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Oct 9, 2005


Vegetable posted:

Alexa was still a good idea for them. It’s a land grab. If they didn’t do it then Google and Apple would be controlling the market.

Their problem was overinvestment. They hired expensive teams to build features in Alexa that no one uses. I think some report said the vast majority of users use Alexa only for two or three basic features, like playing music or checking the weather.

I might use mine for more if:

1. It didn't usually gently caress up going anything more complicated than the above

2. Alexa learned to stfu and stop suggesting I do more random dumb engagement poo poo every single time I ask about the weather. Even turning on the stfu mode buried in its horrible options menu doesn't fix this. Somewhere a user experience person or algorithm is probably listening to me and thousands of others tell Alexa to SHUT UP and taking notes on when expletives are added.

I mean whatever, it's better at figuring out poo poo than OK Google is.

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Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/9NewsPerth/status/1594633908733321217

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

I think you'll find that e-waste owns, actually.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Drones crashing down on top of you from sky for no reason?

Now people in the West can experience their foreign policy firsthand!

Owling Howl
Jul 17, 2019

Eric Cantonese posted:

So would it have taken a long time for the market to catch up to what Alexa is capable of?

I have family and friends who use Alexa and Google's voice command features pretty extensively. I know this isn't the most compelling use case, but it's really convenient for setting up multiple cooking timers when you're cooking a big meal.

Problem is how do you monetize it? Setting timers is no doubt useful but Amazon doesn't sell anything when you do it. The same is true for playing music, checking the weather, setting calendar notifications etc. Amazon needs you to buy poo poo from them or sell you ads and Alexa isn't a good conduit for either. Google has the same problem. Siri as a feature probably sells more Apple phones than if it didn't exist so there might be some financial justification for it.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Jaxyon posted:

Drones crashing down on top of you from sky for no reason?

Now people in the West can experience their foreign policy firsthand!

One of the more haunting parts of Omar El-Akkad’s American War was post-apocalypse America being haunted by uncontrolled autonomous killer drones (originally set up for US border security I think) that would randomly ping what the drone thought was a hostile and come down and wipe out whole groups of people with nothing that could be done to stop them.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

lol it's sponsored by Gina Rinehart one of Australia's worst mining billionaires (she was at Trump's election announcement the other day for some reason) hence the "Roy Hill" up in lights. They had to let everyone know who was paying for christmas

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Arivia posted:

One of the more haunting parts of Omar El-Akkad’s American War was post-apocalypse America being haunted by uncontrolled autonomous killer drones (originally set up for US border security I think) that would randomly ping what the drone thought was a hostile and come down and wipe out whole groups of people with nothing that could be done to stop them.

Yeah that's been what we've been doing to large groups of people in other countries for over a decade. It is haunting and horrifying.


I don't know if the fact that they're run by people instead of fully autonomous makes it any better.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


People you can at least put on trial. Have you ever tried to take a major corporation on trial? Or worse, the US military, which doesn't let you sue them except under special circumstances (I've been hearing a lot about a lawsuit for Camp Lejeune recently).

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Jaxyon posted:

Yeah that's been what we've been doing to large groups of people in other countries for over a decade. It is haunting and horrifying.


I don't know if the fact that they're run by people instead of fully autonomous makes it any better.

Yes, sorry, if it wasn’t obvious I was agreeing with you. El-Akkad is a Canadian journalist and a big theme of the book is “what if what the US did elsewhere across the world was visited upon it instead.” Highly recommended.

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!

Severe lack of swan song jokes about this. I'm very disappointed.

Philman
Jan 20, 2004

if they were going to fly them over water why didn't they give the drones lifejackets?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Arivia posted:

One of the more haunting parts of Omar El-Akkad’s American War was post-apocalypse America being haunted by uncontrolled autonomous killer drones (originally set up for US border security I think) that would randomly ping what the drone thought was a hostile and come down and wipe out whole groups of people with nothing that could be done to stop them.

I need to rewatch Screamers with Peter Weller...

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!
How has Twitter been holding up through the World's Cup without engineers?

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Well I'm hearing reports of the Fail Whale has returned.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Kwyndig posted:

Well I'm hearing reports of the Fail Whale has returned.

The what now?

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

This.



Twitter displays it when it's over capacity. It hasn't really been a thing for ten years. Coincidentally, the event that it got really common during was the World Cup (I think 2011's), which practically brought Twitter down.

edit: It was 2010's.

Prism fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Nov 22, 2022

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Alexa might have become popular in business settings but it looks like Amazon gave up on that 18 months ago and stopped updating their blog

https://aws.amazon.com/alexaforbusiness/

They had ready-to-go video calling hardware to integrate with their own meetings platform (Chime) or could have charged a fee to bridge it into Zoom, Teams or whatever but seemed to be even less focused than Google at seeing an idea through.

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

Thanks Ants posted:

They had ready-to-go video calling hardware

Meta also had ready-to-go video calling hardware. Let's check in with them and see if their attempt is fairing any better...

https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/1594894813446696960

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



That's what you get for pulling Xmas poo poo in November. Also wow that company owner and mayor look skeevey as gently caress. I guess Taxpayers lose again!

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
"Please come back. And tell your friends what a cool guy I am."

