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BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Trabant posted:

I'd argue it's more masturbatory than incestuous.

Fair

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MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Masturbation with layers.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

If you gently caress a clone of yourself is it incest or is it masturbation?

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

FreudianSlippers posted:

If you gently caress a clone of yourself is it incest or is it masturbation?

Doesn't exactly apply in this situation.

Abugadu
Jul 12, 2004

1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.
*adjusts cowboy hat, tunes guitar*

Oh give me a clone, of my own flesh and bone
With the Y chromosome changed to an X
And when I'm alone, with my own little clone
we will both think of nothing but sex

Why should such sex vex, or disturb or perplex
Or induce a disparaging tone
For why can't you see, we're just both of us me
So when I bone my clone prone, I'm alone

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Abugadu posted:

*adjusts cowboy hat, tunes guitar*

Oh give me a clone, of my own flesh and bone
With the Y chromosome changed to an X
And when I'm alone, with my own little clone
we will both think of nothing but sex

Why should such sex vex, or disturb or perplex
Or induce a disparaging tone
For why can't you see, we're just both of us me
So when I bone my clone prone, I'm alone

'ts more like

Time, time sure is strange
When my own junk has gone all astray
And I don't get the word that this timeline's absurd
But hermaphroditism's not gay

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
'Dreadnought' means 'fears nothing'. Super super obvious but I just never stopped and thought about it before.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
^ I see someone just watched Adam Savage's latest video.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.

Trabant posted:

^ I see someone just watched Adam Savage's latest video.

Fuckin called out

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Yeah well I've seen his butthole

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

'Dreadnought' means 'fears nothing'. Super super obvious but I just never stopped and thought about it before.

And the successor, "battleship", comes from "line of battle ship".

...but that's not actually all that interesting, in retrospect. Um, um... ok, the warship class called "destroyer", which sounds super badass, is just a contraction of "torpedo boat destroyer". When the torpedo was invented, naval folks collectively crapped their pants because for the first time you could have extremely cheap, small vessels carrying weapons that could threaten extremely expensive, enormous, national-prestige-level ships. So they developed a class of warship specifically for escorting the extremely big expensive warships and protecting them against torpedo boats. When submarines were invented, they morphed into defending against this new threat too, specialising in detecting and destroying submarines.

They're smaller escort vessels. Their job isn't to gently caress up anything sailing the ocean blue, it's to protect holy-gently caress-expensive vessels like aircraft carriers or battleships. Or supply convoys.

It always annoys me when a sci-fi goes for naval names for classes of war spacecraft and includes "destroyer" as a big scary fucker-uperer. Or, alternatively, uses it when they want a smallish general escort vessel, when they could use the perfectly good term "frigate".

Honestly, I think the best use of it would be an anti cloaking vessel escort, since cloaking is so common in sci-fi and is a pretty good analogue for submarines! Still waiting for someone to do that.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
Conan The Destroyer is about him guarding a princess whose sacrifice will bring about the end of the world, so that’s accurate at least.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Trabant posted:

^ I see someone just watched Adam Savage's latest video.

gently caress
:negative:

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Hyperlynx posted:

And the successor, "battleship", comes from "line of battle ship".

...but that's not actually all that interesting, in retrospect. Um, um... ok, the warship class called "destroyer", which sounds super badass, is just a contraction of "torpedo boat destroyer". When the torpedo was invented, naval folks collectively crapped their pants because for the first time you could have extremely cheap, small vessels carrying weapons that could threaten extremely expensive, enormous, national-prestige-level ships. So they developed a class of warship specifically for escorting the extremely big expensive warships and protecting them against torpedo boats. When submarines were invented, they morphed into defending against this new threat too, specialising in detecting and destroying submarines.

It's an interesting problem, defending against torpedo boats in the late 19th century. Everything's so slow. They didn't have speedboats; they didn't even have internal combustion engines. Torpedo boats had steam engines on them and weren't that much faster than the ships they were trying to take out. But the guns were also ludicrously slow and hard to aim. Plus, we're still in the era where after you've fired your guns once or twice, you're covered in thick smoke and can't see a drat thing, such as e.g. whether or not you hit your target. Destroyers had numerous advantages in anti-torpedo-boat duty: they were smaller, faster, and more maneuverable than your battleships, they had smaller, faster guns, they could hopefully intercept the torpedo boats before they got close enough to the battleship to shoot at it, and of course, being cheaper, they were less appealing targets for torpedoes themselves.

