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Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.
The other terrible thing about that is how many surveillance cameras that city apparently has.

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fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Woolwich Bagnet posted:

It's a Cali T.

Ahh cool. How do you find it? Cali T is such a massive improvement over the Cali it's not even funny.

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



fridge corn posted:

Ahh cool. How do you find it? Cali T is such a massive improvement over the Cali it's not even funny.

I've been enjoying it a lot, but it certainly has its pros and cons. It drives really well, even on long trips. I did a ~450 mile round trip in it and it just eats up the miles, and with the massive gas tank I wasn't having to stop constantly which was great. I don't have the adjustable suspension and it does just fine over bumps and uneven surfaces.

It gets a lot of attention despite being white, and since I almost always drive it with the top down I hear a lot of 'hey look a Ferrari' and people pointing and whatnot, but the sound is intoxicating above 3k RPM. Also people pulling up next to me and asking questions at stop lights, but they've all been really good natured. The biggest drawback is that living in a city I have to carefully plan my routes to make sure I'm not going through construction/massive potholes and be really vigilant. It's a bit terrifying to drive it with the top up, thanks to the terrible visibility.

It's also definitely at the line for street driveable cars with how insanely quick it is. Put your foot down and you're going license will be revoked speeds in seconds. It feels like driving a naturally aspirated car most of the time. The carbon ceramic brakes are amazing but the hard bite they have takes some getting used to. The transmission in it is very good as well, extremely responsive, though I wish they still made manuals.

I've done ~1200 miles in it over the last 5 months I've owned it, but it's going in to storage now until spring since we've finally hit winter weather. I will probably keep it for another year or so before I move on to something else. I have a feeling I'll look back fondly on it as the best car I ever owned.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Content warning on this one. You don't see anything in detail but holy gently caress...

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1591822506327158786?t=MlgWuKPWabPOLbrejNf94g&s=19

Gone. What was it?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Scratch Monkey posted:

Gone. What was it?

Twitter deleted content that makes Tesla look bad? How could such a thing happen?

coupedeville
Jan 1, 2012

MY ANACONDA DOM'T WANT NONE UNLESS U GOT CUM SON!
meh, just one of the perks of buying twitter :shrug:

rarbatrol
Apr 17, 2011

Hurt//maim//kill.

Scratch Monkey posted:

Gone. What was it?

IIRC it was a tesla taking 1 or 2 lives

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
I'd you really wanna see it
https://twitter.com/chiweethegod/status/1591856925767258112

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


"the driver did not step on the brakes all the way"

This has me wondering if it actually has enough brake to stop if the car itself decides to run the motors full pelt.

And like where is the safety system which cuts power when you step on the brake? Even go-karts have this.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Olympic Mathlete posted:

"the driver did not step on the brakes all the way"

This has me wondering if it actually has enough brake to stop if the car itself decides to run the motors full pelt.

And like where is the safety system which cuts power when you step on the brake? Even go-karts have this.

Tesla brakes are quite large so yeah, they could. For a bit.

To be honest I have real doubts it was the car just doing it's own thing. So many unintened acceleration issues have been traced back to drivers loving up but ..... that begs a really good question, in an unintended accleration incident it's relatively trivial to shut the car down with ICE, how exactly can you do a guarentteed shutdown of a EV without a direction selection switch? Or any real hardware override?

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Woolwich Bagnet posted:

I've been enjoying it a lot, but it certainly has its pros and cons. It drives really well, even on long trips. I did a ~450 mile round trip in it and it just eats up the miles, and with the massive gas tank I wasn't having to stop constantly which was great. I don't have the adjustable suspension and it does just fine over bumps and uneven surfaces.

It gets a lot of attention despite being white, and since I almost always drive it with the top down I hear a lot of 'hey look a Ferrari' and people pointing and whatnot, but the sound is intoxicating above 3k RPM. Also people pulling up next to me and asking questions at stop lights, but they've all been really good natured. The biggest drawback is that living in a city I have to carefully plan my routes to make sure I'm not going through construction/massive potholes and be really vigilant. It's a bit terrifying to drive it with the top up, thanks to the terrible visibility.

