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Alucard posted:I like that he's proposed "what it Paypal on Twitter" because the well's run dry. Even before the current shitshow they were really bad at removing nudes. I had a search column for my local city, just to see what's happening in the area, and graphic nudes would regularly pop up in it with no restrictions. If you care to specifically search for it twitter is already full of hardcore porn of every category. If content moderation is out the window now then much more disturbing material is going to start filtering through.
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Single and LOVING IT posted:I was not aware of this, but can't say I'm surprised. Was any of this relatively common knowledge? NGL the use of 'precision' is a little ominous.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:09
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Big nytimes article this morning, non-paywall link: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/...&smid=share-url $8 from scammers! $10 from employees! All for 44 billion dollars? this musk guys a financial genius!
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Big nytimes article this morning, non-paywall link: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/...&smid=share-url "But he had a condition. Before paying the bonuses, Mr. Musk insisted on a payroll audit to confirm that Twitter’s employees were “real humans.” He voiced concerns that “ghost employees” who should not receive the money lingered in Twitter’s systems." He's literally losing his mind
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Nov 11, 2022 15:12
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Outrail posted:NGL the use of 'precision' is a little ominous. I think all the other words are pretty fuckin ominous too
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Nov 11, 2022 15:12
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Gubbinal Girl posted:"But he had a condition. Before paying the bonuses, Mr. Musk insisted on a payroll audit to confirm that Twitter’s employees were “real humans.” He voiced concerns that “ghost employees” who should not receive the money lingered in Twitter’s systems." Holy poo poo he thinks the employees are bots
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Nov 11, 2022 15:12
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:Even before the current shitshow they were really bad at removing nudes. I had a search column for my local city, just to see what's happening in the area, and graphic nudes would regularly pop up in it with no restrictions. If you care to specifically search for it twitter is already full of hardcore porn of every category. I'm not sure the exact rules/boundaries especially around identity & age verification, but nudity/porn has never been banned on Twitter. Tons of porn sites & stars use it.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:14
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Man @nintendoofus is such a good name
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Nov 11, 2022 15:15
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Data Graham posted:Imagine Musk taking over Twitter because it's chump change for him and immediately deciding that the #1 top priority, even higher than making sure there are enough people employed who know the passwords to the servers, is to cut costs and make it profitable overnight Please note that while Musk will still be fantastically wealthy, this purchase was definitely not "chump change" and is going to cost him a lot more than the $44 billion
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Nov 11, 2022 15:16
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Gubbinal Girl posted:"But he had a condition. Before paying the bonuses, Mr. Musk insisted on a payroll audit to confirm that Twitter’s employees were “real humans.” He voiced concerns that “ghost employees” who should not receive the money lingered in Twitter’s systems." *squints suspiciously at employee during 1-on-1* "Mind taking a look at this for me?" 
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Nov 11, 2022 15:16
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Decon posted:*squints suspiciously at employee during 1-on-1* If only there was some kind of process, some kind of due diligence, that a buyer could perform prior to the sale to prove that the company they were buying wasn't staffed by fake employees. Says a lot about how Musk does business that he instantly believes that Twitter was being bribed for checkmarks and that they were faking employees to embezzle
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Nov 11, 2022 15:18
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John Wick of Dogs posted:There is no such thing as a free lunch Shades of WorldCom, for oldtimers who might still remember what that even was. It was february or march of 2002, during the times of the grisly final contractions of the DotCom Bubble. Ashburn, VA. Dear Leader had already screwed up the company to the tune of what was then a shocking a mount - hundreds of millions of dollars worth of inappropriate loans to cover bad dotcom bets, disguised by cooking the books. Our stock was in the toilet but officially things were "still fine" and Uncle Bernie appeared weekly on TV screens for all-hands meetings, assuring us everything is under control. All the while more and more people were being laid off. But one monday morning we came into office to find all snacks and the free coffee makers had been removed from all the campus pantries. Instead old 1980s style vending machines had been put in. Really old clunkers. Dispensing stale coffee into dixie cups for $0.50 a pop*. They wanted us to come to work with a pocket full of quarters to buy coffee from these loving vending machines. These were the "frugality measures" that should save the company. I put in my two week notice a couple of weeks later. A few weeks after that the company went bankrupt to huge global headlines only eclipsed a little while later that summer when Enron folded. * the dixie cups were dispensed with a probability of around 95%.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:22
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kazil posted:Please note that while Musk will still be fantastically wealthy, this purchase was definitely not "chump change" and is going to cost him a lot more than the $44 billion I mean I guess his actions miiiiiight seem somewhat rational if he's actually planning on funding Twitter's survival out of his own pocket for the foreseeable future But I have to imagine he didn't plan on all the advertisers backing out because he blew up their guarantee of brand safety lmao
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Nov 11, 2022 15:22
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Decon posted:*squints suspiciously at employee during 1-on-1* You’re in a cave swimming along in the tunnel when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a Thai child, it’s swimming toward you. You reach down, you flip the child over on its back. The child lays on its back, stuck in the dark cave, beating its legs trying to free itself but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?
