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BombiTheZombie posted:Just had a go with an Accatran MKVIIa Recon Lasgun, thing is super accurate sure but it just doesnt have the killing power needed to clear out shooters. Even headshots seem to take at least three per guy. That's the Spicy Queen I have! I think it's going to get overwhelmed at higher haz levels, but with the right stats, the thing does melt enemies. If you have the talent that gives you extra crit when you ads, I think it makes it very good. Don't give up on it yet! (or wait until you can craft a better version)
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skaianDestiny posted:Okay so there's daemonhosts now??? Yeah, it's really relentless. If it downs someone and does the force-choke on it how do you save that person? I didn't see any promps to assist my ally when I ran near them so I just attacked the thing a bunch thinking it was like a DPS check but that didn't help.
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Jimbot posted:Yeah, it's really relentless. You have to kill it then and there.
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Jimbot posted:Yeah, it's really relentless. As far as i know its basically an instant kill on that person after the channel. Usually she seems to focus on whoever startled her. Her attacks go through block and seem undodgeable, and add a huge chunk of corruption as well. Basically, dont startle or one person will die unless you can manage to burst the dodgy bastard down. Oh and last dark map i ran i had 4 daemonhosts spawn during a map, usually during chokepoints that took some thinking to find a skip for.
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Nov 27, 2022 01:14
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BombiTheZombie posted:As far as i know its basically an instant kill on that person after the channel. Usually she seems to focus on whoever startled her. Her attacks go through block and seem undodgeable, and add a huge chunk of corruption as well. I don't think it's unblockable. We had an Ogryn with a shield just tank them. Also it seems there are 4 per map? They have a shitton of HP.
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Internet Explorer posted:I don't think it's unblockable. We had an Ogryn with a shield just tank them. Also it seems there are 4 per map? They have a shitton of HP. Oh its not unblockable but every blocked attack seems to add corruption through the block. You can still avoid the HP damage but once your HP is corrupted enough to have one bar left of uncorrupted HP it will channel its instakill beam on ya
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Don't go down a drop-down if you alert a daemonhost at the top of the drop-down. The model fails to actually drop down but the actual daemonhost will still be with you so you will have to kill it while it is invisible; you can tell where it is because it will have some swirling mist around it whenever it does the animation to kill someone. My team only survived it because it was the interrogator room on the coolant map so everyone kept respawning one by one there as the next person was being killed.
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Nov 27, 2022 01:25
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Pennsylvanian posted:I really like the new desert mission. Must suck if you're not set up for range, though. Babby Ogryn verdict : I don't like sand. it's coarse and my rear end gets all shot up in it.
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Nov 27, 2022 01:25
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Just did a Lights Out mission and I'm really amazed how well the map worked. The environmental artists have clearly intended the rooms to be visually interesting and navigable under different conditions. Its also really creepy to look across a long hall and see 15 pairs of green optics looking back at you.
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Nov 27, 2022 01:41
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Is Quick Play on a map rotation that rotates every hour? So we all get the same map each hour? Seems like a lot of duplicate back to back missions.
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Internet Explorer posted:Is Quick Play on a map rotation that rotates every hour? So we all get the same map each hour? Seems like a lot of duplicate back to back missions. I assume people gravitate towards the easiest missions (based on modifiers) or sub objectives they need to farm, which would result in you "randomly" getting matched with people farming whatever the current hot mission is.
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Internet Explorer posted:Is Quick Play on a map rotation that rotates every hour? So we all get the same map each hour? Seems like a lot of duplicate back to back missions. Not exactly. It's a symptom of the way the random missions are set up right now. You look at the mission screen and you see around a dozen available options, but they're split up across 5 difficulties. So if you're Quickplaying the same difficulty each time (like I imagine 98% of players), you only have 2-3 potential maps you can be dropped into. The game will happily place you into the same map two times in a row, especially if multiple options are the same map with different random modifiers. It's not a great system IMO. I've said it before, but difficulty should be something that the player specifies after they choose the map. Cut the map rotation down to ~6 at a time to compensate so the population doesn't get too diluted. The current phenomenon of getting the same Quickplay map multiple times in a row simply sucks.
