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teen witch posted:As a cocktail fan, systemet is a land of contrasts.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Obviously they should have free samples for you to try, your response to which gets put into a central register (so you can't keep sampling the same drink). This might also expand the breadth of drinks Swedes are willing to buy, thus improving variety which seems to also be a problem? Hell they don’t even need to be free! I just sometimes don’t need 750ml for a new recipe I want to try. I mean while it’s cool to have a bunch of liquor used once or twice, a much smaller portion would be better. If I need to buy more, I’ll do so. And yeah, if it isn’t wine, beer or cider, you’re hosed. I am no fun at bars
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Nov 12, 2022 22:32
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luminalflux posted:their rum selection is abysmal. I used to think this too but eventually I realized that every time I've gone out of my way to get something that isn't Diplomatico, I've been disappointed that it wasn't as good as Diplomatico. It's in the permanent selection for a reason. Basically, Systembolaget was right all along and I should have trusted their judgement. The problem with Systembolaget is actually the opposite; they have to pretend to give you the capitalist freedom of choice between 20 different kinds of toothpaste where they should just provide the correct option plus maybe a low cost alternative. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBLChzYrltg TheFluff fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 12, 2022 |
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Nov 12, 2022 22:34
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So a slightly smaller LCBO https://www.lcbo.com/ Wow your booze is even more expensive than Ontario Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 12, 2022 |
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Nov 12, 2022 22:52
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Yes but our hockey teams are also better
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Nov 12, 2022 22:56
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luminalflux posted:Yes but our hockey teams are also better In shootouts, traditionally 
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Nov 12, 2022 23:00
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one of my, my only, right wing take is that i despise the monopoly
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I truly wouldn’t mind the monopoly if it didn’t stink at variety. Like I get the concept and I’m behind it but don’t punish me with poo poo selection.
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Nov 13, 2022 02:57
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teen witch posted:Hell they don’t even need to be free! I just sometimes don’t need 750ml for a new recipe I want to try. I mean while it’s cool to have a bunch of liquor used once or twice, a much smaller portion would be better. If I need to buy more, I’ll do so. I mean here in US and A i don't see a lot of half-bottles of spirits either, so idk if that would automatically be solved by privatization
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Nov 13, 2022 05:39
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As a Dane who had visited Occupied East Denmark and bought alcohol a few times, systemet seems like a big upgrade compared to the supermarket selections in Denmark, but pretty boring compared to all the small niche stores in Copenhagen. Like, I don't even like wine, but I know a few places that specialise in naturvin, which would be hard to find in Sweden. Same for liquor and especially beer. So what I'm saying is that systemet is better than supermarket chains, but hipsters are superior.
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Nov 13, 2022 08:30
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luminalflux posted:I mean here in US and A i don't see a lot of half-bottles of spirits either, so idk if that would automatically be solved by privatization It is very much the svensk experience to write a 4000-word essay on what one imagines choice would be like, and how that would improve the consumer experience. None of this needs to be couched in reality.
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BonHair posted:As a Dane who had visited Occupied East Denmark and bought alcohol a few times, systemet seems like a big upgrade compared to the supermarket selections in Denmark, but pretty boring compared to all the small niche stores in Copenhagen. Like, I don't even like wine, but I know a few places that specialise in naturvin, which would be hard to find in Sweden. Same for liquor and especially beer. Where would we be as a nation and as a people without the option of going to the hipster wine bar around the corner to get their recommendation on the perfect wine for when your building has just had major water damage and it will be months before the repairs are done? (pink champagne, pairs well with popcorn which was the only edible thing left undestroyed)
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The Norwegian wine selection would be absolute garbage without Vinmonopolet. At least now the cheap options are halfway descent, if it was a free market they would sell the 2 euro garbage wines for 100 kr. Plenty of natty wines to be had at Vinmonopolet too, sounds like Systemet just needs to catch up. The variety is actually quite good, some the hipster stuff does sell out instantly, but if not for the monopoly those wines would have been exclusively allocated to restaurants anyway, at least now there's a chance of being lucky and getting some Cedric Bouchard or whatever at cost. thotsky fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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Idk if this is an absurd radical thought but I think if they do want to have a state monopoly they should remove it for beer. Just remove the weirdness behind folköl and have regular 5% beer in supermarkets, then keep systemet for everything else.
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fnox posted:Idk if this is an absurd radical thought but I think if they do want to have a state monopoly they should remove it for beer. Just remove the weirdness behind folköl and have regular 5% beer in supermarkets, then keep systemet for everything else. That is how you get Admittedly Finland might have a different starting point
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Anyone with an (ugh) Politiken subscription who'd be kind enough to c/p Skipper's hot take for EL renewal? From the snippet it seems like she thinks the party is too concerned with procedure and such.
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Systemet in Sweden has a crazy huge selection of stuff. It's just not all in the actual physical shops. But if you go online to their webshop you can find all sorts of obscure poo poo from all over the world and can easily order whatever you want either directly home to you or to your local shop. I just recently bought some Swedish wine made with treesap from there and I've purchased wines made on the slopes of Etna as well as weird japanese sake selections and niche local brewery ale... The more I've experienced other countries alcohol shops the more I've started appreciating Systembolaget. I guess monopoly isn't always bad Zzulu fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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thotsky posted:The Norwegian wine selection would be absolute garbage without Vinmonopolet. At least now the cheap options are halfway descent, if it was a free market they would sell the 2 euro garbage wines for 100 kr. State commodity monopolies can be pretty based, especially when it comes to distribution. Systemet in Sweden is a good example, which several goons have pointed out already.
