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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Arnt they also separated from politics of the Russian state much like Erik Princes backwater goons and all those ex special forces in the US are (in that they sell books and show up on TV as taking heads). Unlike Azov which runs children's camps and have a political party. So on scale of S to SS they a just a S?
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Nov 14, 2022 03:48
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Al-Saqr posted:Looks like Ukraine is gonna turn Kherson into a military fortress/outpost, no civilians:- kherson unproper
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Nov 14, 2022 03:49
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ughhhh posted:Arnt they also separated from politics of the Russian state much like Erik Princes backwater goons and all those ex special forces in the US are (in that they sell books and show up on TV as taking heads). Unlike Azov which runs children's camps and have a political party. So on scale of S to SS they a just a S? They aren't or more specifically Prigozhin isn't. He is obviously using the PMC to advance his personal political goals and whatever other ambitions he has, whether the PMC itself has other political ambitions isn't a topic that I've seen come up. So I guess yeah it's pretty much exactly like Erik Prince.
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Nov 14, 2022 03:53
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ughhhh posted:Arnt they also separated from politics of the Russian state much like Erik Princes backwater goons and all those ex special forces in the US are (in that they sell books and show up on TV as taking heads). Unlike Azov which runs children's camps and have a political party. So on scale of S to SS they a just a S? hard to compare it to azov, as poster above said, Wagner is detached from Russian military organizationally, but the leaders are tightly woven into Russian government, so it's no stretch to say Wagner is only separate because it suits their interests to keep it that way and not for any "nice" reason
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Nov 14, 2022 03:57
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Post soviet Russia is the reflection of USA looking back at it. You see yourself and you hate it.
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Nov 14, 2022 03:59
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ughhhh posted:Arnt they also separated from politics of the Russian state much like Erik Princes backwater goons and all those ex special forces in the US are (in that they sell books and show up on TV as taking heads). Unlike Azov which runs children's camps and have a political party. So on scale of S to SS they a just a S? The National Corps has no representation in the Rada and afaik Azov's Youth Corps is not affiliated with the state in any way. Azov does have ties to the state obviously but not really in those ways.
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Nov 14, 2022 03:59
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That's true, not all nazis in Ukrainian government are linked to Azov. https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1387651437568663553
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Nov 14, 2022 04:05
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Where are the conscripts or everything is just in a holding pattern due to winter?
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Nov 14, 2022 04:07
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Mr Hootington posted:Where are the conscripts or everything is just in a holding pattern due to winter? last update from Putin said 30% of them were deployed
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Nov 14, 2022 04:09
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Mr Hootington posted:Where are the conscripts or everything is just in a holding pattern due to winter? half of them are probably already dead
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Nov 14, 2022 04:10
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Mr Hootington posted:Where are the conscripts or everything is just in a holding pattern due to winter? the holding pattern is when the conscripts actually show up to the critically undermanned front. ukraine is probably redeploying to zaporizihia or Donetsk than trying to force a crossing around Kherson
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Nov 14, 2022 04:14
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Makes sense.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:15
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the degree to which Russia has hosed up this entire war can no longer be understated
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Nov 14, 2022 04:15
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so do all these nazi enthusiasts actually believe in making a national socialist government or are they just liberal edgelords
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Nov 14, 2022 04:15
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the drive to Kiev is going to go down as one of the greatest military blunders of all time
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Nov 14, 2022 04:18
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they will sell everything off to the EU.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:18
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The conscripts are being captured by Ukraine and sent right back at the Russians
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Nov 14, 2022 04:19
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the drive to Kiev is going to go down as one of the greatest military blunders of all time because it wasn't a military decision at all, it was political
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Nov 14, 2022 04:20
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personally I think this whole war is freaking bullshit. russia didn't even have the good controller
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Nov 14, 2022 04:21
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Bro Dad posted:personally I think this whole war is freaking bullshit. russia didn't even have the good controller Clinton to yeltsin in 1996: we’ll keep you in power but you have to play with the madkatz controller
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Nov 14, 2022 04:22
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Rutibex posted:so do all these nazi enthusiasts actually believe in making a national socialist government or are they just liberal edgelords I watched bits of a talk by a neo-nazi about the 2014 coup and the impression I got was he was interested in forming a society in keeping with his ideology but keeping a liberal government in power and that this was seen as a more efficient way of achieving his goals.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:22
