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I deem it so bc I refuse to browse gws
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Rationale posted:There’s a lot to do. Trying for temporary power by February so I can do some of it. I feel like it's worth asking the fundamental question: Why donuts? (With the second fundamental question: Why retail donut sales?) They're the type of thing that requires a lot of customer traffic to generate a profit. That location doesn't look like it would be capable of handling a lot of customer traffic. There's no paved parking and no way to put in a drive-thru without doing some very significant (and very expensive) changes to the building. Your original post mentions wanting to sell 800 donuts and 800 drinks from 6-10 each morning. How do you expect that number of customers (and their cars) to get in and out of this location in that timeframe?
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Nov 19, 2022 17:33
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Sundae posted:Can this be the official BFC baking and pastry thread now? I’ll contribute a batch of pills yet donuts or something once I’m back in the states. Hell yeah, let's do it! I bought a bunch of spices like anise seed and cardamom so I can make pfeffernusse this weekend, those little German spice cookies that only get sold around Christmas. They're possibly my favorite cookie. A bunch of the spices are whole, so they're gonna get ground up and be extra fresh and good Also might make Polish honey gingerbread. It's a really cool traditional recipe, where you make the dough at least two weeks before baking, and let it age in the freezer. I've only made it twice, but I swear the spices got more intense the longer the dough aged
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Nov 19, 2022 17:43
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Rationale posted:There’s a lot to do. Trying for temporary power by February so I can do some of it. There's your market. Pivot to donuts shaped like blow-molded santa statues
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Nov 19, 2022 17:56
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I got the tude now posted:I made a snake lol wanna eat this snake
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Nov 19, 2022 17:56
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I’m gonna pave the lot and cut in drive-thru windows ya goofies
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Nov 19, 2022 18:03
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Rationale posted:I’m gonna pave the lot and cut in drive-thru windows ya goofies Okay but what is this near? Because this looks like a location for a gun store not a donut shop.
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Nov 19, 2022 18:15
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Sundae posted:Can this be the official BFC baking and pastry thread now? I’ll contribute a batch of pills yet donuts or something once I’m back in the states. Given that this thread, to date, is more of a business mockumentary thread than an actual business thread, there will be some leeway on donut-related content. But certainly nothing official about it. To all readers: the thread has already frustrated some posters who were trying to make earnest and serious-minded business recommendations. Business, finance, and career related content is desired, encouraged, and in fact necessary for this thread to continue here on a longer time horizon. But, please read this thread with your eyes open and realize the only reason it still exists here is because a large part of the community finds it entertaining. In the meantime, play nice, and use the 'report' button when appropriate. Thanks.
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Nov 19, 2022 18:29
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Not kidding- when I see places like this I think potential too. That's from living and working in an area where buying property that's already been upgraded puts it out of budgetary reach and diminishes the ability to add value/equity. Rationale posted:There’s a lot to do. Trying for temporary power by February so I can do some of it. What's the electrical and plumbing situation? Is the interior drywalled?
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Nov 19, 2022 18:32
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The interior is catastrophic. Knob and tube wiring. Water been off since the bush administration. Dead birds. Horny ghosts.
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Nov 19, 2022 18:44
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brb someone gave me a big pile of mismatched PVC and a broken toilet so I figure I should start a commercial plumbing business with it
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Nov 19, 2022 19:02
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Rationale posted:The interior is catastrophic. Knob and tube wiring. Water been off since the bush administration. Dead birds. Horny ghosts. Whoa, ok got it. This isn't a massive building, it's about the size of four 2-car garages, and about the easiest situation to rewire. Since you can handle the plumbing, that seems feasible too. You mentioned a $200k estimate. Does that figure seem fairly accurate to you?
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Nov 19, 2022 19:11
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does anyone know how to connect a toilet to a sewer line with PVC? What kind of glue should I buy?
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Nov 19, 2022 19:12
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Giraffe posted:does anyone know how to connect a toilet to a sewer line with PVC? What kind of glue should I buy? Just get what they have at the dollar store. It shouldn't make a difference.
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Giraffe posted:does anyone know how to connect a toilet to a sewer line with PVC? What kind of glue should I buy? gently caress all that you need to make a spreadsheet or two before you’re qualified to jimmy the shitter
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Nov 19, 2022 19:21
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Rationale posted:I’m gonna pave the lot and cut in drive-thru windows ya goofies based on the appearance of the lot, in southern california there would likely be environmental permitting requirements at multiple levels to do the paving. especially if it's going to impinge on the trees behind the building. it's very likely to be less strict where you are, but you should definitely check your local regulations
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Nov 19, 2022 19:26
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Rationale posted:I’m gonna pave the lot and cut in drive-thru windows ya goofies Rationale posted:The interior is catastrophic. Knob and tube wiring. Water been off since the bush administration. Dead birds. Horny ghosts. So you have to modify everything except MAYBE the plumbing? Baking chat: I'm gonna try to make a pie (apple) for the first time in my life today. Its my dead grandmas recipe. The recipe card is dated 1984 and it definitely contains ingredients that she did not put in when I was a kid helper to said pie making. If good, bringing it to thanksgiving. Wish me luck.
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Nov 19, 2022 19:39
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Rationale posted:gently caress all that you need to make a spreadsheet or two before you’re qualified to jimmy the shitter You thinking plumbing in a toilet and running a business are even remotely comparable is in fact the entire problem, you are going to lose all your money, and my only hope is that you don’t have enough time to employ anyone who comes to rely on their job to survive, because no-one else deserves to get taken down by your insane levels of hubris
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Nov 19, 2022 19:40
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Giraffe posted:brb someone gave me a big pile of mismatched PVC and a broken toilet so I figure I should start a commercial plumbing business with it why not a drive through toilet?