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Zzulu posted:Systemet in Sweden has a crazy huge selection of stuff. It's just not all in the actual physical shops. But if you go online to their webshop you can find all sorts of obscure poo poo from all over the world and can easily order whatever you want either directly home to you or to your local shop. I just recently bought some Swedish wine made with treesap from there and I've purchased wines made on the slopes of Etna as well as weird japanese sake selections and niche local brewery ale... yeah this is a seriously underrated side of vinmonopolet as well - stuff which would only be available in select specialist shops in, like, four towns is actually and genuinely available in the furthest reaches of the land. they'll even mail stuff to you free of charge if your closest vinmonopol is too far away. in practice this means that the selection for anyone who cares anywhere in the country is at the level of people in a city of at least 100k. if you want something which polet doesn't have in those places, there's going to be specialised wine bars and stuff which have their own selections. in a small country which still has a fairly dispersed population, this is an excellent service.
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Konec Hry posted:I mean, yes, of course. Still, would such a thing happen in our lifetime? Personally I think it would start with Germany legalizing, then Denmark. If it was legal in Copenhagen it would pretty much be legal in the Malmö-region. I guess it theoretically could happen in the next… 60 years. Germany seems to be on the way so who knows. Maybe I'm just hopelessly naive, but I feel like when the US legalizes (and they have to eventually, two more states did it just a few days ago, almost at the halfway point now) and Germany opening up a huge market in Europe....I dunno, say 10-20 years at worst, not 60.
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Alkoholmonpol forever. Död åt fria marknaden. Anyway the local news says inflation increases further in Finland due to increased mortage interests. Which increased as a conesquence of the interest rate being raised by the ECB, which they uhm did... to stop inflation? I admit I am confused. https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10015555/64-3-121223
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His Divine Shadow posted:Alkoholmonpol forever. Död åt fria marknaden. Adopting the Euro means that your are now a passenger in Germany's economic car. I hope you enjoy the ride and that it will hurt less than it did for the southern parts of the Union in the aftermath of '08.
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teen witch posted:I truly wouldn’t mind the monopoly if it didn’t stink at variety. Like I get the concept and I’m behind it but don’t punish me with poo poo selection.
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Potrzebie posted:Adopting the Euro means that your are now a passenger in Germany's economic car. I hope you enjoy the ride and that it will hurt less than it did for the southern parts of the Union in the aftermath of '08.
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Apropos of nothing, I wonder if there are any Norwegian comedians who can't hold their liquor. Probably not, right?
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Almost all Norwegian comedians are awful sober as well, so it doesn't make a difference.
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Getting drunk doesn't automatically make you a racist rear end in a top hat, it only makes you worse at hiding it.
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 "She didn't treat the pervert with the proper respect, so no we're gong to throw her to the loving wolves."
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Alhazred posted:Getting drunk doesn't automatically make you a racist rear end in a top hat, it only makes you worse at hiding it. This. So tired of people blaming racist poo poo on alcohol. That poo poo would not come out of your mouth if you weren’t already racist, the alcohol only helped remove that common sense to shut up.
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TheRat posted:Almost all Norwegian comedians are awful sober as well, so it doesn't make a difference. Since you’re all bothering to post in English - care to explain what any of this is about?
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Alcohol just makes your mouth overflow with the contents of your heart. And sometimes your stomach, too.
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Alhazred posted:Getting drunk doesn't automatically make you a racist rear end in a top hat, it only makes you worse at hiding it. In vino veritas
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Beeswax posted:Since you’re all bothering to post in English - care to explain what any of this is about? There's a famous and generally well liked comedian who's now being investigated for hate speech (and possibly assault?) after apparently freaking out extremely at bar over...I don't know, honestly. Seeing a black person? Jack Trades posted:In vino veritas KozmoNaut posted:Alcohol just makes your mouth overflow with the contents of your heart. But this isn't actually true though. Or, it can be true and might be in this specific case, but it's not like that's just how it works. It's not a truth serum.
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Crespolini posted:But this isn't actually true though. Or, it can be true and might be in this specific case, but it's not like that's just how it works. It's not a truth serum. Is it not? I was pretty sure that it was a well known thing that alcohol is known to generally lower a person's inhibitions, and that's why you get people saying/doing things that they otherwise barely contain behind a veneer of civility.
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Jack Trades posted:Is it not? I was pretty sure that it was a well known thing that alcohol is known to generally lower a person's inhibitions, and that's why you get people saying/doing things that they otherwise barely contain behind a veneer of civility. I mean, the short answer is that a lowering of inhibitions can make you share personal information and say whatever comes to mind without thinking about consequences. It can also make you lie or embellish, and otherwise simply respond based on farcical interpretations of a situation. I think if you have a lot of experience being around drunk people while you're sober, you'll know a drunk’s reactions aren’t really to be trusted You really have to judge by what you know of the individual....which is somewhat unfortunate for Antonsen. People who at least claim to know him are saying he has kind of a habit of going of with his opinions when he's hammered.
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Had to go google since no one would even name the guy. It's Atle Antonsen. Real shame. Liked him in Dag and thought he was the best non-uk Taskmaster host.
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He posted his apology, where he basically admits the events. Dunno how this works exactly but I assume he'll be convicted now with whatever consequence that'll have?quote:Unnskyld.
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