Elon Musk: He only experiences Dunning-Krugerrand

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Should I step down as head of twitter This poll is closed.
Yes	420	4.43%
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MrQwerty: Apr 15, 2003; LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL (づ￣ �￣)づ♥(�∀�●)

Frank Frank posted:

I wouldn't get too excited because he fired all the people who could actually make it happen.

everything related to twitter for two weeks has been dumber than my wildest dreams and i love it

# ? Nov 13, 2022 06:33

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# ? May 30, 2024 13:52

crime weed: Nov 9, 2009

gay picnic defence posted:

His lawyers (I assume) drafted a contract that was already pretty favourable to Twitter, then Twitter added some amendments that were even more favourable to them and he signed it anyway.

This was all before Tesla's and Twitter's stock prices tanked and he still thought he was getting a good deal.

imagine being the lawyer(s) at twitter who got to write up those amendments, fully expecting there to be countless rounds of back-and-forth during negotiations. a landmark legal parley...

the next morning... "he signed it?!?"

# ? Nov 13, 2022 06:38

cracker: May 12, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

AARP LARPer posted:

it's a sexist term that means being open about how your company operates (revealing what's hidden)

How is open kimono sexist when it's not a unisex clothing? Sounds like a blue check comment pre $8

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:15

Solus: May 31, 2011; Drongos.

the twitter is coming from inside the thread

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:15

kw0134: Apr 19, 2003; I buy feet pics🍆

Klyith posted:

I dunno, because it also reminds me of myself and other people I've known who have hosed up reallll bad, but in a way that has some time between knowing you made a mistake and the consequences.

tldr living is a state of suppressed panic and tension looks a lot like mental illness

His decision making in general exhibits this sort of behavior. He's gonna create Hyperloop! Nah, he's not gonna create it. We're gonna make a Tesla SUV! With hookers and blackjack! Well, maybe a cybertruck? Watch this rock bounce off the window. Oh. Well. At least it'll float for some period of time right? Eh. His life is an apparent maelstrom of impulsive decisions he feels strongly about until he doesn't and he takes a different stance. The Twitter purchase happens to be one with much larger implications than his usual mercurial method of choosing something.

crime weed posted:

i feel like the the "why did musk sign it?" is probably --- he didn't read it, and didn't listen to the lawyer. maybe didn't even let the lawyer try to explain.

but like, *how did it get written* --- because he sure as hell didn't write it. are his most trusted lawyers just... that incompetent? maybe all the competent ones quit/were fired?

alternatively/in addition, was Musk so serious about the purchase (initially) that he insisted to the lawyers that they write a "surefire" purchase contract?

The thing to remember is that Musk pushed incredibly hard to close the deal, he offered concession after concession; this wasn't a case of "oh what did the lawyer right down? Oh no I don't agree to that!", he specifically said he'd do things that no sane acquirer would allow. There is no one on Earth that would have advised him to waive due diligence. And no one would have advised him to let Twitter give veto on the ability to walk away. These are terms that he personally offered or accepted to get the deal done. You don't need to be a M&A specialist to exclaim that this was nuts; outside observers said it was nuts. The price was too high, the waiver of pretty much anything that may let him walk. Everyone was going :psyduck:

at the whole deal.

And this all happened at breakneck speed. Twitter went from ready to adopt a poison pill to signing documents in about a week; the terms were too good. Musk personally handed Twitter a water-tight guarantee worth tens of billions of dollars. He wanted it bad. What's worse? "He had no plan for how to manage...Twitter." He had a shiny object he wanted so much. Just wing it! $44 billion, half of which he ended up fronting personally, on a whim.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:16

EVIL Gibson: Mar 23, 2001; Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!; Switchblade Switcharoo

crime weed posted:

imagine being the lawyer(s) at twitter who got to write up those amendments, fully expecting there to be countless rounds of back-and-forth during negotiations. a landmark legal parley...

the next morning... "he signed it?!?"

But ... but... he's a billionaire !!!???? I thought all rich people were savant level geniuses at business?!?!?

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:17

Captain Hygiene: Sep 17, 2007; You mess with the crabbo...

Solus posted:

the twitter is coming from inside the thread

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:18

Happy Landfill: Feb 26, 2011; I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

crime weed posted:

i feel like the the "why did musk sign it?" is probably --- he didn't read it, and didn't listen to the lawyer. maybe didn't even let the lawyer try to explain.

but like, *how did it get written* --- because he sure as hell didn't write it. are his most trusted lawyers just... that incompetent? maybe all the competent ones quit/were fired?

alternatively/in addition, was Musk so serious about the purchase (initially) that he insisted to the lawyers that they write a "surefire" purchase contract?

