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ronya posted:The most interesting element of this piece: Christ. Even Singapore gave up on that trope.
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 10:22 |
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Also interesting: https://twitter.com/alexludoboyd/status/1585468548759035905 No translation, plug it into your favourite i fly airplanes posted:Christ. Even Singapore gave up on that trope. on the political side, the collapse of New Order Indonesia and disorder in Malaysia, plus the non-collapse of democratizing South Korea and Taiwan rather put paid to the notion that the region was politically too immature for responsible civil society on the economic side, there was Alwyn Young's charge of TFP stagnation (observe that China, also, has faced TFP stagnation since the GFC; the 2008-2013 stimulus and 2014+ withdrawal of said stimulus have not shifted this) plus the 1997 AFC which, despite rapid recoveries, settled the question of whether the region's governance was so foresighted as to be able to see off all challengers China does not, of course, consider any of these countries as peers any longer ronya fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Oct 27, 2022 |
# ? Oct 27, 2022 13:29 |
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D-Pad posted:That is wild and is absolutely something where coming down like a shitton of bricks is very appropriate. That should not even be remotely tolerated and requires severe consequences beyond "we deported everybody working there" I think your reaction is sensible. Spying is within the unwritten rules of international relations; a system of secret police abroad using threats to effectively abduct and censor people extraterritorialy is not! I’m actually struggling to think of an example of another country that does or even did this kind of thing systemically. Though maybe this isn’t a moral distinction so much as not a lot of countries having the opportunity. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Oct 27, 2022 |
# ? Oct 27, 2022 14:04 |
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It isn't secret, to be clear, and is borne out of earlier programmes to suppress wire fraud, money laundering, and organized crime conducted by expatriate Chinese nationals. Like the CCDI back home, as petty corruption has declined, the political element of its mandate has grown in prominence This essay shows the elegant but remarkably quick slippery slope: quote:Crime Affecting Chinese Citizens Overseas You can see how a global security agenda that started as muscular measures, supported by host governments in organizationally weak countries, slid into itself becoming an illicit enforcement bureaucracy that holds the inability or unwillingness of host governments to cooperate in putting down anti-China actions - be it crime or political dissidence - in open contempt
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 14:51 |
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ronya posted:on the political side, the collapse of New Order Indonesia and disorder in Malaysia, plus the non-collapse of democratizing South Korea and Taiwan rather put paid to the notion that the region was politically too immature for responsible civil society What came to mind for me on "Asian values" was Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore trying to make this as part of his ASEAN leadership. Rightfully criticized to be hollow as a concept, as it was used there to trample over gay rights—which only now has been decriminalized this year. Contrasted of course to Taiwan, which fully legalized same-sex marriage and continues to be the only country in Asia where it's legal. This topic in particular highlights how superfluous the ideology is in regarding that human rights are not universal. i fly airplanes fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Oct 27, 2022 |
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Young's critique was indeed on Singapore specifically To be clear, back in the 1990s, an observer would have pointed out that South Korea had used their first democratic elections to elect Roh Tae-Woo, ally of the previous dictatorship, and then Kim Young-Sam, who had merged his party into Roh's. Kim Dae-Jung, who famously criticized 'Asian Values' in the FP, would not win until 1998 when the AFC was in full swing and its conceptual star was already in decline. Likewise Taiwan's first democratic elections elected Chiang's own VP Lee Teng-Hui, rather than someone from the opposition. With n=2, it seemed apparent that East Asian voters, newly empowered with democratic powers, would (unlike the Eastern European revolutions) elect people and governments pretty darned closely linked with their previous regimes ronya fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Oct 27, 2022 |
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Silver2195 posted:I think your reaction is sensible. Spying is within the unwritten rules of international relations; a system of secret police abroad using threats to effectively abduct and censor people extraterritorialy is not! Isn't this partially because a load of people were scamming Chinese folks and, when China put out a load of red notices to get them caught by interpol they were accused of "abusing the system" and so they've essentially set up a parallel system? https://www.dw.com/en/netherlands-probes-illegal-chinese-police-stations/a-63561509 https://www.pcmag.com/news/chinese-embassy-robocall-scam-rakes-in-40m-from-victims This sort of thing? Am I wrong on this?
