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pseudanonymous posted:I would guess it's more like they are going to try to monetize proxies for themselves. I mean that's what M30 was, but yeah I suppose it's possible they'd lean into more "official proxy" products
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LGD posted:I mean that's what M30 was, but yeah I suppose it's possible they'd lean into more "official proxy" products I totally foresee like gold bolder editions of cards coming out. Oh these are for playtest, not for official play, and since commander is the most popular format and doesn't have official play, it lets them skirt a lot of issues and still make money off of proxies. I better put in a big order at MPC.
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Even if they take down all the proxy-making tools at least we can always print out MTG Goldfish text proxies, plus there other sites that can get you ones with the art. I don't think there's anything they can do to stop people from playing the game for basically free.
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Saw pics of some dude who made his own magic cards in some lovely for-profit-only prison in texas. used toothpaste to "glue" them to playing cards. just wrote rules he could remember onto paper scraps. theoretically you could just playing magic without any cards, but mental-shuffling seems rife for questionable draws. End of the day Wizards needs Magic Players more than Magic players need them. If Wizards went out of business tomorrow... there'd be new fan created set continuing the latest unresolved story, probably a kickstarter to get a print run going within the month. There are totally obscure TCG that still get new sets by fanatics decades later, if Wizards went away a game as old and popular as Magic would instantly have so many people all over it working to forge news sets and standards.
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pseudanonymous posted:I totally foresee like gold bolder editions of cards coming out. Oh these are for playtest, not for official play, and since commander is the most popular format and doesn't have official play, it lets them skirt a lot of issues and still make money off of proxies. It'd be nice to be able to copy all the images in one of the Google Drives that mpcfill uses.
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gently caress. May need to do an MPC order sooner than later.
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Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item November 17, 2022, 12:00 pm Shipping Partner: DHL ECOMMERCE BRING ME MY DAMNED PROXIES, SKREEEEEE!
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Framboise posted:gently caress. May need to do an MPC order sooner than later. 
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Batterypowered7 posted:It'd be nice to be able to copy all the images in one of the Google Drives that mpcfill uses. You can, there's no reason you cant? Well they have to have their link be public. But most of the drives you can go to the person's actual drive and look around, and copy images if you want. I have the backups from when MPC went down for a while, several hundred GB of images.
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Hell has frozen over and I have received shipping notification for Heads I Win, Tails You Lose.
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pseudanonymous posted:You can, there's no reason you cant? I hadn't snooped around too much on MPCfill to see if there were public links. I was under the impression that people had gotten spooked a few years ago and taken all their links down so as to not incur Wizards' wrath. Looks like WillieTanner, the most prolific uploader, doesn't have a link to his on there, but a few others do. e: Expected Delivery on SATURDAY 19 November 2022 by 9:00pm Your item arrived at the Post Office at 8:33 pm on November 18, 2022 Oh thank GOD. I was going crazy with anticipation. Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Nov 19, 2022 |
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Friend just told me the game store closest to him does Pioneer and cEDH for FNM. If you win a [cEDH] pod you get packs equal to the number of players in the pod, lmao (there are multiple pods per night)
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Batterypowered7 posted:Friend just told me the game store closest to him does Pioneer and cEDH for FNM. If you win a [cEDH] pod you get packs equal to the number of players in the pod, lmao (there are multiple pods per night) That's kind of how my store does it. $5 buy-in for cEDH, winner takes all in store credit from the pod (so $15 store credit for a 3 person pod, 20 for 4, etc).
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We do a Sunday night commander where it's a pot of $5 per person for a 3 round commander tournament, points are based on standing in each pod plus a random point assignment based on colour to split out the scores more evenly. Winner takes 40% of the pot, second takes 30% etc.
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My store does packs as prizes - $5 for entry, one draft pack to the prize pool per entry. I got 2nd in a 7 player event and got two packs, which felt bad - I'd rather have spent the 5 bucks on singles
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My store just does buy here play here with freeplay for commander. Then they roll off some promo packs.
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Commander players complaining about event EV, lol. iT's A cAsUaL FoRmAt
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Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:Commander players complaining about event EV, lol. iT's A cAsUaL FoRmAt Who's complaining?
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Here to report that this batch of 504 proxies do not stink.
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Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:Commander players complaining about event EV, lol. iT's A cAsUaL FoRmAt Commander players comparing prize support in different game stores isn't complaining about EV.
