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deep dish peat moss posted:This game is borderline unplayable in public matchmaking right now outside of 1-skull difficulty which, ugh. I put in 4 hours playing 2-skull missions with public groups and only won one mission. I made it to a whopping level 4 in 4 hours. I think the thing to keep in mind is that there are a LOT of new people who either haven't played Vermintide or last did so years ago, and a lot of people who aren't use being at the bottom end of the gear spectrum again. Like, difficulty 3 opens up at level 3 and the way the enemies are scaled would make that a HUGE MISTAKE, and yet every time I've tried to up to Malice difficulty its always like level 3-4 pugs still using their starter gear and eating poo poo on the first horde. They really ought to change difficulty 3 to open at like level 10, Difficulty 4 at 15, difficulty 5 at level 20 or something to that extent.
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Maybe something about this and Vermintide have always just clicked with me but like, you can quite literally dance circles around any enemy in this game. Even poxhounds can rarely pounce you if you just keep spamming sideways dodges. If you keep dodging back/sideways while swinging a melee weapon, that will defeat anything this game throws at you except for ranged enemies. And the ranged enemies are hella dangerous but... if you run up and swing a melee weapon at them, they stop shooting, switch to their own melee weapons, and get wrecked. You can block any hit from even the biggest enemy as long as you have even 1% stamina. It's also a game where enemies never just turn on a dime to shoot at you, so you can flank and run up behind them. You can shoot potshots with a pistol to distract shooters then hide in cover while your teammate runs up in melee. You can do a lot to direct enemy attention and if you pay attention to where the enemies are looking you can move around pretty much effortlessly in big chaotic fights. It's just frustrating that it gives you an absurd wealth of tactical tools to use to defeat pretty much any situation but people just don't use any of them. That stuff was all intuitive to my friend and I within two missions in the old beta  And what I like about this game so much is just how intuitive all of that stuff is because the visual and audio effects telegraphing it all are phenomenal. you can feel the thud of bullets plinking on armor distracting a crusher and know that it's pissing him off. You can see where shooters are aiming based on scope glint. You can see enemies get viscerally stunned when you hit them with a weapon that has some stopping power. It's all rad as hell.But on the other hand I just hopped into a Difficulty 3 mission and it was smooth as butter (we were all level 4-6), so maybe the problem is just that the good players go straight to higher difficulties. e: On reflection I think I am also biased by playing Zealot which is ridiculously OP and invincible even after the dash toughness nerf from the old beta. 5% toughness/sec regen even without my allies near me, AND I can restore 50% toughness at will? Okay. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Nov 19, 2022 |
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Even with my 3080ti i've been dropping sub 30 fps and stuttering. Shits kinda fuckin dumb. RE: ogryns, the shovel is amazing for just being an all rounder, overhead heavy is pretty much AP and regular chains are great at wave clear. that being said ive been loving the shield and club, the shields special has him just fuckin plant it and nothing can pass it and you take next to none or none at all stamina damage, just happily sit infront of 3+ gunners or whatever else and just laugh whiile dudes behind blast away. Become the door.
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Nov 19, 2022 04:00
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For what it's worth, they really upped the ranged enemy counts since the weekend beta and I really actually like it. It gives you a lot more to consider in any situation rather than just 'run in and mash the bad men to death with a hammer'. The Ogryn and Zealot charges are still useful, but way more situationally useful than just SIR KRUBERing your way through a big pack of poo poo to get at the one thing that needs killed.
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Nov 19, 2022 04:00
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Randos in L4D-alikes are always a gigantic roll of the dice and that'll never change.
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Also I feel like the grenades are much more potent now, and yeah this really incentivizes using them to gently caress up entrenched shooters.