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Also it would probably help with giving a sense of direction in the world if the big mission menu wasn't pointing to 4 different places for the exact same map, but with modifiers.
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It reminds me of the big confusing payday 2 level selection map but iirc that let you change difficulties once you selected a mission so it really didn't matter all that much as long as you picked the mission you wanted.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Also it would probably help with giving a sense of direction in the world if the big mission menu wasn't pointing to 4 different places for the exact same map, but with modifiers. Yes, agreed. You could make an argument that selecting your own difficulty would diminish the kayfabe of responding to enemy threats, but right now seeing multiple of the same mission up is much worse.
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I JUST FOUGHT A DEMONHOST WHAT THE gently caress
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Kaysette posted:Got these three in two games back to back. Way easier than the psyker ones. What's the trick to the grenade one?
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S.J. posted:I JUST FOUGHT A DEMONHOST WHAT THE gently caress SAME, first time seeing one and it showed up twice in the same mission. It auto killed two of us and we sat there while our level 2 Vet who never pulled out his melee weapon slowly CODed his way through the dark map, only to get pounced by a hound right as the bot ally was replaced by a Psyker, who head popped the hound but then exploded themself doing further head pops instead of getting the Vet up and failed the mission for us.
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These dark missions are pretty tough but the worst map condition is still having an Ogryn with a shield on your team. At least in the dark maps you can use your guns. e: Also if all Ogryn can stop using their charge that would be rad. I can't think of any time I saw one and went "whoa that was used well" but I can think of dozens of times it scattered a horde I had controlled and got me overwhelmed or whatever. Actually just stop playing Ogryn, because goddamn. e2: Is there any way to increase the friendly fire damage I deal deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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deep dish peat moss posted:These dark missions are pretty tough but the worst map condition is still having an Ogryn with a shield on your team. At least in the dark maps you can use your guns. what the gently caress
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New dark mission condition and Daemonhosts own and are terrifying. We really did a fuckin monkey paw when someone went "I'm sick of Endless Horde"
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Cease to Hope posted:The Krourk Mk IV Cleaver (a stainless steel bowie knife with a grooved blade and with no handguard) looks extremely cool but just sucks. Both of its combos are mainly single-target strikes, but it's only about as good as the shovel or club for single-target damage. You're giving up almost all of your ability to clear hordes in return for nothing. I only just realized there are different kinds of Cleavers.  I was wondering why my new Cleaver seemed to use attacks that were different from those of my previous one, and also why it seemed noticeably less useful. Turns out my 'upgrade' is a sucky Krourk Mk IV. Time to buy a Bull Butcher instead.
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Broken Cog posted:Man, queuing for malice and getting 2 level 4's and a level 3 does not make for a fun run. Just bail. No reason to waste time on that kind of run. If I see a lvl 3 lobby with more than one person under 15? Gone, re-try in a second.
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Killed a Daemonhost with 15 consecutive chainsword tears to the face, because my team managed to trigger it despite being in a wide open arena  Unfortunately it took the two survivors down a lot and the other person couldn't fight so we just wiped anyways. Don't shoot the drat thing, leave it alone! Cyrano4747 posted:Just bail. No reason to waste time on that kind of run. If I see a lvl 3 lobby with more than one person under 15? Gone, re-try in a second. Are you sure you aren't talking about level 5 because level 3s are not *that* hard. Or do you demand a royal palisade to be placed upon so that you can be carted through the level? CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Just bail. No reason to waste time on that kind of run. If I see a lvl 3 lobby with more than one person under 15? Gone, re-try in a second. lol
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Thinking about it now, I'm not sure I've ever heard a female veteran's voice acting.
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If you can tell they obv have higher level characters then I don't see a reason to just bail.
