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Reik
Mar 8, 2004
Our main source of silver was on a mountain that was very tall, so even though we built a basecamp like halfway up it was still annoying getting the silver down to the smelters



So we built this



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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Man our method was just to yeet the cart down the slope and then collect it again at the bottom. I do like that ramp though

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Hey, if anyone wants more of the same (but different enough) I've been playing Necesse a lot lately.

It's like Terraria + RimWorld. I'm constantly on the lookout for my perfect survival game and if it was 3D, I'd be high up there.

Valheim has better combat and atmosphere but Necesse seems to have all the elements of these games I like and simplified, to a degree.

Reik
Mar 8, 2004
One of the devs tweeted this last week.

https://twitter.com/RobinEyreArt/status/1591014594981437441?s=20&t=LtNVZBl1cdl6wH9MPhf6Vw

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Oh dang this might affect my Christmas plans. Assuming it wasn't a joke

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
https://twitter.com/jsmars/status/1592885212245299201

a bunch of new building pieces in this teaser video

e. it looks like the new raven cloak slows fall speed

NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Nov 16, 2022

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
I wish the deposits would be deeper. Real ‘veins’ if you will. I want to become a dwarf miner and build my empire underground mining all the things until I delve “too deep” and find ancient beings of this world that lead to my doom.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
I remember spending two weeks holiday in valheim building a fort on a friend's multiplayer server, Because I had to use the holiday or lose it.

They lost their poo poo about how i had ruined the game because I found decent swampland and looted them, then pissily ignored the bigger swamplands I pointed out for them. I didn't even do the bosses, I just kinda chilled and built my moat+castle and watched the battles (the spot was on black forest, in between swamp, mountain and plains territory).

I have new friends now.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Pro-tip: You can mark explored crypts and caves by building roasting spits without having to build a crafting tables. They're the perfect size to block off a doorway and critters don't break them.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
If you haven't built a structure specifically to house all your portals, you really should, bonus points if the portal structure is only reachable through a portal and is on a tiny island or top of the tallest mountain.

Sure, you could just change the password on a single portal, but nobody got time for that.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

If you haven't built a structure specifically to house all your portals, you really should, bonus points if the portal structure is only reachable through a portal and is on a tiny island or top of the tallest mountain.

Sure, you could just change the password on a single portal, but nobody got time for that.

we had a portal nexus on a tiny island, it was this cool hexagonal stone structure that covered the entire landmass so nothing would spawn there

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
This guy gets it.

Mine was a stone lighthouse on a small offshore island, when it stormed the waves would wash over the bridge.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
There's something about bridge-building in this game that is simultaneously infuriating and addictively gratifying.

Hemish
Jan 25, 2005

I started reading this thread a few days ago and I started from mid 2021 where I last played a bit of this game and I remembered the discussions about Mistlands. I can't believe Mistlands is still not out!

I'm still enjoying the game because when it was first released, I played like 50 hours and stopped while I was in the swamps. I now restarted from scratch with a new seed and character last weekend so I have ways to go. Solo is not quick.

The one thing I really hate are the raids. Is the trick I saw online still working where you open the debug console and use a resetkey function to reset the world? It doesn't prevent you from progressing in the game as the progress are items from bosses (like the swamp key for crypts)? For some weird reason, I only have the deer boss killed but I'm somewhere in day 30-40 and I've yet to get one raid but I remember hating them since they happened quite often back when I last played.

I marvel at your screenshots. I wouldn't be able to construct buildings that nice but I shudder at how you guys can gather so much resource to do them in the first place! Also how you can build something that high as they must require quite a lot of scaffolding work, etc..

I wish the equipment wouldn't use inventory slots. The weight could stay but I'd like an equipment window so I don't waste so much slots. 3 armor pieces, cloak, that strength belt, arrows. That's a lot.

I tried digging underneath copper nodes because they're supposed to be iceberg but it's always empty. The 4 I worked on were barely going down in the ground. If it's like icebergs, I expected them to be a solid mass... unless you can have like 4 feet of dirt before getting to another vein underneath?

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
If you're using the console and hate raid events you can just run /stopevent as soon as one starts.

Alternatively Valheim Plus includes an option to just turn them off. And also to add more inventory slots.

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
only text

Hemish posted:

Also how you can build something that high as they must require quite a lot of scaffolding work, etc..




The trick is iron beams

Jabarto
Apr 7, 2007

I could do with your...assistance.

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

If you haven't built a structure specifically to house all your portals, you really should, bonus points if the portal structure is only reachable through a portal and is on a tiny island or top of the tallest mountain.

Sure, you could just change the password on a single portal, but nobody got time for that.

