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Xander77 posted:Wasn't there a scandal of some sort about the Kingdom of Loathing devs? Harassment or whatever? Abused his wife. http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?t=240165
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Runa posted:I like the idea of it but the D&D 3.5 ruleset is kind of a nonstarter At least it's much, much tolerable when a computer does most of the work for you but yeah, 3.5 is one of those 'all interesting choices happen outside of combat' kind of systems. Is it at least moddable enough that I can remove all the racist bullshit modifiers from the monster races?
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Azran posted:Is it at least moddable enough that I can remove all the racist bullshit modifiers from the monster races? Say whut now 🤔?
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Nov 11, 2022 20:04
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Is there any correlation between race and the intelligence attribute modifier?
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Nov 11, 2022 20:06
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Bummer. Over the years I probably put $150 or so into KoL for items of the month. DerekSmartymans posted:Say whut now 🤔? Rules systems that say "you are an X? Well all of you are inherently dumber than y" are kinda gross unnecessarily. You don't need it anymore imo. I understand the rationale but in the context of being alive in 2022, we don't need to write racial prescriptivism into our punchman games big cummers ONLY fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Nov 11, 2022 20:13
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Jack Trades posted:Is there any correlation between race and the intelligence attribute modifier? In 3.5 there were; half-orcs got -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma. In 5th ed, I don't think there are any negative ability modifiers, only +es.
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Squiggle posted:In 3.5 there were; half-orcs got -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma. In 5th ed, I don't think there are any negative ability modifiers, only +es. A bonus to an attribute is just a re-contextualized malus.
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You can't even say 'oh it's just a D&Dism' or 'it's just an old-school thing' considering Gygax was a massive racist as well. I don't mind stat modifiers, but -4 to int to all the races that you are meant to murder is a bit yuck. Edit: Even as a systems thing, racial level adjustment is an awful mechanic Azran fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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I'm not gonna beef with folks who don't like the modifiers but I think the bigger issue is all the writing surrounding them. e: nvm, the mechanics are pretty messed up now that I think about it Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Fruits of the sea posted:I'm not gonna beef with folks who don't like the modifiers but I think the bigger issue is all the writing surrounding them. Absolutely. I don't mind, say, Pillars of Eternity having stat modifiers because you don't get any 'Aumaua are literally incapable of creating or understanding culture'-style writing (which was still a thing for 'monster' races in 5e)
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y'all are gonna tell me i'm losing my mind. forgive me, but i don't have time to edit this into a coherent essay. PlushCow posted:I CARE also I thought you could force controller support by using steam's controller settings to map keyboard/mouse stuff to your controller; I remember doing this for like my steam controller, but you should be able to do it for any controller in steams settings you sure can map keyboard buttons to controller buttons, but that's not the same as controller support. in menus, a mouse game doesn't communicate to the interface that "equip" and "buy" are discrete buttons; they're just areas on a screen. in some cases a MKB game doesn't even work right with a touchscreen. you can look at those patch notes for other examples of things that don't work when you originally design for keyboard. the dev had to shoehorn things in later, which just makes it harder to do. that game had "select next character" but not previous. the game runs a check that can fail before allowing you to use a controller that's inputting just fine. it should have an option to "disable unexpected hardware inputs." tons of games choke on inputs from separate devices concurrently. a game might have camera controls on the mouse. the scroll wheel has a click and an incremental/spectrum input. the mouse has clicks and XY coordinates. this could be a nightmare to transfer to something else unless it's originally made like this: 1 any input can toggle or hold [panning or tilting or pivoting or zooming or changing camera location on the map being active] and those can all be used independently and simultaneously 2 any second input can do the variations on camera movement with incremental, analog, digital, or Xy coordinate information 3 it must be possible to bind one or many of (2) to any combination of (1) 4 it must be possible for the user to mess around with this stuff, and it must be possible for a third party to write drivers that would allow any newly invented device to mess around with this stuff for all inputs to behave as flexibly as that sounds like a tall order, i guess. good design doesn't expect or require a user to have any particular peripheral device. game development has, sometimes, a goal of having good interface design, but the culture doesn't pay attention to the best practices and mantras of graphic or product or general design. a pc is not a console that has mouse and key instead of a controller. it's a pc. sometimes devs don't want to bother with "edge cases." sometimes they don't want to bother with what's best for the hardware they're actually designing for. the best game is euro truck simulator ii. in that game every function is discrete and individual. you could play it on a MIDI keyboard. you could write kinect drivers and voice recognition software for it. i bet tons of disabled people play it without those custom-built accessories and trained skills necessary you've seen for other kinds of games. i alluded to PC UI design having respected best practices, but those are going away. until not long ago, i could operate almost anything on a PC without needing a mouse to be even connected. no more. even Windows is betraying me here.