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On my new characters I've stepped up to malice at like level 7 or so, as soon as I can get a real set of melee / ranged weapons
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deep dish peat moss posted:These dark missions are pretty tough but the worst map condition is still having an Ogryn with a shield on your team. At least in the dark maps you can use your guns. I just want you to know that you are my nemesis.
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BadOptics posted:If you can tell they obv have higher level characters then I don't see a reason to just bail. Even if they're absolute tits with their main, they don't have their higher lvl skills, they don't have access to their better weapons, their gear tends to be shittier, etc. There's a huge difference between a lvl 10 and a lvl 15 character .
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Lol, the smoothest heresy missions I've done have been with 2 and 3 Ogryns, he's definitely not weak for the harder difficulties.
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deep dish peat moss posted:These dark missions are pretty tough but the worst map condition is still having an Ogryn with a shield on your team. At least in the dark maps you can use your guns. Counterpoint: the ogryn can just stand there immune to damage from a daemonhost while you hit it in the back with power weapons.
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toasterwarrior posted:New dark mission condition and Daemonhosts own and are terrifying. We really did a fuckin monkey paw when someone went "I'm sick of Endless Horde" I was ready to hate the darkness modifier, mostly because I found that Vermintide mission in the mine where you carry the torch through pitch black darkness to be just terrible. But they managed to make it pretty fun here, a noticeable change of pace without being overly irritating. At least on level 3, hopefully it does not become unmanageable on the higher difficulties. Daemonhosts rule, waking them up feels punishing at this point. Although I already had one random group that had enough damage to down it without casualties on level 3. I hope they remain strong enough that waking one up will cost you. It would suck if the dominating strategy becomes to just nuke them to oblivion instead of making an effort to avoid waking them. edit: deep dish peat moss posted:These dark missions are pretty tough but the worst map condition is still having an Ogryn with a shield on your team. At least in the dark maps you can use your guns. Puny. Sniveller.
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Just had a Daemonhost show up in a non-dark mission for the first time, that was kinda cool and being able to see the fight helped If there's a standalone geometry object anywhere in the area, you can aggro them and then literally just dodge/circlestrafe circles around it while blocking and tank it indefinitely. It doesn't have a way to attack you unless there's a clear unobscured path between it and you. It moves around the circle faster than you strafe, so it swings at you occasionally when it catches up (and sometimes it teleports) - well-timed dodges can avoid the swings and blocks can catch the ones where your timing was off. It will entirely ignore your teammates while they blast it, and I was just able to do this on Difficulty 4 without having my Block broken more than once (level 29 zealot with no stam/block gear, 1handed chainsword). It wasn't able to get its channeled ability off on me at all.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Are you sure you aren't talking about level 5 because level 3s are not *that* hard. Or do you demand a royal palisade to be placed upon so that you can be carted through the level? good burn but the word you are thinking of is palanquin
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I can understand the Ogryn hate when people play him as a tank that always has to be in front of everyone blocking doors and sight-lines. I play as more of a sheep-dog role, making sure that my special killers are clear to do their jobs, using my height to mark enemies, and using my grenade gauntlet to kill distant specials/carry Veterans who couldn't find their rear end with both hands and a map.
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Ogryn is incredibly fun to play, but yeah, every time I run into one in public matchmaking they have a shield and they want to be in front of everyone 24/7, and they do nothing except stand there blocking things with their shield (primarily our team's bullets). I do not like seeing them on my teams at all because even if they're not intentionally trying to be in front of everyone, their charges hurt the team more than help more often than not and their sheer bodymass means they somehow always take up like 1/2 my screen unless I stay out of cohesion range from them. Not to the point of leaving lobbies when I see them but more like "ugh, an Ogryn, guess I have to take a flamer". If you want to have a shield and be out in front of your team at least run WAY the gently caress out front and charge way past your team instead of blocking a doorway. Do it like the zealots do it, just get close enough to enemies that they stop shooting your teammates. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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