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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017


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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Al-Saqr posted:

so not only are you a Nazi symbol fan you’re also super wrong because not only was vlad the impaler defeated, beheaded and had his head on display by the ottomans his brother was Mehmet’s personal gay lover and was installed as ruler of Romania afterwar Vlad got owned.

you know what you’re right you should get more rulers like him so the Turks can finally take the balkans and restore order to that hellscape.

it’s pretty clear you’re a psycho because the only thing you know or care about was impaling bodies.

also who’s this ‘we’ you’re referring? “western civilization” or whatever?

Radu, Vlad Dracula's brother, was Vovoide of Walachia only before Vlad's death and died around the same time as him. You may be partially confusing him with Radu the Great, their nephew, although his father was Vovoide before him and both Vlad Dracula and Radu the Handsome (Mehemet II's lover) replaced each other as Vovoide. Romania didn't exist, large parts of modern Romania were part of Hungary. Most of Vlad Dracula's reputation is slander.
I think it's amusing that your position is that Turkey should conquer the Balkans and that you think I am a psycho.
We is humanity in general and I'll leave you with this Stalin quote from earlier that might make my position clearer.

Comrade Koba posted:

some georgian guy posted:

The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Weka posted:

Radu, Vlad Dracula's brother, was Vovoide of Walachia only before Vlad's death and died around the same time as him. You may be partially confusing him with Radu the Great, their nephew, although his father was Vovoide before him and both Vlad Dracula and Radu the Handsome (Mehemet II's lover) replaced each other as Vovoide. Romania didn't exist, large parts of modern Romania were part of Hungary. Most of Vlad Dracula's reputation is slander.
I think it's amusing that your position is that Turkey should conquer the Balkans and that you think I am a psycho.
We is humanity in general and I'll leave you with this Stalin quote from earlier that might make my position clearer.


are you gonna condemn the nazi symbol you defended?

are you going to explain what you mean by 'we need more leaders like him'.?

what specifically do you like about Vlad the Impaler and why you think he's an admirable figure worth emulating?

who do you specifically mean by 'We'?

Also why do you think 'We' need people like him if in the end he was a loser who lost and got his head put on display and the ottomans won and put their puppets in control. So why would anyone like such a loser who impaled people on spikes?

Also, the difference between me and you is that I actually think the ottoman empire was a piece of poo poo empire, I dont cheer for them or want them back, you however WANT 'Vlad the Impaler' back, and given your defence of nazi symbology it's pretty obvious what your political views are and that you probably are a huge fan of the movie '300'.

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 07:52 on Nov 13, 2022

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

gently caress off idiot

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Al-Saqr thinks all Transylvanians are the same. This is disgusting racism against the people of Bujdak.

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

HiroProtagonist posted:

gently caress off idiot

this

AnimeIsTrash posted:

If you look at their recent posts they're all like "yeah i've bene taking a break from SA because of my heckin mental health" lmfao

they used to be a mod lol.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Calibanibal posted:

White people suck. In my book, the citizens of Ukraine and Finland are honorary black people, because of how cool they are

if it was captain alex going around blowing away russian infiltrator citizens rather than corporal wolfs angel i'd definitely be more sympathetic....

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

AnimeIsTrash posted:

If you look at their recent posts they're all like "yeah i've bene taking a break from SA because of my heckin mental health" lmfao

lol he also does some sort of MIC maintenance backend. YOU GODDAMN TANKES DO YOU UNDERSTADN REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

oh nice, i thought we had run out of lunatics

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

CODChimera posted:

oh nice, i thought we had run out of lunatics

he also did Krav Maga at a "Grandmaster level," so I feel very comfortable challenging him to an MMA match for a free unban.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Tankbuster posted:

Al-Saqr thinks all Transylvanians are the same. This is disgusting racism against the people of Bujdak.

You're right, not all of them are Draculas, some of them are familiars, thralls, ghouls, gosts, bats, rats and zombies too!

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Al-Saqr posted:

You're right, not all of them are Draculas, some of them are familiars, thralls, ghouls, gosts, bats, rats and zombies too!

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Where do the romani fall into this taxonomy hmm?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Tankbuster posted:

Where do the romani fall into this taxonomy hmm?

https://youtu.be/0pLCDnbBEk0

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 12:17 on Nov 13, 2022

speng31b
May 8, 2010

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1591562815000965120

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Tankbuster posted:

Where do the romani fall into this taxonomy hmm?