I always build a large building as close to the spawn point as possible for that purpose. All the portal hopping can get cumbersome but it keeps everything at a decent baseline of accessibility

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

Hemish posted:


I wish the equipment wouldn't use inventory slots. The weight could stay but I'd like an equipment window so I don't waste so much slots. 3 armor pieces, cloak, that strength belt, arrows. That's a lot.


There is a client based mod that put's armor and similar into it's own little category separate from your inventory.

Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Nov 17, 2022

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Jabarto posted:

I always build a large building as close to the spawn point as possible for that purpose. All the portal hopping can get cumbersome but it keeps everything at a decent baseline of accessibility

I justify using the starting area as using the standing stones as a locus of power

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

There is a client based mod that put's armor and similar into it's own little category separate from your inventory.


Word of warning if you use a mod that adds extra inventory slots or similar. If you boot up the character without the mod then you'll lose any items that were in the extra slots.

Burns
May 10, 2008

I really hope that the next update will include more fundemental updates to game systems. I would like to see an animation overhaul for player character and npcs as well. Id like to see climbing animations added and more AI enhancements. Also anti-deathsquito base defences would be appreciated in the Plains. I truly how they improve water physics and add flowing water that could lead to waterfalls etc.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Hemish posted:

I marvel at your screenshots. I wouldn't be able to construct buildings that nice but I shudder at how you guys can gather so much resource to do them in the first place! Also how you can build something that high as they must require quite a lot of scaffolding work, etc..

Tall things can require scaffolding (or jumping between randomly place floor boards because viking OSHA is just eating enough food to survive a fall) but if you have enough of an idea ahead of time you can build up from the inside since you'll have staircases somewhere.

Gathering resources is always a time commitment though. Not sure where I put the pictures of a giant tower my and a friend built on top of a stone spire in the Plains but that thing needed a LOT of trips to the swamp and gathering any stone and core wood we came across.

Core wood beams is actually sort of a "trick" to building bigger structures, like that dock I posted, before you have access to iron and stone, since core wood has a much higher stability than regular wooden walls. A bunch of beams placed on top of each other is just as much of a wall as some regular wood panels but they'll be able to go much higher. Gives a nice log cabin look as well.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Hemish posted:

I marvel at your screenshots. I wouldn't be able to construct buildings that nice but I shudder at how you guys can gather so much resource to do them in the first place! Also how you can build something that high as they must require quite a lot of scaffolding work, etc..

Also while I truly admire anyone building such things without mods, one should absolutely get the Build Camera mod. It makes building things like docks and wharves that need underwater pieces (to look nice) possible, and makes building regular stuff a million times easier.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Might be unrelated but Frozen Flame went into EA today, I've been kind of keeping an eye on it as a Valheim like, has anyone tried it out?

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Hemish posted:

I tried digging underneath copper nodes because they're supposed to be iceberg but it's always empty. The 4 I worked on were barely going down in the ground. If it's like icebergs, I expected them to be a solid mass... unless you can have like 4 feet of dirt before getting to another vein underneath?

Copper nodes are giant boulders of ore that you usually just see the very top of aboveground, yes.
What might be confusing, is that there is no pre-existing pit for them to be in; they're just sort of phased into the ground, so when you break off a chunk of ore, you'll also have to dig out the dirt that occupies the same space.

For reference, here's a picture of a copper deposit that I've dug out and partially mined:

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Yup. Also having done the whole "dig out the whole hole to get all of the copper" maneuver, it is not at all worth it in terms of time invested. Maybe if it was your very first copper deposit and you were trying to avoid venturing far into the forest, but even then I doubt it.

Hemish
Jan 25, 2005

Thank you for your replies, guys. I'm not too fond of mods since I guess they break all the time when they push these small patches?

I'll work on a garden and maybe try one of those tree farm tonight. Maybe get a pen going for future pigs. Just taking a break from mining copper. I definitively didn't notice that much copper underneath the nodes I went for. I swear I dug straight down for 4-5-hits without hitting new copper and that was from the middle of the visible node after I cleared a chunk. Maybe that "you need to dig the earth that was occupying the same place as the copper" is what tricks me up because the chunk that vanishes when it explodes goes deeper than I thought?

I forgot some things since my last playthrough so I've not been very optimized on this reset. I forgot that I needed to do the cultivator so it can unlock planting trees as I thought I needed iron. Same with carrots. I could have been farming a few sessions ago.

My memories really didn't make justice at how much copper you need early on. It feels brutal to need to combine it with tin right as your first metal. They could ease you off a little bit.