It's also definitely at the line for street driveable cars with how insanely quick it is. Put your foot down and you're going license will be revoked speeds in seconds. It feels like driving a naturally aspirated car most of the time. The carbon ceramic brakes are amazing but the hard bite they have takes some getting used to. The transmission in it is very good as well, extremely responsive, though I wish they still made manuals.

I've done ~1200 miles in it over the last 5 months I've owned it, but it's going in to storage now until spring since we've finally hit winter weather. I will probably keep it for another year or so before I move on to something else. I have a feeling I'll look back fondly on it as the best car I ever owned.

Yeah the Cali T is a great car. It's not without its issues of course but I feel it sometimes gets a bad rap for being associated with the original Cali, which was pretty much a complete disaster.

If you get a chance, before you get rid of it have a go in a Portofino, which manages to improve upon the Cali T in every conceivable way imo

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Tesla brakes are quite large so yeah, they could. For a bit.

To be honest I have real doubts it was the car just doing it's own thing. So many unintened acceleration issues have been traced back to drivers loving up but ..... that begs a really good question, in an unintended accleration incident it's relatively trivial to shut the car down with ICE, how exactly can you do a guarentteed shutdown of a EV without a direction selection switch? Or any real hardware override?

Except in Tesla's case, where they have a record.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1jqvXK-Q4Q

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
My Model 3 update. Still has not murdered me or anyone else, or fallen apart after almost four years.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

CommieGIR posted:

Except in Tesla's case, where they have a record.

Nowhere near as much as the terminally online want to believe and certainly not the outright crazy like this time.. Their FSD poo poo shouldn't be allowed sure but mostly because a wide range of utter idiots seem to think they can stop trying to drive the car and believe the deluded brain farts some dickhead billionaire sprays

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

My Model 3 update. Still has not murdered me or anyone else, or fallen apart after almost four years.

And that's terrible!

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Tesla brakes are quite large so yeah, they could. For a bit.

To be honest I have real doubts it was the car just doing it's own thing. So many unintened acceleration issues have been traced back to drivers loving up but ..... that begs a really good question, in an unintended accleration incident it's relatively trivial to shut the car down with ICE, how exactly can you do a guarentteed shutdown of a EV without a direction selection switch? Or any real hardware override?

I think I've said this before, but the way you engage auto pilot/adaptive cruise control really makes me think that the driver in this case accidentally engaged it, and then panicked and was mashing the gas instead of the brake pedal.

I was at a fast food drive-thru in our Model Y, and I thought I had the car in park. I went to tap the drive select stalk down to go into "drive" and accidentally double tapped it. Double tapping the stalk, while in "drive" will engage auto pilot. If you're on a freeway in stop-and-go traffic, it will stay in it's lane and drive up to the speed limit of the road. BUT, if you're in a drive-thru, with no lane markings, and at night, the car very briefly surged and almost took us into a cement barrier. I quickly stabbed the brake and shut it down, but it was spooky as hell.

Between that event and something about the lighting or shadows causing the car to slam on the brakes on a freeway with Auto-pilot engaged, I do not use it now in day-to-day driving. I will probably use it when we take the interstate or go on longer trips with no traffic, but it is absolutely not "fully-autonomous".

This isn't to say that other cars with adaptive cruise control and lane keep are faultless. The Mazda 3, a few years ago, was having issues with their adaptive cruise control and obstacle collision avoidance causing the car to slam on the brakes while at speed. However, Tesla going ALL IN on using only cameras and no other data for their cars definitely creates a lot of issues.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

MetaJew posted:

This isn't to say that other cars with adaptive cruise control and lane keep are faultless.

Ive said these before, but I had a rental freak out on the highway when it started raining and my mom's Honda likes to try and adjust to the right (aka wall) due to the shadows at a underpass. I have no trust in lane keep features seeing how often I've had issues with them compared to how infrequently I drive them.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

erm... actually thieves should be summarily executed

MetaJew posted:

I think I've said this before, but the way you engage auto pilot/adaptive cruise control really makes me think that the driver in this case accidentally engaged it, and then panicked and was mashing the gas instead of the brake pedal.