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Nov 19, 2022 04:03
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Darktide hasn't yet nerfed itself to V2 levels where my friend who has literally never figured out charge attacks, shoves, dodges, etc. can audibly "click-click-click-click-click" his way through high difficulty missions. It still wants you to understand certain basic concepts and mechanics, and it takes a certain kind of grog to internalize that -- especially if you haven't played a Tide game before.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Darktide hasn't yet nerfed itself to V2 levels where my friend who has literally never figured out charge attacks, shoves, dodges, etc. can audibly "click-click-click-click-click" his way through high difficulty missions. It still wants you to understand certain basic concepts and mechanics, and it takes a certain kind of grog to internalize that -- especially if you haven't played a Tide game before. i try not to do this but i always panic when the scrum reaches me and start clicking until the problem goes away  same thing got to me real bad in VT2 as well
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For anyone else having performance issues, I was struggling to run the game at low settings with a 2080 and a Ryzen 7 2700. Going by some recommendations on Reddit, I turned off Steam Overlay and set the game to dedicated fullscreen and saw a genuinely noticeable improvement to the point where I'm now able to put some stuff at high while keeping a semi-smooth picture. Reminds me of that weird era in like 2011-2014 where forcing games into fullscreen would turn them from 20fps slideshows with input delay into running perfectly.
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Nov 19, 2022 04:19
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Got the krieger lasgun and its very cool. It has a very heavy thump firing sound that still has the electric crack underneath, and when you fully charge the shot it makes a little chime play thats very nice to hear as you're exploding heads with it. Bayonet attack comes out real fast too, makes it usable when defending yourself. Small note, I think they changed it from the beta where now you end up in the same hub with your party after you finish a mission, which is good.
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Nov 19, 2022 04:28
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So far the game is okay, although I certainly prefer VT2. I am pretty low level, but the weapons seem a bit limited, the missions are very dark and hard to see anything, and the psyker's damage ability doesn't seem super useful?
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Will still take some grinding to get the levels in to make the game feel closer to end-game vermintide, most of the people who play vermintide a lot probably have a few hundred unopened loot crates because they have everything already, this game is still 2 days old into open beta and we're still figuring things out and trying new weapons as they become available, a few of the classes don't look complete until level 30 talents. Will say Psyker feels a bit better after the update today, just wait for peril to drop to 97% and keep popping heads.
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moosecow333 posted:I’m level 5 and I haven’t gotten a good sword yet Which one is that?
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I don’t want the stupid Catachan blade with its stupid counter, I want the other good sword that cleaves through everything and I can stab people with it.
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Pasha posted:So far the game is okay, although I certainly prefer VT2. I am pretty low level, but the weapons seem a bit limited, the missions are very dark and hard to see anything, and the psyker's damage ability doesn't seem super useful? Yeah the game is much less fun when you have no weapon access and no talents. Right now people I'm chatting with are saying Psyker Chain Lightning is good so try that when you get to it. I haven't seen anyone use lightning yet but I did see a Psyker styling on dudes with a rapier and that was cool. Saw a Zealot with a flamer and a marksman with a charge up lasgun. I finally got a slab shield too. Looking forward to seeing how nutty things get with full kits.
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Yeah, right now we're all playing the equivalent of vermintide2 on recruit difficulty without talents and using the one handed sword or hammer, a lot of us probably forgot what that feels like being brand new to vermintide2 without that giant arsenal of weapons and finding your favorite and darktide has a whole bunch of weapon modifiers that have people saying things like the autogun and braced autogun are completely different.
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Honestly by the mid tier I think this game is better than vt2. I like the pace a lot, and the raw amount of gear and equipment and how different they all are, I like the fusion of ranged and melee. There's a lot going on. Exploring the ship a bit and theres a bunch of zones I hadn't seen before, like a place that looks like a surgeon or barber, maybe. There's a lot of little doors that could be expansion content if the game succeeds, but also I think stuff like the huge area the techpriest occupies might still be some kind of crafting system.
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Anyone know how to skip the tutorial?
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Chainclaw posted:Anyone know how to skip the tutorial? I mean when you make any operative after the first, it gives you option to skip the prologue. If you take the prologue, you're opting into the tutorial.
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TwatHammer posted:Even with my 3080ti i've been dropping sub 30 fps and stuttering. Shits kinda fuckin dumb. This lacks meaning without a resolution or RT on/off noted.
