respecter  Eggman has always been an ally
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FireWorksWell posted:You could just farm it off an asura's legs too Oh yeah that'd work
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How many bosses are there? Finished boss 2 and while these are easy as hell the music makes them a treat
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:How many bosses are there? Finished boss 2 and while these are easy as hell the music makes them a treat 6 not counting minibosses, one Titan per island and an additional boss at the end if you’re playing on Hard mode Also seriously, how do I get across the massive gap to the other side of Chaos Island? Every path I find seems to just lead me in a circle Edit: Nevermind, figured it out through dumb luck Larryb fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Larryb posted:6 not counting minibosses, one Titan per island and an additional boss at the end if you’re playing on Hard mode Without spoiling anything, how does this work? Is a true ending locked behind it or any achievements? I’ve been playing on normal.
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man nurse posted:Without spoiling anything, how does this work? Is a true ending locked behind it or any achievements? I’ve been playing on normal. You get a bonus scene during the ending but that’s about it as far as I’m aware. You don’t need to do anything special either, just bump the difficulty up to Hard before you take on the last Titan (or right when you arrive on the last island, I forget which) Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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I had to buy keys from big on island 3 to get the blue emerald to show up as I can't find any levels. Now it's across this big rear end gap and there's these lovely birds shooting lasers at me that I can't target or attack what the gently caress is happening
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I had to buy keys from big on island 3 to get the blue emerald to show up as I can't find any levels. Now it's across this big rear end gap and there's these lovely birds shooting lasers at me that I can't target or attack what the gently caress is happening parry the bird a couple times and you can ride it i don't think it's intended to get across some of the island 3 gaps but all of the bits that are far apart usually have Exactly 1 way to get from one side to the other and I couldn't always be assed to try and run around looking to see if the obvious route would suddenly pop in
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man nurse posted:Without spoiling anything, how does this work? Is a true ending locked behind it or any achievements? I’ve been playing on normal. I just beat the game on hard then went back and beat the final boss on normal because there's a different credits song for some reason. Normal just skips the final final boss entirely and doesn't tell you its there, the ending is the exact same
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Evil Eagle posted:I just beat the game on hard then went back and beat the final boss on normal because there's a different credits song for some reason. Normal just skips the final final boss entirely and doesn't tell you its there, the ending is the exact same Really? I heard there was also an extra scene either after or during the credits on Hard (or is the scene at the very end where Eggman is shown reactivating Sage present on all difficulties?). Good to know you can replay the final boss though Also to specify on how to unlock it, you just need to bump the difficulty up to Hard before you grab the 6th emerald on the last island. Ursine Catastrophe posted:parry the bird a couple times and you can ride it There are conventional ways of getting the emeralds (for example the path to the red one is unlocked via story progression) but the birds do provide a handy shortcut at least Larryb fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Larryb posted:There are conventional ways of getting the emeralds (for example the path to the red one is unlocked via story progression) but the birds do provide a handy shortcut at least yeah the times I did it "wrong" I usually saw the intended route immediately afterwards I do appreciate games that let me play them wrong though
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lol this game is weird as gently caress. its not bad, i had fun but like, deeply strange game. it does the buttrocky sa2 stuff i like but sort of out of nowhere with 0 build up. extremely bizarre finale. i would play a sequel of this game that just had a little extra 'something' but i couldnt tell you what that would be. also fishing is insanely broken once you get to the last island. you could scrounge for 20 stat up items or fish up one thing in 3 seconds and buy even more. never go into a level if you dont want, just fish fish fish. good music the pop-in is busted and really bad considering how you move around the open world its a very bad oversight that for the seed stats you can turn everything in at once but for the ring/speed stats you'd have to painstakingly go through the dialog options 198 times overall i'd say the game rapidly swings between a 4/10 and 8/10 or so depending on the moment. good 30 dollar pickup
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Yeah I'm not having a good time anymore. Got my way to the blue emerald and 'find tails' Marker shows him on a floating round platform and I've activated everything I can think of but can't figure out how to get him and now I'm just frustrated and in a bad mood. Island 3 is what will kill me ever wanting to look at this game again if I force myself through this
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