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Front and back samples:  A few of the decks had two-faced cards so I had to use the remaining four card slots to print the missing cards for the decks on the back. E: -Sleeving report- The cards barely fit in the Ultra Pro acrylic boxes after I double-sleeved them.  Not sure if most acrylic boxes are like this, but these get thicker toward the bottom. There is literally no room for a single other card in there. I'm going to split the next deck I sleeve up into a few piles and put them under a heavy book overnight to see if that flattens them enough to fit into the deck box comfortably. Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Nov 20, 2022 |
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This is not on you but seeing the stupid lazy rear end way the extended art is implemented is my biggest pet peeve. With the legendary border it looks fine but any normal card has that stupid top half of the coloured border over the name which highlights the harshest gradient possible with vehicles looking particularly horrendous. I think either getting rid of the colour border and having a curved sunset gradient would look so much better. Or extend the art up above the name and call them half art cards vs bordered and full art.
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Batterypowered7 posted:
Yeah those specific ultra pro boxes aren't great for double sleeved or commander decks with tokens.
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Reynold posted:Yeah those specific ultra pro boxes aren't great for double sleeved or commander decks with tokens. It's 'cause I used Dragon Shields. I've got a different deck in some shittier sleeves and that one fit well, even while double-sleeved.
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Saw somewhere that you can run a local version of card conjurer. Haven't set it up yet but didn't seem too hard from the instructions. Not trying to be competitive but I can tell what I put together is really messy https://www.moxfield.com/decks/qJyQdT8IfEi5TbQ6dkOPbg I've been wanting to make a snow deck, never played the snow sets and its cold outside and I just want to make this. Kinda just added a ton of the snow cards that seemed good, went with Jorn, God of Winter as commander. The other snow commander options had too high mana costs or didn't lean into snow every much. It's funny how cheap this deck is, so many snow cards dirt cheap lol. Casual deck but also i still want it to be like actually trying to do something while being winter themed. I think my main wincon will just be face-beating, but I have a couple ways to keep all the untapped mana I should have floating around, and if I understand these cards correctly(Kruphix god and horizon stone), I keep that mana basically until I lose it or these cards removed... assuming that's really how it works, then I have a few win conditions based on dumping mana into stuff like Dark Depths. regarding Dark Depths: Does Thespian's stage copy it exactly, like if I play it with only 3 counters, does the copy also only have 3 tokens or does it start with a full 20? I'm guessing the former since Thespian's stage already done entered the battlefield and I don't think copying this way counts as that card entering the battlefield? Could be totally wrong. This might also not even be a good combo now that I'm typing about it. 30 mana just to summon a 20/20 is already a moonshot, and trying to copy it at the right time seems eh. Sounded fun last night when I was building this but seems hard to pull off and not that crazy if I do, one extra big boy to remove. I think Exsanguinate could also be a wincon if I end up floating a crazy amount of mana. Hmm, wondering now if I should have at least a third way to keep unspent mana or maybe something else to do with it when I get it. I might also be lacking card draw and removal. I put a maze of ith in there thinking maybe I can use it to protect my commander on the field but I guess plenty of other ways to remove him if he's not equipped with hexproof and stuff. List is really creature heavy, partially because I'm really wanting a very icey snowy deck. I looked at one of those crazy 5,000 dollar deck lists and it loses so many snow creatures that they are basically the kinda generic $$$ deck full of expensive s-class staples, except snow lands thrown in. Which I guess is the strongest thing to untap and lean into but still, not very wintery. lol I added Frozen Shade because its frozen and looks cool with a edgar allen poe flavor text, but realizing now any big-mana I have will be mostly colorless so I cant pump her into a surprise threat. Looks like I got room to cut from creatures. I think I'm missing ramp/land-finding, partially because most of those are super generic and just not fun to think about when first deckbuilding, but also most of the ones I know are very very green and warm. I am still half tempted to cut Kruphix just because he's clearly in a very muggy warm environment. He's made of space and space is cold, though so he can stay. I saw a few Jorn decks that leaned into Control with tons of cards like Winter Orb that just freeze other players mana or boards, but while thematically appropriate, seems like everyone at the table would just be bored and annoyed. at the same time, lmao if everyone is getting 1 mana per turn except for me, who gets all my mana when Jorn attacks. Frozen Aether feels more chill and fair so I threw that in. Are there some colder rampant growths out there? I kinda struggle to figure out what to do with untapping snow-creatures as Jorn goes to combat. With Rime Tender, I think I would tap her to untap a land, then when Jorn attacks, untap her and then tap her again to untap another land. Makes sense I think, but not many snow creatures have something I can do with that. and like, if i untap a tapped creature, I can't suddenly attack with them since Jorn would have already gone to combat phase, right? Or is "whenever jorn attacks" when he actually hits something, ive been assuming its just when attacks declared.