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 22:45 |
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the red notice controversy was when HRW began pushing back at high-profile red notices in ~2017: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/09/25/interpol-address-chinas-red-notice-abuses the creation of the "involuntary returns" programmes is earlier, however, dating to ~2014
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 02:57 |
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ronya posted:the red notice controversy was when HRW began pushing back at high-profile red notices in ~2017: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/09/25/interpol-address-chinas-red-notice-abuses Was there any consensus on Meng Hongwei's corruption charges? Like it seems reasonably obvious that these were trumped up because he wasn't marching in line, but was he also actually taking bribes? I imagine the answer is we will never know...
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 04:08 |
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Given the decade in which he rose in the ranks, it would surprise me if he wasn't corrupt, but the fact that he was disappeared despite the obvious embarrassment of disappearing such a high-profile figure suggests power politics instead of a normal arrest It might not be deeper than noting the widespread purge of the public security bureaus (of which Meng Hongwei was merely one head to roll) and replacement with Xi's faction allies: https://www.iris-france.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Asia-Focus-139.pdf
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# ? Oct 29, 2022 08:00 |
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ronya posted:Given the decade in which he rose in the ranks, it would surprise me if he wasn't corrupt, but the fact that he was disappeared despite the obvious embarrassment of disappearing such a high-profile figure suggests power politics instead of a normal arrest Thanks, that's a good article.
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Topically: https://twitter.com/lingli_vienna/status/1586245134550986752
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back to the 1990s https://twitter.com/alexludoboyd/status/1586737890930954240 https://twitter.com/HAOHONG_CFA/status/1586557653345456128 https://twitter.com/michaelxpettis/status/1586715345188184064 https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1586686498988081152 earlier news: https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-tren...mpus-restricted https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-tren...19-restrictions the meta-news is that the variant is managing to punch through the "production bubble" which was initially imposed, hence the rapidly escalating measures, leading to the backlash and exodus, leading to cities now flipping out about having to isolate a wave of migrant returnees quote:A Foxconn employee, who declined to be named, said that the factory was not doing enough to separate the positive cases in a timely manner. “I just want to work. I don’t want to be infected because there will be trouble for me to find a new job in the future,” the person said in a message on Douyin when reached by the Post. the immediate response I expect is reactive measures to indeed tighten isolation, improve conditions, and also oblige cities to accept and isolate returnees -- but none of these will be funded. Foxconn can probably manage. Less solvent factories, however, may just close temporarily. On the Covid policy note, Bloomberg published a succinct coverage of a variety of predictions: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-27/experts-pessimistic-on-china-exiting-covid-zero-any-time-soon. I am still leaning toward this year rather than next, although as the article points out this is not the consensus. My own reasoning stems from intra-Sinosphere opinion from Singapore and Taiwan opening up (on Nov 7 Taiwan will end building entry temperature check requirements, and isolation requirements for close contacts), plus budgetary pressures on the mainland side. ronya fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Oct 30, 2022 |
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This is making the rounds on Twitter: https://twitter.com/YanzhongHuang/status/1586537964267798530 Can't understand that points he's making obviously, but I just think it's funny how the consultancy grift attaches to literally any popular policy consensus
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# ? Oct 31, 2022 10:04 |
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CDT transcript: https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/689067.html quote:
to my knowledge, this is not the policy consensus as represented in e.g. NHC or party statements, which do not invoke the spectre of 长新冠 (long covid) - but Xinhua and such are happy to cover discussion on long covid in the West
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A big flaming stink posted:Can't understand that points he's making obviously, but I just think it's funny how the consultancy grift attaches to literally any popular policy consensus Sorry am not following you. Can you please elaborate?
