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Lostconfused posted:The whole Trudeau thing is weird, did anything important actually get leaked? The only thing I saw mentioned was just standard news poo poo where they talked about "stuff" Not really, Trudeau just said some stuff to Xi of his serious concerns about Chinese interference and espionage in Canada. Which got immediately leaked to the press and reporting in a way that 'Trudeau stands up to Xi Jinping', which I'm assuming was he goal in leaking it, making him look strong to his own country. Xi probably understood that reason and decided give him a public dressing down.
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Nov 17, 2022 18:22
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Justin Trudeau is just trendier leo varadkar.
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Nov 17, 2022 18:33
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Which was the first to wear colorful socks to distract from their regressive, anti-poor policies?
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Nov 17, 2022 18:38
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I think that was Trudeau, the trendsetter. Leo chases behind him like a capitalist without a military
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Nov 17, 2022 18:40
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Marenghi posted:Which was the first to wear colorful socks to distract from their regressive, anti-poor policies? George hw bush ?
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Nov 17, 2022 18:42
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Marenghi posted:Which was the first to wear colorful socks to distract from their regressive, anti-poor policies? 
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Nov 17, 2022 18:51
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Lostconfused posted:Doesn't seem like the west thinks of it that as diplomatic decorum since there's constant news about so and so talked about this and that. there were plenty of readouts published about official meetings from this conference, including by China. the Canadian meeting was understood by both parties beforehand not to be such a meeting. of course this isn’t worth of publication in the news lol e: and the whole point of having a private meeting at all would be for example if Trudeau actually cared about ~genocide~ and wanted to try to encourage action about it without scoring political points or costing face. instead he does the exact opposite, projects, and takes credit for his bravery for his calculated duplicity eSports Chaebol has issued a correction as of 20:21 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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Nov 17, 2022 20:15
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I bought a DVD copy of Hero on ebay from an importer before the movie came out in the states and I remember being disappointed in the subtitles that they used for the theatrical release compared to my copy. Idk if how accurate either one was, but the theater version seemed a little dumbed down.
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Nov 17, 2022 20:51
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cenotaph posted:I bought a DVD copy of Hero on ebay from an importer before the movie came out in the states and I remember being disappointed in the subtitles that they used for the theatrical release compared to my copy. Idk if how accurate either one was, but the theater version seemed a little dumbed down. I saw it in the theater in middle school and it seemed like the greatest thing ever though?
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Nov 17, 2022 21:43
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Tankbuster posted:his excuse is that korean men have tiny dicks (not joking). The country elected this crank because women were saying slurs on forums. could you elaborate on this? that seems like a weird reason to elect someone
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Nov 17, 2022 21:45
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A Spherical Sponge posted:could you elaborate on this? that seems like a weird reason to elect someone in korean internet culture of recent years there has been a lot of gendered flaming (lots of different stuff going on, not easy to completely sum up, but the electoral upshot is a lot more young men than is typical have bought into the sort of online antifeminism that you see elsewhere) and the yoon campaign played to this dynamic by promising various changes to government policy meant to promote equality and such
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Nov 17, 2022 21:53
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mawarannahr posted:I saw it in the theater in middle school and it seemed like the greatest thing ever though? It was still amazing and I'm glad it got a theatrical release in the US. One thing was that thing he wrote in the sand at the end was "our land" in the theater and my copy said "all under heaven." Don't know which is more accurate but I like the heaven line better. Has a little more punch.
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Nov 17, 2022 22:05
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cenotaph posted:It was still amazing and I'm glad it got a theatrical release in the US. One thing was that thing he wrote in the sand at the end was "our land" in the theater and my copy said "all under heaven." Don't know which is more accurate but I like the heaven line better. Has a little more punch. it sounds a little more universal, which is nice. our land sounds nationalist and therefore associated with some distasteful things.
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Nov 17, 2022 22:07
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mawarannahr posted:it sounds a little more universal, which is nice. our land sounds nationalist and therefore associated with some distasteful things. The nationalism of formerly colonized socialist states is distinct from the more typical reactionary variety so I'm fine with that.