I was at a fast food drive-thru in our Model Y, and I thought I had the car in park. I went to tap the drive select stalk down to go into "drive" and accidentally double tapped it. Double tapping the stalk, while in "drive" will engage auto pilot. If you're on a freeway in stop-and-go traffic, it will stay in it's lane and drive up to the speed limit of the road. BUT, if you're in a drive-thru, with no lane markings, and at night, the car very briefly surged and almost took us into a cement barrier. I quickly stabbed the brake and shut it down, but it was spooky as hell.

this is an unbelievably stupid user interface and it should be recalled.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

Sagebrush posted:

this is an unbelievably stupid user interface and it should be recalled.

Agreed. When another vehicle charging network finally becomes competitive, we will likely sell the Model Y and get a Rivian or some other EV from a slightly more trustworthy brand.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Sagebrush posted:

this is an unbelievably stupid user interface and it should be recalled.

It really is and the fact that manual driving controls are this comingled with automated driving controls is gross negligence. How in the hell are regulators allowing this to go on?

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Motronic posted:

It really is and the fact that manual driving controls are this comingled with automated driving controls is gross negligence. How in the hell are regulators allowing this to go on?

Not enough complaints about it yet. Auto regulations are reactive. Manufacturers are largely allowed to do whatever they want until evidence accumulates that it's unsafe, and only then does the government step in.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

erm... actually thieves should be summarily executed
well also the entire US regulatory system is completely defanged and captured by industry lobbyists.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

MetaJew posted:

I think I've said this before, but the way you engage auto pilot/adaptive cruise control really makes me think that the driver in this case accidentally engaged it, and then panicked and was mashing the gas instead of the brake pedal.

That's what I think probably happened. I'm sure Tesla has some kind of telemetry data that can say exactly what the brake/throttle/etc position was during the 'unintentional acceleration' but there are already dozens of videos of people in China doing stuff exactly like this in cars without any kind of self-driving capability.

Sagebrush posted:

this is an unbelievably stupid user interface and it should be recalled.

Agree to this though what an insanely stupid way of triggering it. Why the gently caress would you have that anywhere near normal driving controls, yet alone directly on them.

Blowjob Overtime
Apr 6, 2008

Steeeeriiiiiiiiike twooooooo!

Sagebrush posted:

this is an unbelievably stupid user interface and it should be recalled.

Yeah that description reads a lot like the Toyota uncontrolled acceleration recall from a few years ago. Horrifying that it's working as intended.

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

MetaJew posted:

I was at a fast food drive-thru in our Model Y, and I thought I had the car in park. I went to tap the drive select stalk down to go into "drive" and accidentally double tapped it. Double tapping the stalk, while in "drive" will engage auto pilot. If you're on a freeway in stop-and-go traffic, it will stay in it's lane and drive up to the speed limit of the road. BUT, if you're in a drive-thru, with no lane markings, and at night, the car very briefly surged and almost took us into a cement barrier. I quickly stabbed the brake and shut it down, but it was spooky as hell.

:catstare:

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
My car's engine occasionally surges when I brake, I guess because the transmission is ... double clutching to downshift or something? I thought they all did that, but the only automatic transmissions I've ever owned are FWD Chryslers.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Colostomy Bag posted:

Give me a few minutes officer, while I look up the location of the glove box release cable for my glovebox.

"Resisting an officer!"
BLAM!
...at least in the US.



Not really the truck's fault, though. That's a terrible owner thing.

MetaJew posted:

I wish my ND2 Miata had a manual trunk release. I'd like to keep a battery pack for jump starts in the car, but there is no place to stow one in the cabin, and you have to have a functioning battery to pop the trunk. I think you can manually pop the trunk by disassembling the interior panels behind the passenger seat, but that's not something I want to have to do when they could've just run a physical cable.

What?
Why on Earth would you not put a keylock on the rear of the car. I don't even...


I doubt very much that is "totaled" unless he hosed up the battery or drive motors/controllers.
That's a $100K car but it's still a GM. Totaling it would take some effort.
:stare:
....just watched the video.
How about that. Giant bro-truck is completely useless off road.
loving entitled rich prick. "hurr hurr, I broke a car that most Americans can't afford to buy with a year's salary!"