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droll posted:Sorry am not following you. Can you please elaborate? the corporate TEDtalk style grift, where consultants are paid staggering sums of money to tell powerful people that what those people believe is Cool and Good. It's funny that this grift will attach itself to any policy whatsoever, even a nominally Big Communist Government one. A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Oct 31, 2022 |
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Lol at "the people in government are much smarter and much better than us"
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Shanghai Disney Resort has locked down again trapping visitors in the park due to coronavirus cases detected, similar to the incident during Halloween last year. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/disney-closes-shanghai-resort-oct-31-due-covid-curbs-2022-10-31/ The number of people trapped is lower this time, perhaps due to the reduced capacity curbs announced a couple days earlier. There's quite a thicket of reports trickling out as Chinese cities launch a new wave of lockdowns in response to daily cases rising again (you can look at handy table here, constructed from NHC daily briefings: https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-coronavirus-updates-latest-developments-business-advisory-part-2/#table) https://twitter.com/hancocktom/status/1587059233241108481 Whilst the lockdowns do work in eventually controlling cases, they do have to be harsh and costly (the latter being probably the real problem as to why Xinjiang and Tibet are struggling so hard to stamp out local transmission) ronya fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Oct 31, 2022 |
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In rumours: https://twitter.com/HAOHONG_CFA/status/1587288972761640960 Might be nothing, let's see https://twitter.com/ftchina/status/1587321974820331521 (some products, mainly in healthcare and education - note many countries do ban celebrity endorsements of healthcare products. This is yet another instance of where the rhetoric exceeds the specific regulatory goals, which are actually relatively mundane) https://twitter.com/EliDFriedman/status/1587197311154884608 ronya fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Nov 1, 2022 |
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It hit Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/china-hk-stocks-rebound-sharply-unverified-social-media-posts-over-covid-easing-2022-11-01/ https://twitter.com/hankinbeijing/status/1587380200458792960 https://twitter.com/hankinbeijing/status/1587374617542287360 ronya fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Nov 1, 2022 |
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More in rumours: https://twitter.com/business/status/1587801731148259331
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The Chinese have successfully finished their space station, a genuinely huge milestone for Chinese science and tech:- https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1587409399521239046?s=20&t=hRQ3faFCrRBPy7aP1NY0ZA
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 11:35 |
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With Mengtian docking successfully and completing Tiangong, here is a cool animation video showing all the major features of the lab module. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCU57qQ3Sxg
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 05:18 |
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A video on China's electricity issues (and why they just can't get around to quitting coal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBp_NgrrtPM
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 05:58 |
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Please remember to add more context to the articles and videos that you are posting in this thread. I currently live pretty close to one of the largest coal plants in the world, , and guess what it sucks. If you've got coal and it's cheap, you use it. The air quality conversation in Taiwan for the most part sucks as well, which is related to the North/South political divide. Taipei, partially due to its geography and climate (it rains alot more in winter) has much better air quality than the rest of the Western Plain. The remaining heavy industry is further South, so the worst air quality is found in Kaohsiung. So there is the feeling that Taipei won't push for more air quality controls for the rest of the country because it doesn't matter for them, when it is only relatively good, not actually good. And too many Taiwanese industries blame all the air pollution coming from China and try to block changes to get them to pollute less. Granted, alot of the air pollution is from China, but it ain't all. Things could be made better. When I have time I could try to do a write up for the local elections happening at the end of the month.
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ronya posted:In other news, multipolarity: Xi-Scholz coverage: https://twitter.com/rbsw/status/1588461140509876224 (that remark on sanctions on EU lawmakers refers to Chinese retaliation on Lithuania for Taiwan) https://twitter.com/rbsw/status/1588464153160994816 Li's remarks seem especially conciliatory, I feel - unless the minutes don't touch on them, Li did not recap Xi's allusions to a third party (i.e., the US) influencing EU-China relations whilst Scholz gets all his per diem in. Then again, Scholz is saying these things to the lame duck premier, not the triumphant re-appointed general secretary Meanwhile, in rumoursville: https://twitter.com/niubi/status/1588472372469825539 Zeng had already stuck his neck out already in Mar 1 last year, and then Shanghai promptly melted down, recall: https://twitter.com/yangliuxh/status/1498378205400420352 But: https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1588452270663995395
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Not really news, but I like the art: https://twitter.com/stephendziedzic/status/1588354161464471552
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This seems needlessly provocative https://twitter.com/theChinaDude/status/1588802047142690817 In rumoursville: https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status/1588826001198522368 http://health.people.com.cn/n1/2022/1105/c14739-32559532.html Looks like 清零总方针不动摇 "dynamic clearing strategy will not be altered" is the message, contra rumours earlier this week; we will see market reactions on Monday. The return of 九不准 (nine nos) from June is as much as conceded; how this interacts with the reopening of flights remains to be explained edit: a bigger list, I only picked up on the nine nos: https://twitter.com/ShanghaiMacro/status/1588874239805095937 as the tweeter notes, it remains to be seen whether the bias toward prosecuting officials for outbreaks but not for overreach moves toward the opposite ronya fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 5, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/troysalts/status/1589910323263569921 https://www.reuters.com/world/china/guangzhous-covid-outbreak-deepens-more-lockdowns-loom-china-2022-11-08/ the bulk of cases are in Guangzhou, but not all are, so the graph somewhat overstates the trend line
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Presented without comment: https://twitter.com/violazhouyi/status/1590274958420475905 The Guangzhou situation continues: https://twitter.com/hong_ijin/status/1590199378605903872
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ronya posted:Presented without comment: This might be a bit flippant, but it'd be pretty funny if people who were banned on SA not only had to pay out money to rereg, but also had to submit handwritten letters of contrition explaining what they did wrong. I'm not the only one thinking this, am I?
