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Jagged Jim posted:Lies and slander. I’ve heard that there is actual child abuse images encoded in text added to the blockchain. (I think you can comment or write something when you make a transaction? Idk) The way blockchain works is that every computer involved has a full copy of the entire blockchain, and the truth of transaction history across the network is verified by consensus among those machines. I *think* that means anyone with a copy of the Bitcoin blockchain is in possession of csam - albeit not in actual image form.
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Yes everyone who mines Bitcoin has a link to child abuse imagery on their blockchain. It's just one of those things they can't do anything about except kill the link target because the blockchain can only be added to, never deleted.
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Nov 14, 2022 00:33
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Kwyndig posted:Man they really need to work on their cars before they start adding all this auto drive bullshit that keeps getting people killed. Like take it easy and teach the car to parallel park first, then when it has that down add finding its own parking space instead of this no hands on the wheel on turbo mode nonsense.  v
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pumpinglemma posted:Completely agreed in spirit, but automatic parallel parking specifically has been around for about a decade now. Generally it doesn’t involve speeding up to 200mph and going on a murderous rampage, but I guess Musk is just innovative that way. v Auto parallel parking is much harder without ultrasonic sensors, which a 2009 Ford Focus may have, but a 2023 Tesla Model Y does not.
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Nov 14, 2022 00:56
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Twerk from Home posted:Auto parallel parking is much harder without ultrasonic sensors, which a 2009 Ford Focus may have, but a 2023 Tesla Model Y does not. Yeah Musk hates sensors for some reason and will only let his engineers put video cameras on his precious cars even though video is a terrible sensor because of lags in throughput and immense processing power to tell apart stop signs from children.
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so stupid, a video camera is just a sensor of a certain type
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If I were building a Tesla I'd put all the sensors it would need to parallel park, stationkeep, auto pilot, and yes even drive to you (although I wouldn't enable it for at least a couple more years). So a mix of lidar, ultrasonic, cameras, and infrared.
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PhazonLink posted:the birdpost mentioned that the car was trying to park itself and then from some reason switched to supa go fast mode. From the swerving around in the video of the event, it looks a lot more to me like a classic case of "old or low-skill driver stomps full force on the accelerator while thinking they're pressing the brake", as amplified by the infinite torque and massive acceleration of a Tesla. According the NHTSA there are 16,000 cases per year in the US across all car models, and there have been something like 100-plus of them with Teslas alone that were all verified by the NHTSA to be driver error.
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Kwyndig posted:If I were building a Tesla I'd put all the sensors it would need to parallel park, stationkeep, auto pilot, and yes even drive to you (although I wouldn't enable it for at least a couple more years). So a mix of lidar, ultrasonic, cameras, and infrared. How many apartheid emerald mines did your dad own?
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Kwyndig posted:Yeah Musk hates sensors for some reason and will only let his engineers put video cameras on his precious cars even though video is a terrible sensor because of lags in throughput and immense processing power to tell apart stop signs from children. you have got to be loving kidding me I don't know how this is what got me to lose my poo poo re Tesla car decisions but if this is the case it's absolutely loving insane (and also presumably an Elon decision because let me tell you, the engineers i work with love sensors, the more numerous the better)
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also as a driver, as much as I love backup cameras, the most important thing for my user experience and not causing accidents is the simple rear end detectors that beep at you if an object is relevant to you
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I have a dashcam and it has the capability to do certain "driver alerts" and, boy howdy, can a camera not tell what the gently caress is happening. "Traffic is moving again!" Uh, no, I'm backing into a parking space, camera. That's why it looks like the car in front of me is getting further away!