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Nov 17, 2022 22:29
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cenotaph posted:It was still amazing and I'm glad it got a theatrical release in the US. One thing was that thing he wrote in the sand at the end was "our land" in the theater and my copy said "all under heaven." Don't know which is more accurate but I like the heaven line better. Has a little more punch. 天下 means literally "all that is under heaven" and probably originally meant all of "china" 3000 years ago and still caries that meaning today, though most people will assume it means "on this earth" - it's more general now the King in Hero eventually becomes the first big unifier in chinese history (and he's the first emperor) and starts the chinese nation
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Nov 17, 2022 22:33
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cenotaph posted:It was still amazing and I'm glad it got a theatrical release in the US. One thing was that thing he wrote in the sand at the end was "our land" in the theater and my copy said "all under heaven." Don't know which is more accurate but I like the heaven line better. Has a little more punch. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianxia it’s a little complicated exactly what the most compact way to translate it is in any given context
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Nov 17, 2022 22:36
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also the DP is an Australian, though he's chinese now with hong kong residency I think, and he said it's just a ripoff of Rashomon
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Nov 17, 2022 22:36
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I think it goes that he unified china, and in his dying days, the people he beat down stole his empire and labeled him a tyrant but kept everything else i tack and the same.
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Nov 17, 2022 22:40
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ikanreed posted:I really don't know how typical modern Chinese people view qin shihuang. He had a reputation as a brutal tyrant who enslaved everyone to maintain his war state, but also did a lot of really essential nation building to what is modern China. He was an important historical figure, far removed from modern Chinese society and culture. Chinese people don't really labour under the impression that their historical figures are infallible anyways. Guys from 2000 years ago definitely aren't worth introspecting over.
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Nov 17, 2022 22:44
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Lostconfused posted:The whole Trudeau thing is weird, did anything important actually get leaked? The only thing I saw mentioned was just standard news poo poo where they talked about "stuff" I think Canadian media have been using to show how China is attacking traditional Canadian values like mass graves at Residencial school, and monuments to Ukrianian Nazis so they can't allow China to change who they are
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Nov 17, 2022 22:45
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Qin Shi Huangdi crushed all the independent warring feudal states and laid the foundations for a centralized empire governed by a civil service. It was a tumultuous process that cost a lot of lives but was good for China and led to the Pax Sinica of the Han Dynasty. The unspoken comparison you could draw from the movie is Mao/the CPC leading China out of the Century of Humiliation and into socialist modernity.
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Nov 17, 2022 22:47
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Antonymous posted:天下 means literally "all that is under heaven" and probably originally meant all of "china" 3000 years ago and still caries that meaning today, though most people will assume it means "on this earth" - it's more general now this allusion meant posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianxia Very interesting, thanks. I assumed it was something like this given my limited exposure (especially at the time of release) to Chinese history.
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Nov 17, 2022 22:48
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"under heaven" more like "under sky" in Chinese. Heaven is just "sky" or "western sky". "God" or the Chinese non anthropomorphic name for god is just "Lord Old Sky". Akso "Mandate of Heaven" is "Sky Command". I don't like the translation of "under heaven" that much. It's too fancy, like Romance of Three Kingdom. Should be just called Three Kingdom Saga. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 23:41 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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Nov 17, 2022 23:36
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Tianxia is cool because it gave us the most amazing sounding stance of the the most amazing sounding technique. Dog beating staffs No Dogs Under Heaven 天下無狗
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Nov 18, 2022 00:13
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What's the Playtime is Over stance?