Where did they get that thumbnail from, anyway? It's not that damaged, at least on the right rear.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qmFdTEhRdk

coupedeville
Jan 1, 2012

MY ANACONDA DOM'T WANT NONE UNLESS U GOT CUM SON!
TV just told me that Jay Leno has suffered burn injuries after a car fire....

Terrible car stuff? Probably. More information to come I'm sure

Edit: https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/jay-leno-burned-car-fire-face-injuries-severe-1235432183/

quote:

TMZ reported that Leno was hospitalized on Sunday after a fire erupted in his Los Angeles car garage. One of the cars reportedly burst into flames and left Leno with burns on his face. Leno was taken to the Grossman Burn Center for his injuries.

coupedeville fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Nov 15, 2022

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

coupedeville posted:

TV just told me that Jay Leno has suffered burn injuries after a car fire....

Terrible car stuff? Probably. More information to come I'm sure

Edit: https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/jay-leno-burned-car-fire-face-injuries-severe-1235432183/

quote:

Update: In a statement to Variety, Leno said “I got some serious burns from a gasoline fire. I am ok. Just need a week or two to get back on my feet.”

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS


“Made a simple fuel tank holder mounted under my chassis for my Chinese diesel heater.” (/r/vandwellers)

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe
No worries about fuel gelling being right next to the exhaust like that.

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug

Sagebrush posted:

this is an unbelievably stupid user interface and it should be recalled.

Seriously, all shifters (even automatics) should be a big physical lever that moves with a tactile ka-chunk when you change gear modes. These cars with little knobs or fiddly electronic switches to control PRNDL are designed by loving morons and criminals.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Number_6 posted:

Seriously, all shifters (even automatics) should be a big physical lever that moves with a tactile ka-chunk when you change gear modes. These cars with little knobs or fiddly electronic switches to control PRNDL are designed by loving morons and criminals.

I dislike the knob in my Escape. I back into most parking spaces and sometimes put it in park instead of reverse and just sit there for a moment not moving.

In my four working vehicles I have four different types of shifters. Stick, console, column, knob. It's a real treat to see where my hand goes when I park. I either wave it through the air, poke the console, or do an air grasp for a console shifter.

I also sometimes push my foot onto non existant parking brakes or push one down harder trying to release it. Surprisingly 3/4 vehicles have a parking brake pedal, the other is a button. The Sierra is a push down to release though, gets me in trouble with the others.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

erm... actually thieves should be summarily executed
like seriously how loving hard is it to just have distinct mechanical detents for each possible drive setting, like every automatic transmission car on the planet until the last 10 years or so? hell, even radio buttons like the edsel would be fine. there is absolutely zero reason to have drive mode be a non-modal switch, let alone one where the control input is shared with other functions. curse o' jaaaaaaysis christ

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Nov 15, 2022

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

Didnt Tesla talk about removing gear selector completely? The car 'AI' supposedly guessing which way you want to go.

Feel owned yet, gearleverailures? :smuggo:

HDC
Mar 11, 2006

Uthor posted:

Trunks do. Hatches do not. So you don't need one in an SUV or wagon or hatchback. Theoretically, you can crawl over the seats and get out through the doors.

My BMW E81 hatch does have an emergency release pull, but my E39 sedan does not. So things can vary unless legally mandated

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

Sagebrush posted:

like seriously how loving hard is it to just have distinct mechanical detents for each possible drive setting, like every automatic transmission car on the planet until the last 10 years or so? hell, even radio buttons like the edsel would be fine. there is absolutely zero reason to have drive mode be a non-modal switch, let alone one where the control input is shared with other functions. curse o' jaaaaaaysis christ

There are more important uses for that console real estate nowadays. Portrait screens, cellphone charging compartments, infotainment control devices, smooth piano black finish.

And I'm not completely joking. The lever on my car doesn't have detents so it takes less space than traditional, but I would have better uses for that space.

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BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

bad_fmr posted:

Didnt Tesla talk about removing gear selector completely? The car 'AI' supposedly guessing which way you want to go.

Feel owned yet, gearleverailures? :smuggo:

It's gone at least in the S and X:
https://twitter.com/hsumacher/status/1374585378988953601

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