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Nov 14, 2022 02:23
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GreyjoyBastard posted:you have got to be loving kidding me Musk seems to believe that since humans are capable of driving without radar and lidar and ultrasonic sensors, a sufficiently smart self-driving system should be able to as well. Also, most of the time when Musk or other Tesla execs talk about this, they mention the difficulty of sensor fusion and the cost savings of dropping other sensors, so I suspect those are the real reasoning. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1380796939151704071
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Nov 14, 2022 02:26
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When radar and vision disagree I definitely pick radar, vision is poo poo. This is why air traffic controllers have radars, jesus christ, has he even thought his stupid argument through? EDIT: Or, more accurately, you trust whichever one tells you most reliably that there's a problem in a given situation. Sometimes this can be vision, but more often, it's advanced sensors like radar.
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I guess it's only 90% insane in the sense of autopilot
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It's pretty frustrating how years later nobody is even denying that Hyperloop was just a strategy to kill public transit and get some free money to boot, but people still think this self-driving or electric car stuff is in any way fundamentally different. At least the subway-but-for-cars system never actually killed anybody. That I'm aware of at least. Musk isn't even the first freak who realized that if you make a car that is exceptionally likely to kill people in a way you can reliably get away with it will sell like crazy to Americans.
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What's the model of pickup or whatever that just gets less and less pedestrian friendly as the years go by?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What's the model of pickup or whatever that just gets less and less pedestrian friendly as the years go by?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What's the model of pickup or whatever that just gets less and less pedestrian friendly as the years go by? You'd be hard pressed to find one that isn't. Even foreign makers' pickups look like an electric razor boss from an anime now.
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Roadie posted:From the swerving around in the video of the event, it looks a lot more to me like a classic case of "old or low-skill driver stomps full force on the accelerator while thinking they're pressing the brake", as amplified by the infinite torque and massive acceleration of a Tesla. According the NHTSA there are 16,000 cases per year in the US across all car models, and there have been something like 100-plus of them with Teslas alone that were all verified by the NHTSA to be driver error. The brake lights are lit up basically the whole time.
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I'm curious why you can't just shut off the power of the tesla is barreling out of control. I have a vehicle with push button ignition and in addition to simply depressing the start button to shut it off, there rapid taps (like, you know mashing a button in a panic) will also shut off the ignition.
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Epic High Five posted:At least the subway-but-for-cars system never actually killed anybody. only because it was never built and used in any real capacity. the thing was a loving deathtrap
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Shadowlyger posted:The brake lights are lit up basically the whole time. arnt breaks suppose to be multitimes more powerful than the motor? so autopilot either can "purposely" do something stupid, or it glitches something stupid.
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Panfilo posted:I'm curious why you can't just shut off the power of the tesla is barreling out of control. I have a vehicle with push button ignition and in addition to simply depressing the start button to shut it off, there rapid taps (like, you know mashing a button in a panic) will also shut off the ignition. counterpoint: the “autopilot” should have had a shutdown once the meat puppet held the brakes all the way down people babysitting autopilot aren’t pressing the brake to the floor because it’s coming in a few mph hot
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Epic High Five posted:It's pretty frustrating how years later nobody is even denying that Hyperloop was just a strategy to kill public transit and get some free money to boot, but people still think this self-driving or electric car stuff is in any way fundamentally different. At least the subway-but-for-cars system never actually killed anybody. That I'm aware of at least. Musk isn't even the first freak who realized that if you make a car that is exceptionally likely to kill people in a way you can reliably get away with it will sell like crazy to Americans. What the gently caress? Did Hyperloop actually get any public money? How did it have any strategy beyond milking VC?
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PhazonLink posted:arnt breaks suppose to be multitimes more powerful than the motor? Teslas are the fastest accelerating cars on the planet, significantly faster than exotic cars like Lamborghinis. The faster trims are one of a handful of vehicles that can go 0-60 faster than 60-0, in the company of motorcycles and drag-prepped cars.
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dont most cars also have software based limiters? driving 100+ mph on the highway would be a rare as poo poo need, never mind 200.
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StumblyWumbly posted:What the gently caress? Did Hyperloop actually get any public money? How did it have any strategy beyond milking VC? I don't know if it did but I wouldn't be surprised, the VC milking is the free money I was referring to. You couldn't have hoped for a better combination of buzzwords to convince techno utopianists to shovel money at you. They've been doing the whole "bus/tram but no poors" stuff for longer than I've been alive so must've thought "what if a subway....but for your car" was Einstein level brilliant.
