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What is the most powerful flying bug? This poll is closed. |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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more like failiban
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AnimeIsTrash posted:
Like all pre-modern conceptions of justice, there are extremes of laxity or severity that don’t make sense. Spectacular public execution and gruesome torture, say blinding, go hand in hand with slaps on the wrist and arranging a marriage. Nobility and savagery spring from the same thing, different conceptions of social order and justice. I mean, within these societies there are consistent rules of crime and punishment, shame, honour, the severity of transgression, but as they’re culturally specific they make no sense to us, it’s not like reading the criminal code. So, when we talk about Afghans and Pashtunwali remember that there are things that are from our perspective cruel, arbitrary, unjust. It’s just that justice is whatever a society agrees upon as just, that’s how the most basic form of justice, vendetta, is avoided. Headhunters in Borneo had a code of justice that was understood and recognized, and therefore just to people living under it, but it seems almost incomprehensible to us because it sprang our of specific social conditions. The replacement of local, culturally specific, forms of justice was the project of the 18th and 19th century empires, and was never truly solved. India entered independence with a mixed corpus of English, Hindu and Muslim law, for example. Creating universally recognized standards is incredibly difficult because it requires some cultural basis. The hope of imperial societies, or you could say the Soviet one as well, was to create some level of shared culture that allowed these institutions to be accepted and therefore the laws to “feel” just. “How do you resolve disputes between and within groups” is a problem older than civilization itself, a struggle to restrain humanity red in tooth and claw, but it starts with finding a shared idea of legitimate authority and some way to gratify both parties in order to prevent vendetta.
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Nov 12, 2022 02:28
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what is happening
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Nov 12, 2022 02:29
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speng31b posted:what is happening this thread wants to have sex with the taliban OP
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Nov 12, 2022 02:30
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NeatHeteroDude posted:You gotta hand it to the taliban You really do, after 20 years of US failure they finally brought a legitimate government to Afghanistan.
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Nov 12, 2022 02:30
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a questionable desire
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Nov 12, 2022 02:30
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Afghanistan specifically has had outbreaks of organized or disorganized violence throughout its recorded history. Any authority that stops that - at the village level theft of women and livestock - will be considered “just” in the absence of alternatives. This is covered more thoroughly in The Other Side of the Mountain and Out of the Mountains: The Coming Age of the Urban Guerrilla, but the Taliban are considered impartial judges, mediators and administers of justice because the alternatives seemed worse or culturally alien, because Islam is recognized across tribal and ethnic groups, and because they were believed to be less corrupt and more trustworthy than their competitors. That doesn’t mean they were right in a universal sense, but they provided a form of address for things like a stolen sheep, the use of a well, a disputed pasture.
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Nov 12, 2022 02:33
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Lostconfused posted:You really do, after 20 years of US failure they finally brought a legitimate government to Afghanistan. (gets halfway out of chair while raising hand to speak, pauses to think, sits back down again)
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Nov 12, 2022 02:33
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i can't believe people would post in support of the taliban on this, the second holiest of us troop days
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Nov 12, 2022 02:34
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You do not gotta hand it to ISIS The taliban though...
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Nov 12, 2022 02:35
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My grandfather died in teh holocaust... he fell out the kindergarten!!
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Nov 12, 2022 02:37
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:this thread wants to have sex with the taliban OP
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Nov 12, 2022 02:38
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Homeless Friend posted:lol they should hold another referendum on leaving russia and joining ukraine Homeless Friend posted:every war should have voting. 
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Nov 12, 2022 02:39
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:this thread wants to have sex with the taliban OP haraam
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Nov 12, 2022 02:39
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1591088538648735744
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Nov 12, 2022 02:40
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What the Taliban did that we didn’t - understandably because it’s across a material and cultural chasm - was go out and figure out how many sheep from one village would be permitted to graze in a certain pasture and how they would pay the owners of that pasture for it. This is the sort of thing that could have led to lifestock theft, kidnapping and murder, followed by a cycle of vendetta, without their intervention. It’s silly and un relatable to us, particularly if that meant sitting down for tea for days, but in the daily lives of the people involved was incredibly important, and so providing a way to sort that out - just like we’d look at property and grazing rights and then call bylaw or conservation officers or the RCMP or whoever to resolve breaches in it - that meant they were the trusted authority. That’s the problem, right? How the gently caress were we supposed to take on mediating disputes we have no frame of reference for and thereby provide proof that we were a form of justice anyone could turn to with their problems? When you read about feudal law, and peasants being permitted to have twelve pigs in the county forrest eating acorns from the Feast of Saint So-and-So to the First Day of Advent, things like that, it seems ridiculous, but that’s the basis of a society. To provide an alternative to the Taliban we needed to prove we could regulate things like that. Without being culturally informed of the body of tribal law it was that much harder, just like English Common Law seems universal to Anglos but not to people from a different cultural context. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 02:48 on Nov 12, 2022 |
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Nov 12, 2022 02:44
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:this thread wants to have sex with the taliban OP Hey hey HEY now. This thread only has bedroom eyes for Putin. Make your own gd "gay for Taliban" thread if you want. 
