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Cup Runneth Over posted:I think it's pretty obvious the poo poo in the Bible wasn't made up from scratch and if you give any fucks about history (you should! even if it's only the parts that interest you) it's certainly worth investigating what real inspiration it drew from for its stories no
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I think it's pretty obvious the poo poo in the Bible wasn't made up from scratch and if you give any fucks about history (you should! even if it's only the parts that interest you) it's certainly worth investigating what real inspiration it drew from for its stories
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Nov 12, 2022 23:59
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God revealed himself to Moses in a burning bush that wasn't consumed by the flames. If God isn't real then explain that libtards
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Nov 13, 2022 00:01
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mystes posted:It wasn't made up from scratch because... it was plagiarized from other religions. That doesn't mean it has any historical basis. some of the stranger stuff came from shamans who wandered in from the steppes, and if you don't respect the shamans, i don't respect you. a strange fowl has issued a correction as of 00:13 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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Nov 13, 2022 00:08
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Mayor Dave posted:God revealed himself to Moses in a burning bush that wasn't consumed by the flames. If God isn't real then explain that libtards 
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Nov 13, 2022 00:13
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quote:they just wanted a record of important stuff that actually happened to them, like famines and asteroids Like most myths from other cultures don't get treated as a "factual record" so I'm not sure why the old testament is so special except that Christianity happens to be the dominant religion in the place most goons are from?
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Nov 13, 2022 00:14
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was it someone in this thread who recommended Patrick Nunn's 'The Edge of Memory', which makes a compelling (if repetitive) case that some Australian oral traditions (from dozens of aboriginal groups) date back 12K+ years? I find it funny that so many scholarly books, in arguing that the ancients understood the denuding influences of agriculture, refer to Plato's Critias as a sort of smoking gun, despite its being about the mythical atlantis. I don't know why one should be any more or less trustworthy than another (bible vs plato); although in practice it seems like these connections are only made (or at least perceived as meaningful) on the basis of subsequently-discovered material evidence. To be clear, I am definitely pro-bible-chat. edit: and pro-gettin'-mad-at-bible-chat  take_it_slow has issued a correction as of 00:17 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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Nov 13, 2022 00:15
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what do you think the foundational myth of the post-humans will be, and do you think it will involve the new world arising from the remains of the old world that has been consumed by a ravenous flaming beast with an unyielding hunger?
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Nov 13, 2022 00:17
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Trabisnikof posted:lmao that the COP is being held in the Lamborghini Convention Center and is unbearably cold inside from too much air conditioning, too hot outside from being a desert, has no food, and involves long confusing treks and harassment by armed guards apparently the other day the portable toilets burst and were leaking all over the exit
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Nov 13, 2022 00:19
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a strange fowl posted:"the bible" is a huge collection of texts, all from different eras, some more factual than others. itt i've only been talking about genesis, a collected oral history that was occasionally inspired by stories that came in from elsewhere but mostly concerned with the direct experiences of the people telling the stories. they didn't start out going "let's make up a bunch of poo poo to terrify the rest of the world with our angry patron deity", they just wanted a record of important stuff that actually happened to them, like famines and asteroids. if a person believes in an omnipotent creator who can't be directly depicted by human artistry, a factual timeline of history is as close to a portrait of that entity as you will get. i have nothing but respect for the shamans 
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Nov 13, 2022 00:21
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mystes posted:specific evidence
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Nov 13, 2022 00:57
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blatman posted:i have nothing but respect for the shamans zug zug
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Nov 13, 2022 01:19
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take_it_slow posted:was it someone in this thread who recommended Patrick Nunn's 'The Edge of Memory', which makes a compelling (if repetitive) case that some Australian oral traditions (from dozens of aboriginal groups) date back 12K+ years? which, in turn, comes from a flawed interpretation of the book of genesis. the text states that humans were created all over the world, presumably each in their own gardens, and then adam was made out of dust in the levant. but the assumption that every single human in the world is descended from a single pair in a single geographical location permeates science completely. it's frustrating to see how the single origin theory holds back the work of researchers like nunn. a strange fowl has issued a correction as of 01:33 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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Nov 13, 2022 01:30
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dieselfruit posted:what do you think the foundational myth of the post-humans will be, and do you think it will involve the new world arising from the remains of the old world that has been consumed by a ravenous flaming beast with an unyielding hunger? Mystical ancients who's abuse of magic lead to the destruction of the world
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Nov 13, 2022 01:38
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dieselfruit posted:what do you think the foundational myth of the post-humans will be, and do you think it will involve the new world arising from the remains of the old world that has been consumed by a ravenous flaming beast with an unyielding hunger? A slightly distorted depiction of Tim Currey's Hexxus and Frank Zappa's Yellow Snow will be the only extant remnants of human culture for thousands of years and will be foundational to the mythology of corvus sapiens. 'wrathful and wet' will be the human legacy
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Nov 13, 2022 01:40
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a strange fowl posted:that book does a great job linking the stories to evidence of geological events. that level of respect and validation of indigenous knowledge was and is groundbreaking for a western author, unfortunately. at the same time it's a frustrating read, because he also keeps saying that humans originated in africa and migrated to australia via asia, and drawing conclusions about the maximum age of the stories from that assumption. many of these same traditions state clearly that the people didn't come from anywhere else, they evolved into humans exactly where they are. their histories go back way further than twelve thousand years, it's just that white scientists won't accept that because it would disrupt the single origin theory of human evolution. what's your favorite secret message encoded in the bible?