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Nov 19, 2022 19:44
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Sell the money pit and rent in a viable location.
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Nov 19, 2022 19:47
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Will you buy ir
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Nov 19, 2022 20:03
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Lmao pics of the donut hovel were exactly what I expected, this is going to work out great. I’m sure all the used commercial kitchen equipment you bought has brightened that place up. Maybe you can pave the drive thru with unsold donuts?
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Nov 19, 2022 20:04
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:based on the appearance of the lot, in southern california there would likely be environmental permitting requirements at multiple levels to do the paving. especially if it's going to impinge on the trees behind the building. it's very likely to be less strict where you are, but you should definitely check your local regulations This is rural Ohio or maybe Pennsylvania I don’t think they have regulations
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Nov 19, 2022 20:04
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Big Taint posted:Lmao pics of the donut hovel were exactly what I expected, this is going to work out great. I’m sure all the used commercial kitchen equipment you bought has brightened that place up. Maybe you can pave the drive thru with unsold donuts? No lie the “soil” is mostly old plates and mugs.
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Nov 19, 2022 20:07
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it is a shame for anyone who missed the interior shots dude's wife inherited a warehouse-shaped time capsule
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Nov 19, 2022 20:08
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n8r posted:Sell the money pit and rent in a viable location. Yea thats what I dont get. If running a donut business is such a good idea, why start with the building? Retail/restaurant space there is what? $25/sf/yr? You maybe need 1500 square feet? So call it $35k-$40k/yr to lease. Versus what are the costs of owning and operating from this location? - Renovation, landscaping, etc. seems like it'd be at LEAST 2-3 years of a lease, even if a lot is DIY. - Mowing the lawn, fixing poo poo post reno, installing hear/AC - Property taxes + insurance - Financing (I think you said you own outright so maybe not this) - Lost revenue due to opening delays - Opportunity cost due to having less business because you are stuck wherever this is rather than a more desirable space ...seems like that could pretty easily eclipse $40K/yr. That said I get some of that is an investment in the building you expect to recoup potentially. I also get the emotional aspect of owning something without debt.
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Nov 19, 2022 20:10
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Rationale posted:No lie the “soil” is mostly old plates and mugs. lol this rules call your donut shop The Path of Glory
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Nov 19, 2022 20:27
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I guess her granddad built the place because his landlord doubled the rent
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Nov 19, 2022 20:36
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pmchem posted:Given that this thread, to date, is more of a business mockumentary thread than an actual business thread, there will be some leeway on donut-related content. But certainly nothing official about it. Seriously any poster frustrated that there is a lack of “serious business related content” after reading the first 5 pages of this thread should be given a sixer to think about it for a minute. It’s obvious that it’s either a troll, or if not a troll OP is def not going to actually listen to any real advice. It’s like someone on page 100 of the Zaurg thread wondering why the moron wouldn’t just listen to the great advice people posted. Some people just can’t be helped out of the well, so all you can do is piss in it.
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Nov 19, 2022 20:40
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Sundae posted:Can this be the official BFC baking and pastry thread now? I’ll contribute a batch of pills yet donuts or something once I’m back in the states. Made some rainbow bagels the other day for a work thing. My bagel forming skills need work but they came out pretty good and were really tasty. The everything flavored ones went fast, should have made more of them:  What they look like when you cut them in half: 
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Nov 19, 2022 20:58
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Sirotan posted:Made some rainbow bagels the other day for a work thing. My bagel forming skills need work but they came out pretty good and were really tasty. The everything flavored ones went fast, should have made more of them: These look fantastic!
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Nov 19, 2022 21:23
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Repost the interior pictures. I missed them the first time and without them it's impossible to give 100% accurate donut drive-thru advice
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Nov 19, 2022 21:30
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Sirotan posted:Made some rainbow bagels the other day for a work thing. My bagel forming skills need work but they came out pretty good and were really tasty. The everything flavored ones went fast, should have made more of them: Ooh they're so pretty! Good job
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Nov 19, 2022 21:31
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Sirotan posted:Made some rainbow bagels the other day for a work thing. My bagel forming skills need work but they came out pretty good and were really tasty. The everything flavored ones went fast, should have made more of them: Those are pretty cool
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Nov 19, 2022 21:38
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Sirotan posted:Made some rainbow bagels the other day for a work thing. My bagel forming skills need work but they came out pretty good and were really tasty. The everything flavored ones went fast, should have made more of them: I'll take a half dozen. Are you selling? 
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Residency Evil posted:I'll take a half dozen. Are you selling? lol definitely not but good news! Somebody else is via Goldbelly!! https://www.goldbelly.com/baz-bagel/dozen-rainbow-bagels-3-free-ny-classic-bagels?ref=search&search_id=72596670
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Sirotan posted:lol definitely not but good news! Somebody else is via Goldbelly!! https://www.goldbelly.com/baz-bagel/dozen-rainbow-bagels-3-free-ny-classic-bagels?ref=search&search_id=72596670 $83 with free shipping? How can I say no!?
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Nov 19, 2022 22:03
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Doesn’t even come with cream cheese
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Sounds like you should be in the bagel business instead. Undercut them at $80/dozen with cream cheese. Figure you sell 100 dozen a day and you’re looking at an easy $240,000 per month minus expenses.
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Have you finished that toilet yet
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