As terrible as early torpedoes were (and they were pretty terrible), it's still clear they were a legitimate threat to your average warship. Navies tried a bunch of different defenses. One of them was to fit every warship with anti-torpedo netting, which was attached to booms on the side of the ship. When the ship was in harbor (parked, thus easy to plan attacks around), it would swing the booms out with the idea that they'd catch torpedoes before they could strike the hull. Of course, weapons manufacturers responded by adding net-cutting capabilities to their torpedoes.

I could go on about this...one notable evolution in WW2 was the "manned torpedo", which is basically a submersible motorboat ridden by frogmen. They ride it in close to the target, attach mines to the hull, then make their escape. They were used successfully in the Raid on Alexandria, but the Italian military failed to capitalize on their success. All of the frogmen that carried out the attack were captured, and the harbor at Alexandria was so shallow that the damaged ships didn't visibly sink. So the Royal Navy just quietly pretended they were still fully operational while carrying out repairs.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Hyperlynx posted:


It always annoys me when a sci-fi goes for naval names for classes of war spacecraft and includes "destroyer" as a big scary fucker-uperer. Or, alternatively, uses it when they want a smallish general escort vessel, when they could use the perfectly good term "frigate".



that's just a star wars problem because lucas is an innocent child who just thought about a big triangle shooting the sun which would be scary

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Regarde Aduck posted:

that's just a star wars problem because lucas is an innocent child who just thought about a big triangle shooting the sun which would be scary

It would be, and I was disappointed when I found out that's not what they do :(

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Stellaris calls 'em destroyers. So did Wing Commander, and that even had cloaked torpedo bombers as a plot point.

Funnily enough, in the movies they refer to star destroyers as "Imperial cruisers" more than once, and "cruiser" is a pretty accurate designation (that or battleship, I guess).

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Hyperlynx posted:

And the successor, "battleship", comes from "line of battle ship".

...but that's not actually all that interesting, in retrospect. Um, um... ok, the warship class called "destroyer", which sounds super badass, is just a contraction of "torpedo boat destroyer". When the torpedo was invented, naval folks collectively crapped their pants because for the first time you could have extremely cheap, small vessels carrying weapons that could threaten extremely expensive, enormous, national-prestige-level ships. So they developed a class of warship specifically for escorting the extremely big expensive warships and protecting them against torpedo boats. When submarines were invented, they morphed into defending against this new threat too, specialising in detecting and destroying submarines.

They're smaller escort vessels. Their job isn't to gently caress up anything sailing the ocean blue, it's to protect holy-gently caress-expensive vessels like aircraft carriers or battleships. Or supply convoys.

It always annoys me when a sci-fi goes for naval names for classes of war spacecraft and includes "destroyer" as a big scary fucker-uperer. Or, alternatively, uses it when they want a smallish general escort vessel, when they could use the perfectly good term "frigate".

Honestly, I think the best use of it would be an anti cloaking vessel escort, since cloaking is so common in sci-fi and is a pretty good analogue for submarines! Still waiting for someone to do that.

Star Destroyers protecting the Super Star Destroyer. WHAT IS THE BIGGER ONE DEFENDING??

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

MariusLecter posted:

Star Destroyers protecting the Super Star Destroyer. WHAT IS THE BIGGER ONE DEFENDING??



What would you classify the Death Star II as? Presumably it's a carrier like the original Death Star was, so the closest analogue would probably be something like Project Habakkuk (a WW2 project to make an "unsinkable" giant aircraft carrier out of ice and wood fiber). But they both feel more like siege weapons than anything else.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.
It somehow never once, through 11 star wars movies and over two decades, crossed my mind that "star destroyer" might be etymologically derived from the naval ship type "destroyer." Perhaps because, ever since playing the board game Battleship as a kid, I've always known "destroyer" as "the smallest kind of ship."

MariusLecter posted:

WHAT IS THE BIGGER ONE DEFENDING??

the second death star.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I want to see a Star Wars movie where the rebels have to use a torpedo ram against the imperials

*sits back and waits seconds for several examples*

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



theres a danish class of warship called krydser (which is cognate to cruiser), ive always assumed it came from them being able to cross the waters fastly against the wind due to sail geometry, change directions & what not?

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ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Yes and then Cruiser evolved to meaning fast ship that can achieve useful things independently, ie raid or patrol or scout etc. Frigates used to be the older age-of-sail term mainly used for these vessels.

We should note that English language nautical classifications is mostly sourced from the Royal Navy with a cultural switch to US Navy terms of art during and post-WW2. NATO carried some weight with spreading US language conformity since.