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The ragtown map is my favorite so far, definitely should be a palliative to anybody afraid of the maps only being the manufactorum from the beta. It's a huge open multi level shanty town with a variety of subojectives, including an interesting multistage finale that has you navigating a large zone.
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Friend of mine was having multiple crashes tonight and read about turning down the Scatter Density/Ragdoll/Decal settings at the bottom of the video settings by half or more and he didn't have a single crash after he did that. Who knows if that actually was the culprit but something to try if anyone's having a lot of crashes.
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Using FSR 2 on "high performance" gives super blatantly more stutter and lower frames (and obviously looks worse) than just "performance" very impressive
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DeathSandwich posted:They really ought to change difficulty 3 to open at like level 10, Difficulty 4 at 15, difficulty 5 at level 20 or something to that extent. Everyone complained at the thought of being restricted, so they didn't. This is the result
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Sorry to do this, but I read a fair bit of the thread without finding an answer. Is the Time/special dice stuff in this one the same "memorize the map and where the hidden room/jumping puzzle is" thing from previous Tides, or did they change it to something more enjoyable?
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For your sanity, please do not queue for difficulty 2 missions until you are, bare minimum, level 5. I'm serious. Even if you are capable of handling it yourself, you'll get queued with other under geared people who are not. Just do 5-6 rank one missions first. Also, what is 'hit mass' and why would I care about ignoring it? A lot of the stat references in this game are completely unexplained.
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Sharkopath posted:Honestly by the mid tier I think this game is better than vt2. For me its the setting, I've seen plenty of vermintide at this point. Feel they've really stepped up the mood with the music too. I love the zealot preacher being fanatical and single minded. Just pointing to a tin of ammo and going "HOLY AMMO! FROM THE EMPRAAAAH!". Performance is rough, rolling with a 3090 at 1440p and I'm bouncing between 60-25 fps depending if I'm mucking around with RT or not.
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SlyFrog posted:Sorry to do this, but I read a fair bit of the thread without finding an answer. They're randomized around the map now. Probably with X number of potential set places from what I've seen so people will eventually relearn it anyway but there's no jumping puzzles or hidden rooms they're just on shelves or in corners or on the floor. E: A slightly equipment spoiler-y image that may be of interest to those Ogryn-minded amongst you. 
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I can't believe how bad the weapon stats UI is lol Isn't this like their 3rd game now? How do they not have weapon stat numbers figured out? There is no explanation for any of the stats and the bars are difficult to read.
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Chainclaw posted:Anyone know how to skip the tutorial? you have to progress 1 operative past the cutscene following basic training, i believe. after that, you can make the other classes and skip the prologue mission.
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Popete posted:I can't believe how bad the weapon stats UI is lol Yeah some tooltips would really do wonders for that screen.
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Orv posted:E: A slightly equipment spoiler-y image that may be of interest to those Ogryn-minded amongst you. And a shovel, as it should be.
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Love the zealot text too like "cool stuff happens when you critically hit" How do you crit? Is it a stat? A flat chance? Do I hit weak spots? Can everyone do it? When? Where? Why??? 
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The Ogryn grenade gauntlet is so good. Love my big beautiful boi who does trigonometry to explode a sniper from across the map.
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Coming from Vermintide 2 it feels like melee in this game doesn't quite have the same great weighty feedback, I also don't feel like there's good feedback as to where I'm taking damage from. Sometimes feels like I'm taking random damage, or suddenly all my toughness disappears and I have no idea how, but I suppose that's because I'm new to the game (I do know to look behind me). Also, all the levels look the same: dark corridors leading to dark open spaces. Nothing beats bashing rats in the head in an open field on a sunny day.
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Just had a really enjoyable and smooth pub run where everyone used ranged to the max, cleared rooms as best we could before going in after heavier specials and would check behind themselves and each other constantly. Felt fantastic, if a tiny bit slow.
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Orv posted:Just had a really enjoyable and smooth pub run where everyone used ranged to the max, cleared rooms as best we could before going in after heavier specials and would check behind themselves and each other constantly. Felt fantastic, if a tiny bit slow. Nice. I just had one where we kinda did the same thing then the pubs just split up for the boss fight. 
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