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StumblyWumbly posted:What the gently caress? Did Hyperloop actually get any public money? How did it have any strategy beyond milking VC? To be fair, americans will take ANY excuse to not build rail or decent public transportation. You could walk to any mayor or either party and say "gently caress subways, I have this supply of Floo powder. Yeah, the Harry Potter thing. You can sell it to people, just throw some in your fireplace and you go wherever you want to without having to potentially be in the same moving compartment as a brown person!" And they would step on the throats of their children to buy it. It would revitalize the fireplace industry, who cares if it works!
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Didn't they build a tiny car tunnel in Vegas
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GreyjoyBastard posted:also as a driver, as much as I love backup cameras, the most important thing for my user experience and not causing accidents is the simple rear end detectors that beep at you if an object is relevant to you When I bought my last car, I spent about a grand getting reversing sensors. I barely even pay attention to them any more because I also spent  buying a reversing mirror like this which works so much better:
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Ruffian Price posted:Didn't they build a tiny car tunnel in Vegas That's just a regular tunnel. Hyperloop in its form that was most consistently sold to people was a 2,000 mile long pressurized tube. Anything else it was you don't need to worry about, just knowing that is enough.
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Ruffian Price posted:Didn't they build a tiny car tunnel in Vegas Yes it exists there. It's very dumb.
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 imagine a tunnel fire in this thing. or just the mechanism breaking down. You Will Die
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And it's always so much dumber than you think it is. https://twitter.com/pixelnull/status/1479086874140594176
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Megillah Gorilla posted:When I bought my last car, I spent about a grand getting reversing sensors. I barely even pay attention to them any more because I also spent Hey I wanted to PM you about that mirror but couldn't. How well do they work at night? I wanted something like that for my older car and felt it was overkill to install a rear camera and head unit that would work with one.
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isnt Boring Company also a musk company that also only does hyperloops? Also the fact that musk and his rat think that word play is universe brain level poo poo pisses me off.
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StumblyWumbly posted:What the gently caress? Did Hyperloop actually get any public money? How did it have any strategy beyond milking VC? He never really intended to make any money on it in the first place - or even to build it. Much like the Tesla humanoid robot, it was more of a PR stunt designed to get his name and his companies in the news, rather than a serious proposal. It was an exciting moonshot ideas-guy proposal that served mostly to get people interested in his company so that they'd be more likely to accept the much less exciting car tunnels bullshit he was actually selling. It's one of his signature tricks. Fundamentally, it's not much different from promising that robotaxis and coast-to-coast totally unmanned driving are just around the corner so that gullible nerds will put up with shoddily-built cars that regularly try to kill them. Another signature trick is self-dealing. SpaceX just bought an uncharacteristically large ad spot on Twitter to advertise Starlink. Not a ton of money in the grand scheme of things (only about a quarter million bucks), but when Twitter has driven off most of its advertisers and is badly hurting for cash flow, it sure is convenient that another Musk-owned company suddenly decided to go hard on Twitter ads.
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PhazonLink posted:isnt Boring Company also a musk company that also only does hyperloops? Yeah, the Boring company is a Musk enterprise, but Hyperloop was just kind of something he theorized and tossed out into the world without taking it any further himself. There's a number of non-Musk companies that are working on it but the passenger test results are pretty pitiful, like 500m at 170km/h. The only thing the Boring Company has accomplished are the Tesla tunnels you see in the posts above. We're supposed to be getting an update on Neuralink at the end of the month for maximum monkey killing too. Stexils posted:imagine a tunnel fire in this thing. or just the mechanism breaking down. You Will Die A good reminder that more people have burned to death in Teslas than in Ford Pintos, both about the same number of cars sold (~3M). https://www.tesla-fire.com/ and 15 autopilot deaths https://www.tesladeaths.com/ BeeSeeBee fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Nov 14, 2022 |
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