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Nov 11, 2022 15:22
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kazil posted:If only there was some kind of process, some kind of due diligence, that a buyer could perform prior to the sale to prove that the company they were buying wasn't staffed by fake employees. I feel like that kind of process is reserved for people that don't offer meme numbers for their purchases, and then try to back out after signing contracts to complete the purchase. But, what do I know? I'm just a jackass on a dead forum.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:22
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w.r.t. nudes on twitter, before the buyout they floated the idea of becoming an onlyfans competitor and shelved the idea because it's a liability nightmare if they profit from underage or stolen material https://www.theverge.com/23327809/twitter-onlyfans-child-sexual-content-problem-elon-musk dusting off these plans and shipping it regardless of the risks sounds like something musk would do, what's the worst that could happen if they end up selling CSAM
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Nov 11, 2022 15:23
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Steadiman posted:https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1591045749533741056 https://i.imgur.com/lKTqANR.mp4
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Nov 11, 2022 15:26
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Installed that addon to Firefox that tells you if entities are actually verified or whether they just gave $8 to Elon, and had a hearty lol when I saw this: (this is the product manager who famously slept on the floor for Musk so her team could crunch a feature that ended up being delayed, launched and then unlaunched again)
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Nov 11, 2022 15:33
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Can't wait for Elon to start locking employees in
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Nov 11, 2022 15:34
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Oh Esther paid for it Allright.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:38
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Durzel posted:Installed that addon to Firefox that tells you if entities are actually verified or whether they just gave $8 to Elon, and had a hearty lol when I saw this: To be slightly fair to someone that 100% does not deserve it, it's common for someone internal (especially the responsible team(s)) to be given the new feature in prod that's otherwise paid.
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SirPhoebos posted:Can't wait for Elon to start locking employees in blue wedding
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Nov 11, 2022 15:39
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Data Graham posted:Imagine Musk taking over Twitter because it's chump change for him and immediately deciding that the #1 top priority, even higher than making sure there are enough people employed who know the passwords to the servers, is to cut costs and make it profitable overnight
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Gubbinal Girl posted:"But he had a condition. Before paying the bonuses, Mr. Musk insisted on a payroll audit to confirm that Twitter’s employees were “real humans.” He voiced concerns that “ghost employees” who should not receive the money lingered in Twitter’s systems." quote:At times, Mr. Musk was spotted with his 2-year-old son, X Æ A-12, at Twitter’s office as he greeted employees. Wonder if he’s letting his son point at a list of names to decide who gets fired. Might be a better method. quote:Twitter executives also suggested assessing the lists for diversity and inclusion issues so the cuts would not hit people of color disproportionately and to avoid legal trouble. Mr. Musk’s team brushed aside the suggestion, two people said.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:47
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Data Graham posted:But the entire point of being a billionaire private owner with infinite money is that YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT MONEY IN THE SHORT TERM. Profitability is a years-out goal for people building a product with investor money! It should be the LAST thing on YOUR mind. You have all the freedom in the world to throw resources at changing what Twitter is and how it works. You can afford to run an experiment that takes months or years to play out. And the way you do that is by hiring more people, cultivating a better corporate environment, giving workers more perks. Not firing half of them and chaining the rest to their desks as though the most important thing in the world is showing black ink by Friday 8AM or they'll drag you to the Old Bailey Elon didn't do the math ahead of time for exactly how much he'd have to not care about money in the short term. He knows nothing about the advertising space, he didn't get an advertising specialist onto his team / listen to advice from people who knew the field. He didn't think about how all the poo poo he was saying before buying the company was poison to all the current advertisers. Twitter's lucrative userbase for advertising was not the racists and right-winger trolls that Elon was dog-whistling to. A year ago, Twitter owing loans that needed a billion per year to repay would have been very tough. They'd have needed to do some cuts and find more revenue to make it happen, and they've always had trouble finding revenue. But the world's richest man could easily make up the difference. Instead he bought Twitter With No Advertisers, which is a very different situation. Twitter is now deeply underwater. Like, Elon will need to put in his own money just to keep the company going, plus pay the billion per year in loans. That's a lot of loving money. All because he couldn't keep his mouth shut and listen to people who knew the business.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:48
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zedprime posted:Elon is hardly an infinite money haver in this case. He's leveraged up to his elbows to have done this without getting out of Tesla and if he can't reap the payments he's gonna have to keep selling Tesla stock (which he's already started.) He needs something coming out today if he wants to remain half as relevant as he was before the sale. Sounds like it was a great idea to just immediately sever his new company's primary line of revenue. Overleveraged as all hell? Better fire my brand new advertising team from my brand new 80% advertising revenue company. Please tell me I'm cool and smart.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:49
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Klyith posted:Elon didn't do the math ahead of time for exactly how much he'd have to not care about money in the short term. Twitter had advertisers for the year, it was whether or not they'd renew. Elon came in with no experience with either advertising nor social networks and hosed it up completely. All the advertisers wanted was a plan. And he popped on the call with them and hosed everything up. He really has bought into the image he pushed that he's some sort of eccentric genius who can do anything and its steadily becoming obvious he's anything but that.