Well, as seen in the quotes from Romania’s Holy War, they were extremely Political from 1941-44.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


A chill wind blows across the thread.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Frosted Flake posted:

Well, as seen in the quotes from Romania’s Holy War, they were extremely Political from 1941-44.

he’s talking about Romani people not Romanians

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Frosted Flake posted:

Well, as seen in the quotes from Romania’s Holy War, they were extremely Political from 1941-44.

its weird because in the book the romani have the vibe that the romanians treat them kind of like black people in the US while every other axis member just wanted to genocide them outright.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
it’s pretty crazy how even today Europeans HATE Romani, my only exposure to them was in fiction with the whole traveling circus fortune telling thing but man was I surprised when I went to Europe how much they were not liked.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

NeatHeteroDude posted:

he also did Krav Maga at a "Grandmaster level," so I feel very comfortable challenging him to an MMA match for a free unban.

lmao

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

Heckin redditors not squaring this with their opinions on the Uighurinos.



Forcing human children to learn orcish will permanently mutilate their vocal chords, so this is a big win for human rights

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Al-Saqr posted:

it’s pretty crazy how even today Europeans HATE Romani, my only exposure to them was in fiction with the whole traveling circus fortune telling thing but man was I surprised when I went to Europe how much they were not liked.

the romanian tour guide who told us about vlad the impaler also told us about how pissed off the romanians were about a news article that said the romanian football team in some international match "played like skilled gypsys."

he said if kids got dirty playing outside, their parents would say that looked dirty "like a gypsy" and likewise everything else bad meant being "like a gyspy." it was a whole thing.

iCe-CuBe.
Jun 9, 2011

NeatHeteroDude posted:

this

they used to be a mod lol.

Many such cases.

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020
Gypsy is the n word of Europe.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Tankbuster posted:

its weird because in the book the romani have the vibe that the romanians treat them kind of like black people in the US while every other axis member just wanted to genocide them outright.

Oh, I didn’t know we were talking about Irish Travellers. Yeah, it’s really something. They’ve been in Europe longer than the Hungarians and I think even Bulgarians so you’d think someone would have cut them a break by now.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

GBS had a famous thread about Travellers in the movie theatre and calling into a radio station or something (?) - the details are fuzzy but I remember the sweet sensitive posters really popped off about that particular group.



reddit too

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

the romanian tour guide who told us about vlad the impaler also told us about how pissed off the romanians were about a news article that said the romanian football team in some international match "played like skilled gypsys."

he said if kids got dirty playing outside, their parents would say that looked dirty "like a gypsy" and likewise everything else bad meant being "like a gyspy." it was a whole thing.

yeah, that's just normal speech in the balkans i think, it's pretty hosed up

my grandparents and people at school would constantly tell me i look like a gypsy because i was an outdoors kid that often managed to get dirty even on the way to school and ruined all my clothes in the forest and didn't care

this just confused the poo poo out of my child brain though because one of my best friends was always clean and proper and an actual gypsy

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

This got downvoted to oblivion on the ireland sub

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Frosted Flake posted:

Oh, I didn’t know we were talking about Irish Travellers. Yeah, it’s really something. They’ve been in Europe longer than the Hungarians and I think even Bulgarians so you’d think someone would have cut them a break by now.

Travellers in the UK and Ireland usually aren't related to Romani ethnically but they have a similar social position and status as scapegoat and target of bigotry yeah

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Frosted Flake posted:

This got downvoted to oblivion on the ireland sub



hell yeah 1350 rant but for irish it's like seeing a unicorn in the wild

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Truga posted:

yeah, that's just normal speech in the balkans i think, it's pretty hosed up

my grandparents and people at school would constantly tell me i look like a gypsy because i was an outdoors kid that often managed to get dirty even on the way to school and ruined all my clothes in the forest and didn't care

this just confused the poo poo out of my child brain though because one of my best friends was always clean and proper and an actual gypsy

Yeah, my grandmother also would do that. As far as I could tell without any rancor. Old KuK monarchy ftw. Now it's really not anything you'd say to your kids, but on the other hand the giant tabloids have been boiling brains for years with pretty vile racism against "gypsies" so overall a wash.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the hatred of travellers is not purely ethnic, it's also to a large extent sedentiary populations' contempt and rage at non-sedentiary populations which are perceived as breaching the basic social contract.

this of course spills over into racialised hate very easily and frequently, sometimes in weird ways - in norway, a lot of the foreign-born roma carry romanian passports and so a lot of the racism gets extended to romanians in general. meanwhile the "indigenous" travelling population, the romani/tater people, have been getting sort of pushed out of the public imagination and while there is still real bigotry there it's much less than what it used to be.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

genericnick posted:

Old KuK monarchy ftw.