Kantesu
Apr 21, 2010

Brawnfire posted:

I want to see a Star Wars movie where the rebels have to use a torpedo ram against the imperials

*sits back and waits seconds for several examples*

Remind me again how they destroyed the first Death Star

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

Yes and then Cruiser evolved to meaning fast ship that can achieve useful things independently, ie raid or patrol or scout etc. Frigates used to be the older age-of-sail term mainly used for these vessels.

We should note that English language nautical classifications is mostly sourced from the Royal Navy with a cultural switch to US Navy terms of art during and post-WW2. NATO carried some weight with spreading US language conformity since.

to add: yacht means "hunt" ie very fast, due to its small size lmao

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
Did you know the Dutch word for "ship" kind of sounds like "skip"?

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

I went looking in that bastion of Star Wars knowledge Wookieepedia to see what it has to say, and it classifies the regular Star Destroyers from the movie (eg the one in the very beginning that chases Princess Leia's ship) as both cruisers and destroyers, because

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Anaxes_War_College_System

quote:

According to this system, ships were divided into seven main classifications; these were corvettes (100-200 meters), frigates (200-400 meters), cruisers (400-600 meters), heavy cruisers (600-1,200 meters), destroyers (1,000-2,000 meters), battlecruisers (2,000-5,000 meters), and dreadnoughts (+5,000 meters).
:doh:

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Brawnfire posted:

I want to see a Star Wars movie where the rebels have to use a torpedo ram against the imperials

*sits back and waits seconds for several examples*

They did the ww2 style bomber run, that was unironically really cool.

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

MariusLecter posted:

They did the ww2 style bomber run, that was unironically really cool.

I think it was directly influenced by the dam busters raid.

Actually it looks like the scene took a lot of influence from the movie about the dam busters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDS26pCUfgg

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Hyperlynx posted:

I think it was directly influenced by the dam busters raid.

Actually it looks like the scene took a lot of influence from the movie about the dam busters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDS26pCUfgg

Meant the Last Jedi opening battle, but that is also true.

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

What would you classify the Death Star II as?
It is a Tokyo Bay Fortress

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Ok, but whats the sdf-1?

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

Tree Bucket posted:

What! I've been imagining some decades-old show called Inside Baseball. With a bunch of late middle aged guys smoking pipes while discussing McDichael's bat-strike returnage rate or something.

Were you ever exposed to this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sportswriters_on_TV

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
I don't know if this is something "I can't believe I just figured out" but we don't have like a "today I learned this neat thing" thread, do we?

Anyway, I work as a cashier at a 7-11, and this dude asks for a "glizzy." I ask him to repeat it, he does, I tell him I don't think we have that here, he gets very annoyed and says motherfucker I'm looking right at them. So I assume he's talking about the like honey buns or something in front of the counter, you know, because they're like glazed or whatever, but after another couple misunderstandings he violently informed me that a "glizzy" is a hot dog and "everyone loving knows this."

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Sounds like you need to research the throat goat obama, gulpin the most glizzies

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Yeah, I kind of figured the whole internet knew through memetic force. It's an intrusive thGLIZZYGULPERought for me by this point

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I only know the word "glizzy" because of a twitter account I found the other day that posts terrible meme hotdogs. It's a stupid word, and I feel justified in my hatred of it as an increasingly old person who doesn't like new things

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Baron von Eevl posted:

Sounds like you need to research the throat goat obama, gulpin the most glizzies

Oh, huh, I sort of assumed that meme was about dicks.

PancakeTransmission
May 27, 2007

You gotta improvise, Lisa: cloves, Tom Collins mix, frozen pie crust...


Plaster Town Cop

credburn posted:

I don't know if this is something "I can't believe I just figured out" but we don't have like a "today I learned this neat thing" thread, do we?

Anyway, I work as a cashier at a 7-11, and this dude asks for a "glizzy." I ask him to repeat it, he does, I tell him I don't think we have that here, he gets very annoyed and says motherfucker I'm looking right at them. So I assume he's talking about the like honey buns or something in front of the counter, you know, because they're like glazed or whatever, but after another couple misunderstandings he violently informed me that a "glizzy" is a hot dog and "everyone loving knows this."

quote:

A glizzy is a hot dog. It was originally a slang term for “gun” in the Washington D.C. metropolitan area (also known as the DMV), but according to HipHop DX, it became a nickname for hot dogs because the length of the barbecue staple is similar to the extended clip of a gun.
No doubt it's just the usual thing where white people (TikTok) latch onto urban slang and everyone else ( :okboomer: ) has no idea wtf

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Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys
The best slang term for any tube-shaped meat-derived fast food item is the Democracy Sausage.

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