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Nov 18, 2022 00:20
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Sparrowtime is OVER
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Nov 18, 2022 00:24
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Grain time is over
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Nov 18, 2022 01:10
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mtw is the way
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Nov 18, 2022 01:12
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HONG KONG — Director Chan Tze-woon’s latest movie explores how political struggles across generations of Hongkongers shaped their identity. Yet it has never been shown in the city where it is set — where Chan was born and raised — and a significant portion of its funding came from abroad. The story behind “Blue Island,” which on Saturday could win best documentary feature at Taiwan’s prestigious Golden Horse Awards, is the story of how independent Hong Kong filmmakers are increasingly looking to overseas markets as censorship grows at home. Chan chose not to screen the movie in local cinemas because that would have required an official review under the city’s Film Censorship Ordinance. Against the backdrop of a 2020 security law intended to curb dissent following months of pro-democracy protests, the ordinance was amended last year to bar content that could be deemed a threat to national security. Three Taiwanese films were recently snagged and required to delete scenes to secure the necessary permissions to be part of local film festivals. In October, censors “recommended” against an outdoor showing of “The Dark Knight.” Though they didn’t give a reason, the assumption here was that they reacted to the depiction of a corrupt Chinese businessman. The movie was pulled. Such challenges make the nomination of “Blue Island” all the more important, Chan said, raising its visibility and sparking discussion about the dramatic upheavals Hong Kong has experienced and what its future holds. The movie shows “the real Hong Kong, its atmosphere and how locals as well as the diaspora face such huge changes,” Chan explained. A mix of documentary and drama that follows activists of different generations as they struggle to seek and maintain their freedoms, it was a featured selection in the London, Toronto and Rotterdam film festivals and will be distributed in Taiwan in December. “I hope the younger generation of filmmakers can feel that we are not alone, that we don’t necessarily need to pursue the commercial path and go through official censorship,” Chan said. “We can pioneer and forge our own paths in pursuit of free filmmaking.” Other Hong Kong films that could be honored Saturday include “The Sunny Side of the Street,” which stars Anthony Wong, a popular actor who supported the city’s pro-democracy protests in 2019, and “Limbo,” a monochromatic depiction of the city’s violent side. Neither film has played in theaters in mainland China. The Golden Horse Awards, known as the Oscars of the Chinese-speaking world, are among the ever-more-important platforms for independent filmmakers such as Chan as they shift their focus offshore and seek new ways to fund their work and promote it to a broader audience. The organization behind the awards runs a special program to connect Chinese-speaking filmmakers with the international industry that can help support their artistic ventures. This year, 10 Hong Kong film projects are part of it. The film community has “shown the ability to survive and thrive in the cracks,” said Kiwi Chow, who directed last year’s documentary winner, “Revolution of Our Times,” which takes its name from a now-banned protest slogan. His film also was never screened in Hong Kong. Not that long ago, Hong Kong cinema was a point of pride. The early 1990s marked its pinnacle; thanks to many eager investors, hundreds of movies were produced annually. Stars such as Jackie Chan followed in Bruce Lee’s footsteps and reinvented martial arts for a global audience. Directors such as Wong Kar-wai captured the city’s beauty while encapsulating its identity struggle as the former British colony was transferred back to Chinese rule in 1997. Chow said he began to reach out to independent investors and freelance actors when larger film companies with mainland affiliations cut ties. Others have chosen to do the same rather than put their artistic expression at risk. Chan, for instance, secured funding for “Blue Island” from France, South Korea and three other countries. Not surprisingly given the antagonistic relationship between China and Taiwan, the Golden Horse Awards themselves have provoked Beijing’s ire. After a Taiwanese director expressed support for the self-governing island’s independence, Beijing banned mainland filmmakers from attending the 2019 ceremony. In September, an influential Hong Kong film association issued a letter asking members to boycott this weekend’s ceremony amid “intensifying geopolitical tensions.” Some local filmmakers benefit from working with Chinese authorities. They get access under a 2003 agreement between Beijing and Hong Kong for co-production of films, which continues to provides funding and access to circumvent the mainland’s limited yearly quota for imported films. “Most Hong Kong directors and actors are just taking part in stories based in the mainland,” said Lee Cheng-liang, assistant professor of communications at National Chengchi University in Taipei. “This cooperation is at the expense of the entire Hong Kong film industry as they transfer their skills and experience to China.” But the appeal of the Chinese film market has weakened with the tighter censorship. As of November, only 49 foreign movies had passed scrutiny and been allowed in mainland theaters this year, the lowest number in nearly a decade. The box office during China’s National Day holiday last month slumped over 60 percent compared with the 2021 holiday. Patriotic films, often showing Chinese officials or soldiers coming to citizens’ rescue to drum up support for the Communist Party, accounted for more than two-thirds of ticket sales. “These films do not tell people’s stories from the perspective of individualism but of collectivism,” said Hao Jian, a professor at Beijing Film Academy. “Not presenting the real lives of the people and the society will certainly affect the audience’s enthusiasm in watching films in the long run.” For Ren Xia, whose film “May You Stay Forever Young” was nominated for a Golden Horse Award last year, turning away from the mainland and Hong Kong markets could be a tough decision. It’s one he is willing to live with, however. In July, he helped to write a joint declaration on the freedom of filmmaking, calling for creation without compromise. Dozens of filmmakers in Hong Kong, including Chan and Chow, signed it. “Shooting films itself is risky,” Ren said last week, noting that award-winning Iranian directors such as Jafar Panahi have been put behind bars for telling the truth through their work. “If they can do it in a more dangerous situation than we are, we have no reason to be afraid.” “For me, films are really important,” he added. “I would sacrifice my freedom to continue to shoot.”