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Jack Trades posted:A bonus to an attribute is just a re-contextualized malus. Well luckily they introduced an option to remove all the inherent racial +'s and you can pick your own instead. So you can add one +2 and one +1 to anything you want, but you can't stack them. Tasha's Guide to Everything fixed a whole load of issues, but that was one of the best I think.
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Yeah a few years into 5e was about the point where someone at WotC realized hard racial modifiers are kinda hosed up when you take in the context of irl racism relying on similar ideas, and also the words of gygax himself being pretty hosed up too when asked about stuff like race and alignment. Also gender but that's a different topic entirely.
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For roleplay value I think your hosed up little guy being inherently good at X is better than all hosed up little guys in the world being good at X. They can still trend towards being good at X if they feel like it.
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Yami Fenrir posted:I love that kinda stuff. Finding semi-broken synergies and stuff is exactly my jam. Way too many games play it way too safe with that kinda stuff as far as I'm concerned, tbh. My friend, have you ever played Rift Wizard https://store.steampowered.com/app/1271280/Rift_Wizard/
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Pwnstar posted:For roleplay value I think your hosed up little guy being inherently good at X is better than all hosed up little guys in the world being good at X. They can still trend towards being good at X if they feel like it. it originally had both of these you would roll dice or point-buy or whatever to get a bunch of stats between 3 and 18 and then you would say "hm i rolled 8 int but 18 strength, but i am a half orc so with my racial modifiers it is actually 6 int and 20 strength, now i can lift boulders with my bare hands but am too stupid to learn how to read"
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Well, at least we know "Jick hates this and hates you too" is universally accurate.
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John Lee posted:My friend, have you ever played Rift Wizard I have not, thanks for the rec
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John Lee posted:My friend, have you ever played Rift Wizard Does it work on the deck? It says unsupported but I know that just means it's unsupported.
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Oscar Wild posted:Does it work on the deck? It says unsupported but I know that just means it's unsupported. According to the steam forums it runs fine but the UI is small outside of windowed mode.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1451090/Tactics_Ogre_Reborn/ Ogre Battle is out.
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In much more important news, The Bible is coming to Steam.
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Rebel Blob posted:In much more important news, The Bible is coming to Steam. oh good the only way i can read galatians is when it's wrapped up in ten minutes worth of ren'py scripting
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Speaking of saviors who we can turn to in our darkest hour:EricFate posted:https://investors.remedygames.com/a...-for-control-2/ Control 2 
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Rebel Blob posted:In much more important news, The Bible is coming to Steam. Song of Solomon will just be an ordinary VN.
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Jerusalem posted:Speaking of saviors who we can turn to in our darkest hour: If Control->Control 2 is half as good as Max Payne-> Max “The finest video game of all time” Payne 2 I can’t wait to play it.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:If Control->Control 2 is half as good as Max Payne-> Max “The finest video game of all time” Payne 2 I can’t wait to play it. Hell, if Control 2 is "only" as good as Control was, I can't wait to play it!
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I can only see Star Control 2 in this conversation and am disappointed that is not what people are talking about.
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Jerusalem posted:Hell, if Control 2 is "only" as good as Control was, I can't wait to play it! 
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Lol I read some random book from a bookshelf a couple hours into Shadows Over Loathing and now all of a sudden my weapons break and need to be repaired, presumably for the rest of the game. Good gag
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GrandpaPants posted:I can only see Star Control 2 in this conversation and am disappointed that is not what people are talking about. 
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Jerusalem posted:Speaking of saviors who we can turn to in our darkest hour: If we're lucky the gameplay will consist of more than just throwing rocks and shooting a nerf gun while waiting for rock to recharge. I was so loving sick of the gameplay by the end. Didn't help that story was garbage either. The lore and world building were fantastic but the actual story that was happening was garbage and you achieved nothing of note during the game's course. Also I audibly groaned when they did the 4th wall breaking meta sequence because that's way overplayed and they were super late to the bandwagon on that one.
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25% of all Linux users who use Steam and have got a hardware survey are Steam Deck owners. Nice. However it seems they're only .32% of all steam users globally
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finally, the year of linux on desktop
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GrandpaPants posted:I can only see Star Control 2 in this conversation and am disappointed that is not what people are talking about. Gonna go download The Ur-Quan Masters again because of this post
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Delsaber posted:Gonna go download The Ur-Quan Masters again because of this post I just this year discovered that the bell instrument in the Spathi theme is literally just the Taco Bell sample from the end of their old commercials and I am never going to be able to unhear that
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Am I supposed to do the necromancer fight right away in Tactics Ogre Reborn? Because I'm getting my rear end kicked here. Lack of quick movement across the map and overall damage output of the opponent just seems nearly undoable
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GrandpaPants posted:I can only see Star Control 2 in this conversation and am disappointed that is not what people are talking about.
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