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Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

why? i mean isn't this gonna gently caress chinese agriculture?

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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Doktor Avalanche posted:

why? i mean isn't this gonna gently caress chinese agriculture?

those countries collectively won't make a drop in the chinese agro market lol.

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Tankbuster posted:

those countries collectively won't make a drop in the chinese agro market lol.

this most importantly, but also when the state runs the farms they don't immediately get annihilated the moment an import is one fen cheaper

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Probably going to move the big volume grain purchase from US to other countries.

What does LDC stand for?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
least developed country

also the chinese truly are wily, what with exploiting poor countries by giving the massively preferential treatment

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Cerebral Bore posted:

least developed country

also the chinese truly are wily, what with exploiting poor countries by giving the massively preferential treatment

its an immoral shortcut. you’re supposed to get Special and Differential Treatment status from the IMF in exchange for forced economic liberalization, not as some diplomatic gesture without preconditions

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


indigi posted:

explain how your "mutual aid" work is meaningfully different than a church basement charity and then I'll be able to effectively respond to this nonsense

Mutual aid isn't charity, it's reciprocity. You seem mad on the Internet

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

China and El Salvador to Begin Free Trade Talks

China seeks upgrade of massive trade zone with Southeast Asian nations amid US hostility

A lot of trade moves from China recently. The ASEAN one is of particular importance to its manufacturering sector as ties with the US worsen.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Said before, but American and IMF policy is so belligerent, predatory and racist at this point there's not even any real incentive to comply anymore, especially given the CIA's incompetence, so you might as well throw in with China.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
What the hell, there is a China-ASEAN FTA? I thought that's what RCEP is all about? Is this FTA fall inside the RCEP wann diagram or more advanced?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Mutual aid isn't charity, it's reciprocity. You seem mad on the Internet

lol so it's no different. figured

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

stephenthinkpad posted:

What the hell, there is a China-ASEAN FTA? I thought that's what RCEP is all about? Is this FTA fall inside the RCEP wann diagram or more advanced?

There is already a free trade agreement across all ASEAN countries

There is also an ASEAN + China free trade agreement

There are also ASEAN + Japan/Korea and other such similar combinations of ASEAN+1

The RCEP is supposed to effectively (if not literally) supersede all of those and simplify all of the rules into a single agreement

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I loving love consolidated free trade agreements

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

i hate free trade unless it's china, then i love free trade

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://www.reuters.com/business/authorities-turn-seized-home-towers-evergrandes-resort-island-rental-commercial-2022-11-08/

quote:

HONG KONG, Nov 8 (Reuters) - Almost 40 residential buildings of China Evergrande Group's (3333.HK) mega resort project on Hainan island seized by the local government will be completed for rental housing, serviced apartments and commercial activities.

That's pretty cool.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
is a serviced apartment like an Airbnb or an apartment with a super who will fix poo poo for you

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/SStapczynski/status/1591003830271238144

Lol the euros are depriving the Pakistanis of power.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

indigi posted:

is a serviced apartment like an Airbnb or an apartment with a super who will fix poo poo for you

Yeah it's basically what airbnb is, although in this case the local government might be your "landlord".

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan laughing down from heaven.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

AnimeIsTrash posted:

https://twitter.com/SStapczynski/status/1591003830271238144

Lol the euros are depriving the Pakistanis of power.

the purpose of a system is what it does

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012

AnimeIsTrash posted:

https://twitter.com/SStapczynski/status/1591003830271238144

Lol the euros are depriving the Pakistanis of power.

I'm confused. Don't most households use tanks diliverd by suppliers instead of gas lines in Pakistan? Or at least gas line connections were rare?

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

droll posted:

Why do you think labor organizing and mutual aid is worthless?

its worthless in the context of class power. If the point is "harm reduction" and immediate alleviation of suffering then just go do charity.

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

The best move to make as an American leftist is to move to China and then you don't have to worry about it anymore hth

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

SorePotato posted:

The best move to make as an American leftist is to move to China and then you don't have to worry about it anymore hth

lol China doesn’t want a bunch of liberal arts majors

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

SorePotato posted:

The best move to make as an American leftist is to move to China and then you don't have to worry about it anymore hth

China murdered the TEFL industry last year.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

a fatguy baldspot posted:

lol China doesn’t want a bunch of liberal arts majors
does journalism count? i can write articles about the great journey

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1591138206291939329?t=vuqV0q3zn2ZHJNclH8hn_w&s=19

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012

Top City Homo posted:

its worthless in the context of class power. If the point is "harm reduction" and immediate alleviation of suffering then just go do charity.

Labor organizing is not worthless in the context of class power. It pretty specifically empowers the working class. The distinction is, without political direction, this work is not necessarily revolutionary.

Mutual aid in the west is a fake re-branding of charity though; that's basically correct. The idea is mutual exchange of goods and services based on need; thereby coming to rely more on each other than the state. It's much more workable in places and time periods in which capital has not successfully destroyed all pre-existing communities.

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012
Like yes, yellow unionism exists; that's a trite observation. What exactly is your base of power going to be if not the unions? A fundamental reason that the proletariat are a revolutionary class is that they, as a class, hold ultimate power in society through their fundamental role in production. The underlying economic reality of capitalism means that an organized proletariat has power over the bourgeoisie. This is basic Marxism.

For many people, the workplace is the only meaningful communal space left, it is also through production the place where they exercise their power in society. But yes, let's just write off labor organizing entirely because the AFL-CIO is full of shitlibs.

edit: Anyway, syndicalism hasn't had a successful revolution because you need the centralized political structure and revolutionary theory of a vanguard party in order to effectively combat the bourgeois state.

unwantedplatypus has issued a correction as of 07:32 on Nov 12, 2022

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
god kevin's head is round

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

exmarx posted:

god kevin's head is round

He’s always looked like ice cream. His shirt is the cone, his round head is the ball of ice cream and his hair is the bit that has already been licked

Always had weird hands that looked like he was wearing gloves too

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

a fatguy baldspot posted:

lol China doesn’t want a bunch of liberal arts majors

math and physics are liberal arts

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

any sort of pure study (and not vocational training) is a liberal art. chemistry, even computer science

edit: and it has always been part of the fundamental definition, study of the natural sciences

A business degree or nursing degree are not liberal arts degrees. Engineering probably not.

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 08:56 on Nov 12, 2022

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

I’ve read that Marxism majors enjoy respect and high wages in China

Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.
syndicalists ruled italy from 1922 to 1945

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0QrSw_5w0k

Some nice views of Tiangong taken by the departing Tianzhou-4 cargo ship.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Forceholy posted:

China murdered the TEFL industry last year.

owned

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

China doing a Harrison Bergeron to kids with rich parents is incredible. liberals should be shook

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

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Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

eSports Chaebol posted:

China doing a Harrison Bergeron to kids with rich parents is incredible. liberals should be shook

lmao

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