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CaptainViolence
Apr 19, 2006

I'M GONNA GET YOU DUCK

please welcome to the stage DJ D-Sweet, here to make that Debussy POP on his French turntable

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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Thinkin bout that debussy

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

My d is sweet

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Brawnfire posted:

It's French so it probably exists as a ghost of a phoneme that you never actually voice but it's wrong if you don't as well

Then there's the opposite of this, when people make things too French and say "now, without further adieu..."

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

You pronounce the T in Valet

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

Tree Bucket posted:

Then there's the opposite of this, when people make things too French and say "now, without further adieu..."

Frenchadelphia
"Yo, pass that jean over here."
"Jean?"
"Yeah, the jean. Pass me that jean."


edit oh my god Jawn Valjawn is such a good username

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Tree Bucket posted:

Then there's the opposite of this, when people make things too French and say "now, without further adieu..."

That drives me nuts. Who is saying goodbye? Goddamn, people!

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

"And now, Mr Bond, without further goodbyes, it is time for you to die!"

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Gaius Marius posted:

You pronounce the T in Valet

And the 'r' in foyer.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

And the 'r' in foyer.

I've been foying wrong all this time

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Baron von Eevl posted:

edit oh my god Jawn Valjawn is such a good username

I think I'd prefer Gene Valgene.

ShimaTetsuo
Sep 9, 2001

Maximus Quietus

Captain Hygiene posted:

Well, I guess I halfway learned a new thing because I thought it was tout suite. I dunno if the de is just smushed in quickly enough that I never noticed it, or if the times I've heard it just left that out by mistake. I'm guessing the latter.

there are regional dialects where the final t in "tout" is pronounced and the "de" is skipped over (it would be awkward to say both).

but you have to say the t or the d, otherwise you end up sounding like an old-timey racist caricature

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Captain Hygiene posted:

Thinkin bout that debussy

debop that debussy

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
If the "de" was fully ignored there would be no stop on the first vowel of the phrase and it'd sound like "too sweet" instead.

It's like the difference between how most people would pronounce "stay" vs "state" in fluid speech. The "t" isn't fully pronounced but it still affects the pronunciation

wakka wakka
Oct 9, 2004

Wasabi the J posted:

debop that debussy

the rhythm of debussy the beat

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

would you please offer our guests some whores devours?

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



A bit of a stretch, because I found out years and years ago, but in the song American Girl by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, the opening lyrics are: 'Well, she was an American girl/raised on promises', NOT 'Well, she was an American girl/raised by Protestants'.

Kantesu
Apr 21, 2010

doctorfrog posted:

would you please offer our guests some whores devours?

Yum, I love Puttanesca

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Kantesu posted:

Yum, I love Puttanesca

Nice!

Lincoln
May 12, 2007

Ladies.

Gaius Marius posted:

You pronounce the T in Valet

I work in the horse racing industry. Every jockey has a valet, and everyone in the business says, “VAL-ett.” So when I hear, “val-AY” out in the real world it sounds really wrong. Like when someone says, “catsup.”

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Gaius Marius posted:

You pronounce the T in Valet

But not in Claude Monet.

e;
Content.

Realized recently how much French I actually know to talk with a coworker who only speaks French. And how little other people know that a lot of words are the same just pronounced in a funny accent like Onion is Ognion. And salad is... well you know.

One hiccup tho when they asked me to print out labels for the food prep telling me 4 and 4. I thought oh four of each of two labels when they meant 8 of one label.

MariusLecter has a new favorite as of 13:36 on Nov 16, 2022

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
I think the horse racing valet is from the British pronunciation of valet with the T, which is just them pronouncing valet wrong on purpose (as a joke?).

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Baron von Eevl posted:

I think the horse racing valet is from the British pronunciation of valet with the T, which is just them pronouncing valet wrong on purpose (as a joke?).

Jeeves would never joke about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNiq7jrdYXY&t=100s

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Aah, the french

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy2LRxdlgWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BGaA3PC9tQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2TWBBxwhbU

gently caress em.
wonderful people, love them but god whyy

ThisIsJohnWayne has a new favorite as of 17:00 on Nov 16, 2022

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
About the 4+4 thing.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

MariusLecter posted:

About the 4+4 thing.



:catdrugs:

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




In Montreal back at the turn of the millennium there was a certain point where everybody just straight up stopped saying years. Just find whatever way we could to avoid saying it.

Like instead of May 30 1991, we'd say May 30, 8 years ago, even in official records

Anything was better than "mille neuf-cent quatre-vignt et onze"

(One thousand, nine hundred, four twenties plus eleven)

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

I don't like the French language to me it sounds mush-mouthed and nasally, I could just be a bad person though.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Women speaking French is hot

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

The strange thing about french numbers is that there are dialects of it that have perfectly reasonable words for those numbers - octante for 80, nonante for 90 for example.

It's just that speakers of "normal" french refuse to use them.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Weembles posted:

The strange thing about french numbers is that there are dialects of it that have perfectly reasonable words for those numbers - octante for 80, nonante for 90 for example.

It's just that speakers of "normal" french refuse to use them.

Those are hydrocarbons you rube!

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
Per Eddie Izzard: I do like the French, but they can be a little bit loving French.

Friend
Aug 3, 2008


This was neat! I love stuff like this.

Also I just realized why some posts say "this user has a new favorite." It never clicked for me that I only saw it in PYF threads :doh:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



MariusLecter posted:

About the 4+4 thing.



the correct way is 7+4.5*20

for fucks sake
Jan 23, 2016

MariusLecter posted:

About the 4+4 thing.



Danish: Syvoghalvfems (seven and half five???)

Finnish: yhdeksänkymmentäseitsemän
(no idea how it's composed, any Finns want to break it down?)

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

for fucks sake posted:

Finnish: yhdeksänkymmentäseitsemän
(no idea how it's composed, any Finns want to break it down?)

Probably pointing to a pile of exactly 97 potatoes.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



for fucks sake posted:


Finnish: yhdeksänkymmentäseitsemän
(no idea how it's composed, any Finns want to break it down?)

Yhdeksänkymmentä = 90 (yhdeksän = 9, kymmentä = 10)
Seitsemän = 7

Finnish numbers are p simple

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Say what you will about the crafty Finn they actually know how to count over there.

Which is more I can say about the sausage-eating southrons in Denmark.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



The Danish number system is absolutely bonkers but has to do with the fact that it’s derived partly from a base-20 system instead of base-10, like most sane number systems. The weird cases in French are also derived from historical base-20 poo poo which used to be more common in Europe several centuries ago.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Yeah it's hardly that uncommon in historical English either, see "four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie" or "four score and seven years ago...,"

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