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Nov 12, 2022 02:46
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:this thread wants to That was such a gimme 16bit. You've gotten lazy.
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Nov 12, 2022 02:47
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speng31b posted:what is happening russia lost it just hasnt realized it yet
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Nov 12, 2022 02:47
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redneck nazgul posted:i can't believe people would post in support of the taliban on this, the second holiest of us troop days There's a holier day???
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Nov 12, 2022 02:49
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Anyone praising Afghan reactionaries is getting sent to the gulag when the Soviet Union comes back.
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Nov 12, 2022 02:49
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I'd have tea with the taliban but I'm a double shot mocha frappe lattechino type of guy xD (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 12, 2022 02:49
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NeatHeteroDude posted:There's a holier day??? how about the fourth of july, you godless unamerican commie fascist tankie 
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Nov 12, 2022 02:49
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memorial day is the holier troop day for sure, most of us don't even get veteran's day off to barbecue
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Nov 12, 2022 02:50
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:Anyone praising Afghan reactionaries is getting sent to the gulag when the Soviet Union comes back. Maybe the Soviets should have stuck around to prevent widespread violence and chaos then eh?
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Nov 12, 2022 02:52
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:memorial day is the holier troop day for sure, most of us don't even get veteran's day off to barbecue can you get a free irresistabowl at applebees or a free off the rafters leaping somersault into the golden corral chocolate wonderfall on memorial day?
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Nov 12, 2022 02:52
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redneck nazgul posted:how about the fourth of july, you godless unamerican commie fascist tankie Sounds like there are THREE holy days but because I love them all I don't try to rank one above the others
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Nov 12, 2022 02:53
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Frosted Flake posted:the Orthodox Church hasn’t had that ability in Ukraine in hundreds of years, at least above the neighbour, maybe village level. Moreover the Galicians being Catholic, have been outside of that for I don’t know how long, and their formal dispute resolution systems and traditions were created under Polish-Lithuanian and Austro-Hungarian rule. patriarcha vore papa ☦️👴 🤤 🇻🇦👴
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Nov 12, 2022 02:57
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Majorian posted:Hey hey HEY now. This thread only has bedroom eyes for Putin. Make your own gd "gay for Taliban" thread if you want. Gay for Tay-liban
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Nov 12, 2022 02:58
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redneck nazgul posted:can you get a free irresistabowl at applebees or a free off the rafters leaping somersault into the golden corral chocolate wonderfall on memorial day? Yeah, Applebees is free today
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Nov 12, 2022 02:58
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Frosted Flake posted:Yeah, Applebees is free today thank you for your service 
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Nov 12, 2022 03:00
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OhFunny posted:That was such a gimme 16bit. You've gotten lazy. tea is for libs
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Nov 12, 2022 03:00
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Lostconfused posted:You really do, after 20 years of US failure they finally brought a legitimate government to Afghanistan. o7
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Nov 12, 2022 03:03
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you can’t spell taliban without lib
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Nov 12, 2022 03:04
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gradenko_2000 posted:Gay for Tay-liban I'm so tempted to make this the thread title but I don't want to create confusion.
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Nov 12, 2022 03:05
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:thank you for your service Ich Dien
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Nov 12, 2022 03:05
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Majorian posted:I'm so tempted to make this the thread title but I don't want to create confusion. rename cspam to it
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Nov 12, 2022 03:06
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Majorian posted:I don't want to create confusion. why not, confusion is rad
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Nov 12, 2022 03:07
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:rename cspam to it Ooooh! I'll pass that along to the admins, I like.
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mawarannahr posted:owned Political cartoonist is the laziest loving job, I swear to god
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