Is building some stuff on top of a crypt in the swamp biome still viable? I remember doing that with a repair bench and basic shelter to store iron in chests before I was ready to bring it to my boat.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I’ve seen copper nodes that go into the ground for a ways and others that don’t. I don’t spend too much time digging unless I keep finding it. I never really felt bronze was too bad though. I think I just enjoy spending time in the Black Forest. Its monsters aren’t too hard but there’s enough to keep you on your toes and trolls are exciting. It’s got a great atmosphere to accompany the meadows.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Yeah copper is a bit of a hassle. Honestly it can really pay to turn the first ten bronze you can get into a boat to go find the merchant for your weight belt so you can carry a reasonable amount of ore.

Building stuff on crypts absolutely viable.

And the small patches tend not to break mods in my experience. Mistlands probably will be these little ones haven't for me.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Yeah the big mods usually break with a major patch and then are updated within a few days. Smaller ones sometimes break and turn out to be abandoned. But there isn't even a great deal smaller mods do that Valheim Plus doesn't. It really is your fully customizable one-stop shop for 90% of the stuff you'd want to mod Valheim for (other than conversions like Epic Loot).

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Kibayasu posted:

I’ve seen copper nodes that go into the ground for a ways and others that don’t. I don’t spend too much time digging unless I keep finding it. I never really felt bronze was too bad though. I think I just enjoy spending time in the Black Forest. Its monsters aren’t too hard but there’s enough to keep you on your toes and trolls are exciting. It’s got a great atmosphere to accompany the meadows.

They all go deep, they're all the same big squashed sphere shape.

The most efficient way to dig them out is to go all the way round the edge, then dig all the way underneath, then all the top bits eventually break.

You definitely can't get all of all of them, though, because of the fact that you can only deform the ground level a certain distance in any given spot.

Reik posted:

Our main source of silver was on a mountain that was very tall, so even though we built a basecamp like halfway up it was still annoying getting the silver down to the smelters


This is cool and all but it takes basically no time to port 20 stone and 5 cores UP the mountain and smelt the silver in place.

It's a little harder to get the full level workbenches up there too, but it's well worth it in terms of time.

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Nov 17, 2022

drewhead
Jun 22, 2002

Eric the Mauve posted:

Yeah the big mods usually break with a major patch and then are updated within a few days. Smaller ones sometimes break and turn out to be abandoned. But there isn't even a great deal smaller mods do that Valheim Plus doesn't. It really is your fully customizable one-stop shop for 90% of the stuff you'd want to mod Valheim for (other than conversions like Epic Loot).

Also the last patch was in March, so it's not like this is happening all the time.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars
Mistlands gameplay trailer premieres 22 Nov 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZOuBjvETR8

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Y'know, all the standard coy PR leading up to a major content release really hits different when the company has been loving around doing stone nothing for a couple of years.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I can't wait to learn about the 30 new food items they've added for some reason

drewhead
Jun 22, 2002

Dropping this during the Holidays is a pretty lovely thing to do to my family.

Hemish
Jan 25, 2005

I dropped a Karve yesterday and sailed a few minutes to reach 2 copper nodes close to the shore. I logged off for the night as mining it will be in my next session but before leaving I wanted to make some kind of dock.... How do you even build in the water? I could somewhat snap poles to the underside of the planks but when the pole is not long enough, I couldn't snap a second one to reach the floor and be a support. I spent 10 minutes not managing anything.

I was hoping to have a place to park my boat farther from the shore as monsters just go ape poo poo and keep destroying it... I think I had this issue 2 years ago. Monsters just destroying the boat all the time and it was a pain mining and hoping to get the boat filled for a return trip.

Dwesa posted:

Mistlands gameplay trailer premieres 22 Nov 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZOuBjvETR8

Oh wow it's nothing. Just an ad to an upcoming trailer. Remember the days where the trailers didn't need PR prior to release it and they were the PR itself for an upcoming game?

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
When a single piece won't snap into place from the sea floor due to too much vertical distance, my solution is to slap down a piece roughly in the right place and then try again. The game will detect that there's a supported (because it's intersecting the haphazardly-placed piece) location to snap to the horizontal dock, allowing the correct snap. And then you do the same to the newly-placed correctly-aligned piece, continuing the piling down into the sea floor. At which point you can remove the haphazard support piece. It's janky AF and is still limited by your maximum placement distance from the water's surface, but it works without mods.

Overcoming the limitations of the engine with creativity is part of what makes building interesting to me, which is part of why I don't have the various construction mods. Aside from VR, which does make construction easier in some ways. Side effect though.

Corbeau fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Nov 18, 2022

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

The correct answer is Build Camera

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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Yeah, I do appreciate the building in this game, it's very satisfying when you get something made, but the build camera from No Man's Sky has spoiled me.

But I'm also playing this on my steam deck and am not going to gently caress around with mods, so :shrug:

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