Genuinely, I think it's because Twitter called his bluff and he knew he would look like a diptshit if he backed out. And now he looks like an even bigger dipshit

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:20

AARP LARPer: Feb 19, 2005; THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR; Buglord

cracker posted:

How is open kimono sexist when it's not a unisex clothing? Sounds like a blue check comment pre $8

sorry if i called used the wrong words

it's a reference to opening a women's kimono to get a peek underneath which is kind of gross. a kimono is "complicated", so unraveling it is difficult. refering to how it's difficult to see the actual business plans of companies. sorry if i upset anyone, but it's a term used in business which i hate

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:24

Rigel: Nov 11, 2016

cracker posted:

How is open kimono sexist when it's not a unisex clothing? Sounds like a blue check comment pre $8

Hello Elon, welcome to the Something Awful message board.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:26

The Saddest Rhino: Apr 29, 2009; Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.

I honestly have never heard the term and I assume it's something that has been phased out but still remains in some liminal spaces

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:26

god please help me: Jul 9, 2018; I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA

yeah i can't believe that's an actual business term, yikes lol

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:28

big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

The two biggest categories of bots I used to see on Twitter were t shirt spam and crypto spam. Looking at how seemingly real crypto people post, there is no way you could meaningfully combat the crypto bots without catching a significant number of real crypto nerds which is a 100% overlap with his fan base. They would absolutely turn on him

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:29

sweet geek swag: Mar 29, 2006; Adjust lasers to FUN!

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I honestly have never heard the term and I assume it's something that has been phased out but still remains in some liminal spaces

My guess is that it's one of those terms you just assume the worst possible interpretation of because the people using it are gross weirdos. You know, normal business executives.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:30

kw0134: Apr 19, 2003; I buy feet pics🍆

As someone put it (and I don't remember if I read it here or on Twitter), Elon is such a narcissist that he thinks all the bots following him are geniune people but anyone who says something mean to him is a bot. He absolutely is right that there's a ton of bots, but he doesn't seem to realize or understand that they're the ones who give him greater sway than he warrants on the platform.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:32

EVIL Gibson: Mar 23, 2001; Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!; Switchblade Switcharoo

AARP LARPer posted:

sorry if i called used the wrong words

it's a reference to opening a women's kimono to get a peek underneath which is kind of gross. a kimono is "complicated", so unraveling it is difficult. refering to how it's difficult to see the actual business plans of companies. sorry if i upset anyone, but it's a term used in business which i hate

Richards, please give me the Swinging My Nads Across Your Desk report by end of business while I do the Stalking my Ex audits

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:34

AARP LARPer: Feb 19, 2005; THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR; Buglord

EVIL Gibson posted:

Richards, please give me the Swinging My Nads Across Your Desk report by end of business while I do the Stalking my Ex audits

poo poo is weird out there, my friend...

open kimono
piercing the corporate veil
poison pills
shark repellent
bear hug

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:40

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

AARP LARPer posted:

poo poo is weird out there, my friend...

open kimono
piercing the corporate veil
poison pills
shark repellent
bear hug

Four of these aren't weird at all.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:42

FirstnameLastname: Jul 10, 2022

god please help me posted:

yeah i can't believe that's an actual business term, yikes lol

it's only the legal business term when you say it like pauly shore

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:43

sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

lol open kimono is actually derived from the Japanese phrase 陰茎 which translates to something like casual lunch, a reference to loosening of traditional business formality

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:49

Douche Wolf 89: Dec 9, 2010; 🍉🐺8️⃣9️⃣

glad we lifted the kilt on this one

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:52

sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

Douche Wolf 89 posted:

glad we lifted the kilt on this one

MODS???

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:55

Yorkshire Pudding: Nov 24, 2006

Let's close the loop on kimono chat so we can circle back to elon pysche chat and figure out the pain points on the Twitter acquisition.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:56

MrQwerty: Apr 15, 2003; LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL (づ￣ �￣)づ♥(�∀�●)

my prediction is that Elon sells Twittter to Yilong Ma for �250,000 in April

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:56

The Saddest Rhino: Apr 29, 2009; Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.

sugar free jazz posted:

lol open kimono is actually derived from the Japanese phrase 陰茎 which translates to something like casual lunch, a reference to loosening of traditional business formality

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:57

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

sugar free jazz posted:

MODS???

# ? Nov 13, 2022 07:57

Lammasu: May 8, 2019; lawful Good Monster

I think one thing we've overlooked is that Roiland had a good idea for verifying accounts that Elon completely ignored. So, it looks like the guy that did a back to the future parody with Marty licking Doc Brown's balls is smarter that Elon.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 08:05

EVIL Gibson: Mar 23, 2001; Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!; Switchblade Switcharoo

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

Let's close the loop on kimono chat so we can circle back to elon pysche chat and figure out the pain points on the Twitter acquisition.

sneakily unties the loop :agesilaus:

# ? Nov 13, 2022 08:10

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Lammasu posted:

I think one thing we've overlooked is that Roiland had a good idea for verifying accounts that Elon completely ignored. So, it looks like the guy that did a back to the future parody with Marty licking Doc Brown's balls is smarter that Elon.

Well, you have to be very intelligent to appreciate Rick and Morty, after all. Or however that idiot comment went.

# ? Nov 13, 2022 08:14