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Nov 18, 2022 01:14
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I'm just going to assume his foreign funding is cutout CIA accounts
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Nov 18, 2022 01:19
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All Dogs Go To Western Sky
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Nov 18, 2022 01:23
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https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/11/18/22/xi-wants-to-write-new-chapter-in-ph-china-relations Xi wants ‘to write new chapter’ in PH-China relations quote:BANGKOK — Chinese President Xi Jinping on Thursday told Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. the he wants to “write a new chapter in China-Philippines friendship.”
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Nov 18, 2022 03:28
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/11/18/22/xi-wants-to-write-new-chapter-in-ph-china-relations he's as much of a liar as his daddy, but this approach seems much much smarter than what the r/Philippines Robredo campaign would be saying and doing had they got into power
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Nov 18, 2022 03:42
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Isentropy posted:he's as much of a liar as his daddy, but this approach seems much much smarter than what the r/Philippines Robredo campaign would be saying and doing had they got into power there's still some part of me that wishes she'd won just to see the kind of brain-breaking that would occur when Robredo has to start establishing cordial relations with China
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Nov 18, 2022 03:56
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Probably would like Trudeau but more cringe.
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Nov 18, 2022 04:11
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stephenthinkpad posted:"under heaven" more like "under sky" in Chinese. Heaven is just "sky" or "western sky". "God" or the Chinese non anthropomorphic name for god is just "Lord Old Sky". Akso "Mandate of Heaven" is "Sky Command". yah and the emperor has the sky mandate? from.... some air above him? heaven sounds grandiose, way better
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Nov 18, 2022 04:20
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Chinese has some great sky based poo poo like how east is to the left north in Mahjong cause the presumed perspective when thinking about wind direction is looking up at 'heaven' not down at earth. and yah the dead go west, where the sun sets. Westerners the dead are below and also somehow above. Death Stranding is a journey to the west coast i.e. to the land of the dead 天 is sky but also the word for god so edit: and the word for day and season and weather and innate ability and so on the word gets around Antonymous has issued a correction as of 04:27 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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Nov 18, 2022 04:23
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A Spherical Sponge posted:could you elaborate on this? that seems like a weird reason to elect someone The incel movement here elected a mid 30s dude as their champion to lead the PPP conservative party. They actually almost cost him the election, as just as many young women came to oppose them as incels voted for. But he managed to squeak out a tiny rear end victory, 247,077 votes or 0.73%, due to the land lords and real estate voters in Seoul. Also there were 2 minor parties running but the conservative one folded into the main party while the justice party stayed in gaining 2.37% of the vote sealing South Korea's fate to the abyss.
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Nov 18, 2022 04:38
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Sorry Korean liberals but demographics are destiny. If you want the incel voting bloc to be less powerful you're going to have to start taking virginities.
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Nov 18, 2022 05:07
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Oh yeah, then the old conservative men ousted the incel party leader with sex bribe evidence, so they have lost all support outside of the hyper-fascist elderly people, that sturdy 16% approval bedrock.
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Nov 18, 2022 05:20
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