Don’t the Scandinavians also hate the Sami? I think they had residential schools and everything. Obviously that’s really informed a lot of the experience with oppression Amber brought to Chapo.

e: This was one of the least horrifying comments on an askreddit thread “are gypsies that bad”

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

V. Illych L. posted:

the hatred of travellers is not purely ethnic, it's also to a large extent sedentiary populations' contempt and rage at non-sedentiary populations which are perceived as breaching the basic social contract.

this of course spills over into racialised hate very easily and frequently, sometimes in weird ways - in norway, a lot of the foreign-born roma carry romanian passports and so a lot of the racism gets extended to romanians in general. meanwhile the "indigenous" travelling population, the romani/tater people, have been getting sort of pushed out of the public imagination and while there is still real bigotry there it's much less than what it used to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB2LxMRrG4I&t=2645s

"No government likes minorities. No government, because they believe that minorities are not loyal to their own government, because they do not like to be ruled by a different ethnic group, so no government likes minorities."

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Its basically ethnic hatred as folk wisdom. Mincéirí (Irish travellers) and Romani have basically never had any meaningful representation in the organs of the states that they exist in. Afaict the only political project that would have addressed their existence by default, and represented them appropriately would have been Maoism. We didn't get Maoism in northern europe, we got empire, liberal democracy and War. As it stands they have remained as stateless or inter-national ethnic/cultural groups that aren't belonging to any one state and there for are not really anyone's responsibility. The state violence inflicted upon them, passively, is rooted in the aforementioned folkloric accepted wisdom of the populations of these states.

Mincéirí have been on the receiving end of Oppression with Irish Characteristics since before the formation of the state and when, we had our essentially petty bourgeois revolution they had no seat at the table, and never did. Things have improved somewhat over the course of my lifetime with increased government spending on halting sites and other infrastructure and education. However the state still shrugs its shoulders wrt to the healthcare and welfare of people from the travelling community. Irelands prisons are a case study in and of themselves of what a liberal state perpetuates in its function, which is to say Travellers are to the irish prison system as black people are to the american one.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Turtle Watch posted:

The Wrangel Island saga is pretty shameful, but very American:

In 1924, the Soviet Union removed the American and 13 Inuit (one was born on the island) of this settlement aboard the Krasny Oktyabr (Red October). Wells subsequently died of pneumonia in Vladivostok during a diplomatic American-Soviet row about an American boundary marker on the Siberian coast, and so did an Inuit child. The others were deported from Vladivostok to the Chinese border post Suifenhe, but the Chinese government did not want to accept them as the American consul in Harbin told them the Inuit were not American citizens. Later, the American government came up with a statement that the Inuit were 'wards' of the United States, but that there were no funds for returning them. Eventually, the American Red Cross came up with $1600 for their return. They subsequently moved through Dalian, Kobe and Seattle (where another Inuit child drowned during the wait for the return trip to Alaska) back to Nome.[39]

And of course in the hands of a Wall Street good this is turned into the USSR invading and occupying US soil and genociding good, honest American frontiersmen... Pretty distasteful!

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

The Rhodesia nerds are so funny because Rhodesia only became this sentimental portrait of a lost world decades after Zimbabwe was formed and the exiles had enough time to stew. The real Rhodesia was much more like an Agrarian Fort MacMurray or Norilsk. The majority of it's noble whites were economic migrants, who were entered the country to earn inflated wages for a few years and then hosed off to do something else. The wages were inflated because Rhodesia's segregated society was designed around simple exploitative principles, the government spent very little servicing the black population, while drawing on them as cheap labour for white-owned farms and industries.

That's it. The reality of the country and the conflict is actually just boring. Rhodesia fought an extended guerilla war and lost, and the death toll was like 20,000 people. In Angola, a country with roughly the same population, over 1 million died. But ofc the post-fascist schizos and hysteric liberals fixate on Rhodesia, precisely because it's leftover material from Soldier of War magazine rather than a conflict with more substance.

It stands as an idealised example of the kind of neo-Confederate society White Nazis in America and worldwide dream about. Stanning Rhodesia is about White Supremacy under the guise of "military history", same as Wehraboos... But like you say it's still good and important to laugh at how pathetic one of the greatest experiments in White Supremacy state-building turned out to be.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


V. Illych L. posted:

the hatred of travellers is not purely ethnic, it's also to a large extent sedentiary populations' contempt and rage at non-sedentiary populations which are perceived as breaching the basic social contract.

To expand on this point, they do this by for example:

"Not working" - The traditional role of a "tinker" in society was mending pots and pans, also work related to horses and logistics and so on. The modern era destroyed this role in society, laissez faire style and replaced it with nothing, with no work and no position in Europes quite rigid social hierarchies, criminality is inevitable as a means to an end. The end being, not starving.

They have been ignored by the states that should be creating the conditions that the people need to thrive, but there is no political will for such a project outside of the careers of left activist politicians like Michael D Higgins.

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Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Frosted Flake posted:

This got downvoted to oblivion on the ireland sub



Reddit is representative of the worst normies, no matter what the subject or location.

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