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repiv posted:w.r.t. nudes on twitter, before the buyout they floated the idea of becoming an onlyfans competitor and shelved the idea because it's a liability nightmare if they profit from underage or stolen material That sounds like a feature and not a bug for Elon
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Nov 11, 2022 15:51
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zedprime posted:Elon is hardly an infinite money haver in this case. He's leveraged up to his elbows to have done this without getting out of Tesla and if he can't reap the payments he's gonna have to keep selling Tesla stock (which he's already started.) He needs something coming out today if he wants to remain half as relevant as he was before the sale. I don't know if Elon's reputation will ever recover from this. I know folks irl who were admiring Elon as a tech & business genius as recently as a couple of weeks ago, and now they're all like "what the gently caress is that idiot doing".
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Nov 11, 2022 15:52
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This is all part of his genius plan to never pay taxes again. Buy a business over price, melt it down and carry the losses over for the rest of your life. Or he has poor impulse control. It's really hard to say which, we don't have a real time measure of what he's thinking unfiltered anywhere in the world.
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Staff salaries too high? Need to make savings! Simply close your eyes and they'll disappear! #Oneweirdtrick
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DaveWoo posted:I don't know if Elon's reputation will ever recover from this. I know folks irl who were admiring Elon as a tech & business genius as recently as a couple of weeks ago, and now they're all like "what the gently caress is that idiot doing". My aforementioned boss still thinks this is all genius and his move into payments (which he predicted like two weeks ago) is checkmate He thinks Twitter should charge brands $1000 for the blue check and government agencies $10,000, and also thinks the checkmark should show the name of whoever is on the credit card He's all in on the "this is to get rid of bots" angle (I don't think he understands advertising either, or how little money they are going to get from the subscriptions) e: oh yeah and he said "obviously he has a plan, the banks would not have lent to him if he didn't present a solid business plan" me: "he just told the company they're going bankrupt" him: "oh that's just Elon, he always says things like that" Data Graham fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A URL INTO THE BROWSER. ITS TWITTER AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ELON. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME ADVERTISERS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP VERIFICATIONS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY DESTROYED THE WORLD’S MOST LIBERAL WEBSITE. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY DMS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN TWITTER CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE MEMES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY FEED LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I WATCH RICK AND MORTY
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Decon posted:To be slightly fair to someone that 100% does not deserve it, it's common for someone internal (especially the responsible team(s)) to be given the new feature in prod that's otherwise paid. Elon would never allow an employee to just have a free perk. He's going to require all employees to be verified and going to make them all pay for it lol
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PITY BONER posted:Can any goons enlighten me on Dril? Someone somewhere said he was a goon? I don't quite understand why goons regularly post his tweets across the forum. Old FYADer, known for racist “art” such as “rocket n***er”
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CommieGIR posted:Twitter had advertisers for the year, it was whether or not they'd renew. Elon came in with no experience with either advertising nor social networks and hosed it up completely. All the advertisers wanted was a plan. And he popped on the call with them and hosed everything up. I'm gonna beat the bejesus out of this line, but I have every intention to use this as evidence that Elon is not a good engineer. Good engineers know when they don't know something; Elon refuses to acknowledge when he doesn't know something.
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Decon posted:I'm gonna beat the bejesus out of this line, but I have every intention to use this as evidence that Elon is not a good engineer. Good engineers know when they don't know something; Elon refuses to acknowledge when he doesn't know something. A coworker and I have the credo "strong opinions, weakly held" We will fiercely defend our engineering decisions against one another, but we are willing to be convinced. We find it exciting! We learned something! We found a better way to do something! That's loving exhilarating! And overcoming someone's strong defense means you're really sure your answer is better!
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Decon posted:I'm gonna beat the bejesus out of this line, but I have every intention to use this as evidence that Elon is not a good engineer. Good engineers know when they don't know something; Elon refuses to acknowledge when he doesn't know something. Yup. And he's not an Engineer to be honest, he keeps pretending that he is to help perpetuate the image that he's PERSONALLY responsible for things like SpaceX and Tesla. He's just another in a long line of Techbros.
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DaveWoo posted:I don't know if Elon's reputation will ever recover from this. I know folks irl who were admiring Elon as a tech & business genius as recently as a couple of weeks ago, and now they're all like "what the gently caress is that idiot doing". what will matter is if he annihilates Tesla's stock in the process
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