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Nov 13, 2022 01:43
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Blockade posted:Mystical ancients who's abuse of magic lead to the destruction of the world we dug the spirits of the ancient dead out of the ground and used their power to do wondrous and magical things. in exchange those spirits poisoned the air, water, and soil. they unleashed fire, floods, droughts, and plagues in retribution for our energy greed.
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Nov 13, 2022 01:53
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dieselfruit posted:what do you think the foundational myth of the post-humans will be, and do you think it will involve the new world arising from the remains of the old world that has been consumed by a ravenous flaming beast with an unyielding hunger?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WanRFNtFwGI
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Nov 13, 2022 01:58
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Would Ned Flanders lie to me 
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Nov 13, 2022 01:59
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That is how we're deserved to be remembered.
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Nov 13, 2022 02:14
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jetz0r posted:what's your favorite secret message encoded in the bible?
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Nov 13, 2022 02:29
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look, once this economic foundation is strong, we're on easy street
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Nov 13, 2022 03:00
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a strange fowl posted:their histories go back way further than twelve thousand years, it's just that white scientists won't accept that because it would disrupt the single origin theory of human evolution. This is just objectively wrong though, it's common knowledge people have been in Austalia for way more than 12 millenia, and it doesn't have any bearing on human evolution, you have a bizarre understanding of the lengths of time involved in this poo poo. Also shutup.
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Nov 13, 2022 03:07
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Egg Moron posted:look, once this economic foundation is strong, we're on easy street
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Nov 13, 2022 03:10
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mystes posted:I'm imagining "economic foundation" meaning something like Asimov's Foundation except it will exist to guide post collapse civilization back to collateralized debt obligations and leveraged buyouts The few survivors of The Great Burn will regress back to being primitive hunter-gatherers, occasionally tribes will meet to exchange their youth in arranged marriages and discuss their debt portfolios.
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Nov 13, 2022 03:45
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all history is fake, oral history is double fake
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Nov 13, 2022 03:52
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original sin replaced with original debt the slave caste must eternally pay off their sins and the kindness of being given life by the Masters until death, the great jubilee
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Nov 13, 2022 03:55
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a strange fowl posted:"the bible" is a huge collection of texts, all from different eras, some more factual than others. itt i've only been talking about genesis, a collected oral history that was occasionally inspired by stories that came in from elsewhere but mostly concerned with the direct experiences of the people telling the stories. they didn't start out going "let's make up a bunch of poo poo to terrify the rest of the world with our angry patron deity", they just wanted a record of important stuff that actually happened to them, like famines and asteroids. if a person believes in an omnipotent creator who can't be directly depicted by human artistry, a factual timeline of history is as close to a portrait of that entity as you will get. Plz stop you dont know anything about religion.
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Nov 13, 2022 03:55
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dieselfruit posted:what do you think the foundational myth of the post-humans will be, and do you think it will involve the new world arising from the remains of the old world that has been consumed by a ravenous flaming beast with an unyielding hunger? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterworld#Plot they'll think we're a myth if they even think of us at all
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Nov 13, 2022 04:04
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take_it_slow posted:I find it funny that so many scholarly books, in arguing that the ancients understood the denuding influences of agriculture, refer to Plato's Critias as a sort of smoking gun, despite its being about the mythical atlantis.
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A Bakers Cousin posted:Plz stop you dont know anything about religion.
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Nov 13, 2022 04:28
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Hubbert posted:original sin replaced with original debt
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Nov 13, 2022 04:29
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a strange fowl posted:i am religion who's rereg are you
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Nov 13, 2022 04:41
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Cloks posted:who's rereg are you Not much, who's rereg with you?
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Nov 13, 2022 05:06
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Cloks posted:who's rereg are you
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Nov 13, 2022 05:09
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the monomyth is just a dude making GBS threads in a puddle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZmEro_ODqc&t=1511s
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Nov 13, 2022 07:39
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the cringe is inside the thread again
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Nov 13, 2022 07:44
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kater posted:the cringe is inside the thread again a strange fowl is one of ArfJason's better gimmicks.
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Egg Moron posted:look, once this economic foundation is strong, we're on easy street rudy will await your foundation
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