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MasterBuilder posted:This is not on you but seeing the stupid lazy rear end way the extended art is implemented is my biggest pet peeve. With the legendary border it looks fine but any normal card has that stupid top half of the coloured border over the name which highlights the harshest gradient possible with vehicles looking particularly horrendous. I think either getting rid of the colour border and having a curved sunset gradient would look so much better. Or extend the art up above the name and call them half art cards vs bordered and full art. That's... I'm not sure what word to use here, Fake Squared? There is no real extended art Swan Song.
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Khanstant posted:Saw somewhere that you can run a local version of card conjurer. Haven't set it up yet but didn't seem too hard from the instructions. Someone also set this up: https://www.printingproxies.com/mtg-proxy-card-editor/creator/ saying it addressed all the complaints from Wizards' lawyers or something along those lines. Aphrodite posted:That's... I'm not sure what word to use here, Fake Squared? Yeah, I've just grabbed the fan-made versions of all the cards with "extended" art.
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Khanstant posted:regarding Dark Depths: Does Thespian's stage copy it exactly, like if I play it with only 3 counters, does the copy also only have 3 tokens or does it start with a full 20? I'm guessing the former since Thespian's stage already done entered the battlefield and I don't think copying this way counts as that card entering the battlefield? Could be totally wrong. This might also not even be a good combo now that I'm typing about it. 30 mana just to summon a 20/20 is already a moonshot, and trying to copy it at the right time seems eh. Sounded fun last night when I was building this but seems hard to pull off and not that crazy if I do, one extra big boy to remove. Thespian's Stage becomes a copy of dark depths with 0 counters on it, regardless of how many Dark Depths had. Unless you have a mirror box or whatever, you couldn't make two marit lages anyway since they're legendary.
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LibrarianCroaker posted:Thespian's Stage becomes a copy of dark depths with 0 counters on it, regardless of how many Dark Depths had. Oh poo poo, well, wouldn't that just mean I could get out a Marit Lage for basically free once I have Dark Depths and Thespian's Stage in the battlefield? that seems crazy!
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Khanstant posted:Oh poo poo, well, wouldn't that just mean I could get out a Marit Lage for basically free once I have Dark Depths and Thespian's Stage in the battlefield? that seems crazy! Yes. This is how the legacy decks built around Depths work.
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Very cool, I'll definitely add a few more cards to help cheat out or even copy Marit Lages. You know I haven't built a commander deck yet where I absolutely want some specific pieces bad enough to add any proper tutor cards, but some of the Marit Lage combos seem pretty fun and now I sorta want to be able to nab em on demand too lol. and its not so many cards that this deck veers away from snow. I need to play commander more regularly cause I play Draft pretty consistently every week and I keep evaluating cards for my commander decks as if I were drafting and getting excited about draft chaff I shouldn't actually put in my commander decks
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Khanstant posted:Oh poo poo, well, wouldn't that just mean I could get out a Marit Lage for basically free once I have Dark Depths and Thespian's Stage in the battlefield? that seems crazy! Yep. Please note that this does not work with the similar copying land Vesuva, which etbs as a copy and consequently gets the full 20 counters.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Someone also set this up: https://www.printingproxies.com/mtg-proxy-card-editor/creator/ saying it addressed all the complaints from Wizards' lawyers or something along those lines. This has been taken down by the creator with a note that a more rules compliant Cardconjurer is coming "very soon."
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I brought my Drake posted:This has been taken down by the creator with a note that a more rules compliant Cardconjurer is coming "very soon." Didn't even last a day! Lol At least there's always the option of running locally hosted versions [if this doesn't work out].
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Goons, need some help with this one. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/uBYnLZYmO0O-OARcbk5DAQ This is having trouble getting off the ground and I want it to work well. I did get proxies of the most expensive stuff in here, so that's not an issue, i just have problems getting an engine going. Thoughts?
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Is there ever a situation in which you have been conceivably able to kick Josu Vess and have it be worth it?
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No, you're right. Any suggestions what to pull for that?
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 Looks like these boxes will fit exactly 98 double-sleeved cards (KMC Perfects, Dragon Shield Matte), so I'm just putting the 99th and the commander on top like so and calling it a day. E: 
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Batterypowered7 posted:
I wanted to No self control 
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Nerdlord Actual posted:Goons, need some help with this one. Tell us how you want to win the game.
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