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To be clear, I find it more amusing than anything else. It's a thoroughly impractical way for a company with such a massive role in Chinese daily life to conduct moderation Not terribly long ago there was a wave of intellectuals who gushed about hansei... all very well for Tencent to render explicit that it expects its users to be petitioners and supplicants rather than customers, but the flip side of the coin is high expectations on Tencent In other news, victory laps: https://twitter.com/HAOHONG_CFA/status/1590825443439308801 https://twitter.com/HAOHONG_CFA/status/1590971452651900928 My own sense is that we first need to see if in this ongoing wave, officials are punished for excessive restrictions rather than for outbreaks. We have heard the 一刀切/层层加码 "no one-size-fits-all" policy swerves before, and whilst this did sharply cut back on gross impacts on supply chains this did not translate much further. I still think this year rather than next, but this alone is suggestive but is not yet it English-language coverage: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-11/these-are-the-20-measures-guiding-china-s-covid-easing-efforts quote:China is relying on 20 key parameters to guide officials on the ground as it eases the contentious Covid Zero policy. ronya fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1590949038186467328 Looks like China's Covid lockdown nightmares may be coming to an end, as some of us predicted would happen after Xi got confirmed for a third term.
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# ? Nov 11, 2022 18:03 |
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A remarkable thread: https://twitter.com/ZichenWanghere/status/1591100106459471872 As before: https://twitter.com/ZichenWanghere/status/1591100116810989569
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# ? Nov 11, 2022 19:58 |
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https://twitter.com/michaelxpettis/status/1592009265509961728 as with Japan, the East Asian 'tiger' states, and the original set of Southeast Asian Newly Industrialized Countries (NICs), the attraction of the export-oriented economy is hard to shake yes it involved wage repression and subordination of foreign policy to the economic need to access target markets (e.g. Japan having to subordinate a desire for lucrative detente with the Soviet bloc to a need to access the US consumer market...), but it also brings full employment! And navigating this was challenging for liberal democratic systems like Japan and West Germany, never mind authoritarian systems that build their credibility, deserved or not, on economic competence. Especially for countries with regions struggling with underinvestment, full employment is a kind of domestic redistributive policy in itself this is a point Pettis neglects in his Trade Wars are Class Wars elaboration - that it is an easy option out of what can be a challenging political question that is inherently generated by the uneven impacts of rapid growth, as demanded by poorer regions and not necessarily elites. China must pursue full employment because less than full employment will necessarily impact Anhui (a markedly poorer province) more than it impacts Shanghai (an overheating one). Overheating is the easiest mechanism that the country has for forcing a rich and powerful - powerful because it is now rich - regions to subsidize less rich regions all that said, Pettis is responding to remarks made by the outgoing officials, not the incoming ones; it remains to be seen if the new generation has a different outlook. Nationalism may trump willingness to cringe before desired target markets. ronya fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Nov 14, 2022 |
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On that note: https://twitter.com/lingli_vienna/status/1592168797091565569
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Politely asking to do imperialism, as a treat. Frankly, saying no seems to be the right answer as a costly war and occupation would make their problems with economic structures worse.
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