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Mod note: Someone absolutely very much obviously dies in this clip. Very possibly multiple somebodys. Please do not watch this unless you are comfortable with that. Looks like it was this B-17? Dunno about the other plane. https://b17texasraiders.org/ Looks like the fighter pilot lost sight of the B-17? Rip Testes fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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Mod note: Someone absolutely very much obviously dies in this clip. Very possibly multiple somebodys. Please do not watch this unless you are comfortable with that. Another angle https://twitter.com/davidsfox4/status/1591522623376211968?s=46&t=sR-bWNcMcUtODjgfZMZMMQ That’s Texas Raiders, flown by the CAF. I’ve seen it fly plenty of times at Wings Over Houston. Somebody fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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gently caress, that's crazy.
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Holy poo poo, someone caught the moment after collision in a zoomed photo  Just awful 
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Just came here to post this. The FAA says the other plane was a P-63 King Cobra?
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Nebakenezzer posted:Just came here to post this. The FAA says the other plane was a P-63 King Cobra? ADSB confirms it. I think there's only 3 -63's and 9 -17s airworthy now
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I stopped going to air shows because I figured it was only a matter of time until I saw some people die. Now I can go back! Thanks Twitter!
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Tragedy.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Speaking of 747s, I tried to find out what happened to that zero hours 747-8i the Saudis let sit for a decade, but I've not had much luck. https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/boeing-747-8-n458bj-boeing/ey1q1d it's being scrapped... https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/saudi-princes-rs-2254-crore-boeing-747-is-being-scrapped-after-sitting-idle-for-10-years-5114689.html
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gently caress that’s brutal. Heard something about a crash in Dallas at work but didn’t know anything about it.
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Hooly poo poo I head something about a crash at the air show and these do happen semi-regularly but that's way worse than I could imagine. Fuuuuuuck
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I don't know how the FAA doesn't respond to this with extra restriction on warbird air show flights. Thankfully everything fell inside the airport campus.
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Yeah, I’m no expert at air shows. But I’ve been a part of combining several military aircraft over a piece of real estate and we always went with at least 2 of these: time, lateral, or altitude separation. Having all three was vastly preferred.
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Hi, friendly neighborhood mod here. I'm sure there's gonna be discussion of this for a bit and I'm sure I'll be reading about it too because god drat that sucks all around. I'm just here to remind you of basic rules. Please do not inline gore and use your best judgement when linking to something that very blatantly features someone dying. Use spoiler tags, content warnings, as appropriate. Ya'll have already been good about it, so thank you for that. Now Imma go hit erase on the brain recorder because holy gently caress I did not need to see that today.
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I hate this and it is a tragedy, but I’m also a goon so: Aeronautical Insanity: Controlled Flight Into Plane I am sincerely sorry. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Ok I've been seeing this rule enforced for a bit now (no specific forums or superstar posters mentioned starting the drama as a debate tactic in order to stop other forums from posting things they don't like), but I'm pointing out 9/11 video is now also banned from being posted untagged. Are we all in agreement people on SA needs content warnings for that now?
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Not everyone is unphased by watching people dying, so it's best to just point it out that someone is dying in something you post.
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I mean first off I think there's a pretty big difference between a major act of political violence, on such a large scale that the human toll is barely comprehensible, broadcast live on cable, that's already had all tragedy squeezed from it over 20 years of using it to justify *waves at the Everything*, versus an accident that just happened and shows a very clear violent end of just a few people. Second, I'm pretty sure tagging visceral things like images of people jumping from the towers is worth being warned about even on these dead gay comedy forums, in a way that's very different from a wide cinematic shot of the towers smoking.
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Warbird posted:I hate this and it is a tragedy, but I’m also a goon so: Aeronautical Insanity: Controlled Flight Into Plane 
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Alright, I can adapt. It'll be ironic, is all
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It's not like the video auto plays and I don't think it needs to be explained that people more often than not perish in aviation disasters. Not trying to mod sass and I'm sorry it ruined your evening but I feel in this thread it's more of a caveat emptor situation when viewing crashes.
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Breaking news: website culture changes over the course of decades as its userbase ages and moves beyond lol-nothing-matters irony poisoning.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Ok I've been seeing this rule enforced for a bit now (no specific forums or superstar posters mentioned starting the drama as a debate tactic in order to stop other forums from posting things they don't like), but If you want to turn this into a referendum on cspam and gbs, you can take it to qcs instead. I have 0 interest in dealing with that poo poo. As for tagging poo poo where people very blatantly get turned into a greasy skidmark on a Texas runway and then set on fire? Yeah, that may not be the healthiest thing for someone to consume video of. Repeated viewings of humans dying has very much shown to have an effect on the human psyche. Again, use your best judgement when posting stuff is all I ask. Edit: And for the record, I absolutely rough chuckled at that title change and agreed with chips and cat that we should do it. Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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but elmnt i'm a fortysomething manchild who hasn't emotionally matured beyond my teenage years and i am BERY DISAPPOINTED that all of a sudeen these fuckiong SNOWFLAKES have ruined my little posting corner with their trashass SENSIBILITY and MATURITY (whatever THAT means  ) whatever am i going to do now that i can't even look at a video of an airplane crash 343 bajillion times and be able to point and laugh as i count every last pixel of body parts and gore raining down on the ground  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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MrChips posted:but elmnt i'm a fortysomething manchild who hasn't emotionally matured beyond my teenage years and i am BERY DISAPPOINTED that all of a sudeen these fuckiong SNOWFLAKES have ruined my little posting corner with their trashass SENSIBILITY and MATURITY (whatever THAT means 
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nothing is lost by warning people what they would see before they click something, people can make their own decisions then. No harm in respecting someone's desire to not see death, and it doesn't look like posting something newsworthy yet containing death is verboten, as long as its described and not inlined if needed. the thumbnails didn't give anything away so that seems just fine, just describe the content imo. i think that's a reasonable balance for newsworthy / on topic items, just ban anyone who doesn't grasp generally accepted standards of conduct
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I mean the tweets themselves also contained content warnings and the videos don’t autoplay, so Yeah, that was my thought when I posted, but in hindsight I should've put a little more context up. My apologies to those caught unaware. Horrible situation. It was such a deliberate manoeuver.
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So there's a good chance my father had a Navy buddy on that B-17. He crewed one of their two B-17s, and we won't find out the manifest until the NTSB releases it.
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I’m on the mailing list and they sent this out a bit ago. Nothing really new but there ya go.
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Warbird posted:I hate this and it is a tragedy, but I’m also a goon so: Aeronautical Insanity: Controlled Flight Into Plane We all knew fresh warbird restrictions were inevitable after this.
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The amount of rules and restrictions that will get piled on will be sky-high. I've been going to AirVenture since 2016 and I expect things to be wildly different this next year.
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At some point they'll just become uninsurable for prices beyond anyone short of a Bezos or a nation-state and that will be the end of it.
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The Shoreham crash massively changed airshows in the UK, although the main impetus was the 11 ground fatalities, the majority of which had no connection to the airshow and were just passing by. It was luck yesterday's accident didn't have worse effects on the highway below. The biggest impact on post-Shoreham airshows, aside from a general increase in cost, has been the increased requirement for separation from crowds/urban development.
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