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1595050213877628929

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Pretty sure Elon is just loving with people or performing some elaborate social experiment to see how much employees will tolerate at this point.

He has already said that he doesn't understand coding and nobody is going to read 1,200 emails per week of code and attached summaries of what they are working on.

https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1594857578256748544

quote:

Elon Musk wants every Twitter employee sending weekly updates about their work via email now.Per an internal memo to employees that I obtained, every Friday all Twitter employees are required to send an email update on their work with the subject line structure: “Weekly Update, name, dept, and date.”Inside the email, they must include what project they are working on, “code samples” if relevant or summaries of work for non-technical work, and what they have been trying to accomplish.“Looking forward to making Twitter the highest performing tech software company in the world,” the internal memo ends. Hardcore!

Owling Howl
Jul 17, 2019

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Pretty sure Elon is just loving with people or performing some elaborate social experiment to see how much employees will tolerate at this point.

He has already said that he doesn't understand coding and nobody is going to read 1,200 emails per week of code and attached summaries of what they are working on.

Well no but it forces people to make impressive lists on a weekly basis so in theory it'll be the equivalent of managment boosting short term earnings to look good when the quarterly report comes out. Except employees can just make poo poo up and no matter what they write Elon may pull up the latest email at any time and fire them after "reviewing" their work.

follow that camel!!
Jan 1, 2006

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

...nobody is going to read 1,200 emails per week of code and attached summaries of what they are working on.

Nobody sane, but I find it plausible that the same type of randoms who tweet at Elon about how they'll show up and fix Twitter's codebase were able to sell him on the idea of getting paid to do code review via email attachments. I feel like he would grasp at any kind of life preserver at this point, even if it's made of lead.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
He's either counting on being able to punt all those e-mails to a dedicated review staff or he's just trying to create the illusion of productivity and fastidiousness in an effort to somehow make the working culture and the company "look" better to others.

This does smack a lot of bad consulting methods for increasing accountability and cross-silo communication.

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Can't wait for the Musk tweet that says he's sure his team will finally crack the "FizzBuzz" issue that everyone has been using so much time on.

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.
"Both N and P are complete!"

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Pretty sure Elon is just loving with people or performing some elaborate social experiment to see how much employees will tolerate at this point.

He has already said that he doesn't understand coding and nobody is going to read 1,200 emails per week of code and attached summaries of what they are working on.

https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1594857578256748544

Surely some of his sycophants or if there's any senior code folks still there convinced him of this. Like just riding this poo poo to the end of the line I'm sure with some rear end kissing someone convinced him this was good so now that that person/group's job is to do nothing except on Friday afternoon when they forward this so Musk with a "Wow this code checks out, looks great"

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:


nobody is going to read 1,200 emails per week of code and attached summaries of what they are working on.

This is a guy that searches his own name on Twitter for people to personally ban

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Mister Facetious posted:

This is a guy that searches his own name on Twitter for people to personally ban

Ahh the lowtaxification of elon musk continues.

Are we sure he isn't being possessed at this point?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Ahh the lowtaxification of elon musk continues.

Are we sure he isn't being possessed at this point?

We haven’t seen any signs of mangosteen addiction. Yet.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
At this point I’m pretty sure there are ghosts of Internet Past, Present, and Future that come to haunt those who become too online.

Instead of the ghost of a friend showing them his chains, it’s just Dril whispering in their ear, “theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you loving moron”

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Ahh the lowtaxification of elon musk continues.

Are we sure he isn't being possessed at this point?

He overbought Twitter for $44 billion not Goldbelly and a warehouse of grenade logo t-shirts.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



https://twitter.com/verge/status/1595039692717973505?cxt=HHwWgoDT8cmJ3KIsAAAA

I was most amused by the spokespeople who expressed shock and horror that the Facebook plugin they deliberately installed on their secure website would just vacuum up personal user information like that.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I hate it when you accidentally create an account with Meta and implement one of their tracking pixels

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
They all take their users’ privacy very seriously!

withak fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Nov 22, 2022

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

"Please come back. And tell your friends what a cool guy I am."

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1595050213877628929
lmao it's like getting partway through a project and going "this all stinks, I've messed it up, I'm gonna start again and do it properly this time" except with a company you paid $44b for


like it would not surprise me if "twitter 2.0" is literally a ground-up rewrite

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

TACD posted:

lmao it's like getting partway through a project and going "this all stinks, I've messed it up, I'm gonna start again and do it properly this time" except with a company you paid $44b for


like it would not surprise me if "twitter 2.0" is literally a ground-up rewrite

This assumes he has the money to do it.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

follow that camel!! posted:

Nobody sane, but I find it plausible that the same type of randoms who tweet at Elon about how they'll show up and fix Twitter's codebase were able to sell him on the idea of getting paid to do code review via email attachments. I feel like he would grasp at any kind of life preserver at this point, even if it's made of lead.

I hope someone sends him the same email with the same code every week and sees how long it takes Elon to notice, if ever.

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Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

Evil Fluffy posted:

I hope someone sends him the same email with the same code every week and sees how long it takes Elon to notice, if ever.

Elon can just have one of his engineers write some code to scrape these emails into an excel file and highlight the duplicates. Oh wait...

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