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Clinton to yeltsin in 1996: we’ll keep you in power but you have to play with the madkatz controller hah, I remember those.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:24
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Clinton to yeltsin in 1996: we’ll keep you in power but you have to play with the madkatz controller imagine trying to fortify your position with a dead thumbstick
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Nov 14, 2022 04:25
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Looks like Nuzhin was returned to Russia as part of a prisoner exchange, so the Russian government (via the military) got him and handed him over to Wagner.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:26
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Clinton to yeltsin in 1996: we’ll keep you in power but you have to play with the madkatz controller thats why they call her killary
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Nov 14, 2022 04:28
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GlassElephant posted:Looks like Nuzhin was returned to Russia as part of a prisoner exchange, so the Russian government (via the military) got him and handed him over to Wagner. i read some pretty wild sounding stories about him being claimed as a double agent who was supposed to infiltrate Ukraine's Russian defector brigade (same guys claiming responsibility for terrorist attacks on the opposite side of Russia). As in, Wagner sent him to infiltrate the defector brigade but Ukraine turned him double agent. Probably all bullshit but there's lots of crazy stuff floating around. e: these guys, who are totally real and not a Ukrainian op https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
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Nov 14, 2022 04:29
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I don't think you need to make up a conspiracy for a PMC executing a convict that they expected to die instead of surrendering.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:34
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speng31b posted:Wagner's pretty dang high on the Nazi scale, this is the dude that founded them and they are filled with similar ilk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Utkin quote:Utkin, who reportedly has a passion for the history of the Third Reich,[17] had the call-sign Wagner, allegedly in honour of Richard Wagner. lmao the nerdiest strain of nazi to boot
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Nov 14, 2022 04:35
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Horizon Burning posted:Like seriously how pathetic do you have to be to breathlessly rush in here about the evils of Wagner PMC while ukraine is going on about the evil Russian soldier staybehinds who are pretending to be civilians and kindergarten teachers or whatever I'd guess glasselephant approves of the purges and is trying to deflect attention.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:36
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Lostconfused posted:I don't think you need to make up a conspiracy for a PMC executing a convict that they expected to die instead of surrendering. its not about need, they do it for the love of the game
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Nov 14, 2022 04:40
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speng31b posted:i read some pretty wild sounding stories about him being claimed as a double agent who was supposed to infiltrate Ukraine's Russian defector brigade (same guys claiming responsibility for terrorist attacks on the opposite side of Russia). As in, Wagner sent him to infiltrate the defector brigade but Ukraine turned him double agent. Probably all bullshit but there's lots of crazy stuff floating around. Those stories match up with one of the versions of why he was handed over. Gulagu.net posted:Gulagu.net's source in the "PMC Wagner": "We took Nuzhin. Evgeny Viktorovich, through his connections in the General Staff and the FSB, set a condition - to take Nuzhin and return him at any cost. The counterintelligence forces planted disinformation to the Ukrainian side that Nuzhin was allegedly a double agent and wanted to infiltrate the "Legion" in order to carry out intelligence work. As a result, they sowed doubts, + Nuzhin did not pass the polygraph. At this time our people imposed a condition - all exchanges are stopped until Nuzhin is handed over. After some deliberation a decision was made in Kiev. After that Prigozhin himself is waiting for the second star of Hero of Russia and walks very happy. But the effect is the opposite. Many of our people realized that it was time to leave, we will not take part in such lawlessness anymore.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:40
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GlassElephant posted:Those stories match up with one of the versions of why he was handed over. Can you or someone break this down in a very simple way for me? I'm trying to follow the story but haven't been able to put everything together (too tired).
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Nov 14, 2022 04:46
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NeatHeteroDude posted:Can you or someone break this down in a very simple way for me? I'm trying to follow the story but haven't been able to put everything together (too tired). A nazi group killed a man with a sledgehammer.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:48
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Bro Dad posted:personally I think this whole war is freaking bullshit. russia didn't even have the good controller loving Zelensky always plays as Oddjob. It's such bullshit.
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Nov 14, 2022 04:51
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Dixon Chisholm posted:A nazi group killed a man with a sledgehammer. why did he have a sledgehammer
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Nov 14, 2022 04:55
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Calibanibal posted:why did he have a sledgehammer It's can break through light cover
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Nov 14, 2022 05:03
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Calibanibal posted:why did he have a sledgehammer god of war ragnarok unlocked, probably
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Nov 14, 2022 05:05
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Calibanibal posted:why did he have a sledgehammer I don't understand the ways of orcs.
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Nov 14, 2022 05:09
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when all you have is a sledgehammer, everything looks like a thing you can hit with a sledgehammer
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Nov 14, 2022 05:13
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snape kills dumbledore isnt really a spoiler imo its why he kills dumbledore thats interesting so why people act all beat up
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