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https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1596528662484258816?t=DVqOh-6-znbQ4mqKnzoD3w&s=19
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Nov 27, 2022 06:39
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1596528662484258816?t=DVqOh-6-znbQ4mqKnzoD3w&s=19 audiobooks usually don't have a sassy third mic and are therefore less correct.
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Nov 27, 2022 07:27
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Gripweed posted:What if Germany had won WW1 is the far more realistic and far more interesting question. I think they may have been able to win the Eastern Front but not the Western Front, France was not going to accept political subordination to Germany, which was clear since 1870, and Germany had essentially no leverage at all over Britain and the US. If they had been able to stay in the fight for longer they may have been able to extract a maximal settlement from Russia though and been able to keep/gain control over Eastern Europe up to the modern Russian border That could have produced a Nazi or similar far right regime that would maybe have been less expansionist and more stable, tolerating a rump Russia and maintaining a cold peace with the West
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Nov 27, 2022 07:59
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what was life like for french citizens under germany authority for the couple years they controlled some of northwest france? was progress slow enough that the vast majority evacuated? were there plans for german settlement?
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Nov 27, 2022 08:04
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i say swears online posted:what was life like for french citizens under germany authority for the couple years they controlled some of northwest france? was progress slow enough that the vast majority evacuated? were there plans for german settlement? They confiscated all of the cars and most of the food and occupied the schools and hospitals. I can't imagine there were any plans to settle it, whenever there was a big push by Entente forces the Germans just withdrew to the next line of fortifications.
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Nov 27, 2022 08:44
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cross posting this from the anarchist thread in case anyone is interested crepeface posted:https://redmenace.libsyn.com/bread
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Nov 27, 2022 10:56
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lol thanks i own the breadbook and haven't even touched the first page in a decade
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Nov 27, 2022 10:57
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i say swears online posted:self-report smh My friends and I managed to sneak into the area with the beetle raid before it was released by jumping across mountains. We went inside the pyramid thing and it was all empty. Was exciting at the time because this was the earlier internet where we had no idea if anyone else had found that already (I'm sure they had, but we had no idea it'd work).
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Nov 27, 2022 11:16
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i say swears online posted:self-report smh what language is this
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Nov 27, 2022 11:27
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Ytlaya posted:My friends and I managed to sneak into the area with the beetle raid before it was released by jumping across mountains. We went inside the pyramid thing and it was all empty. Was exciting at the time because this was the earlier internet where we had no idea if anyone else had found that already (I'm sure they had, but we had no idea it'd work). that was a thing back then! i loved exploring. it took months for exploits to meld into the culture, and i felt like i was in somewhere new and unexplored every time. dying from drowning and getting to respawn in the druid-only area loving rocked for weeks, but maraudon and below was my five-man bread and butter
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Nov 27, 2022 11:29
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Jel Shaker posted:what language is this boomer
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Nov 27, 2022 11:30
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I've been relistening to the History of Rome podcast and jesus the pace is unbelievable compared to the glacial crawl of the Russian Revolution series. Vercingetorix comes and goes in 15 minutes tops!
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Nov 27, 2022 14:54
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Her Dryer posted:I've been relistening to the History of Rome podcast and jesus the pace is unbelievable compared to the glacial crawl of the Russian Revolution series. Vercingetorix comes and goes in 15 minutes tops! time moves faster back then just wait till you start getting into Sumerian history podcasts
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Nov 27, 2022 15:09
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icantfindaname posted:I think they may have been able to win the Eastern Front lol no
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Nov 27, 2022 15:13
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Latest 5-4 on state murders is some horrifying poo poo and any doctor that takes part in one should be sent to prison for life
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Nov 27, 2022 21:30
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tokin opposition posted:Latest 5-4 on state murders is some horrifying poo poo and any doctor that takes part in one should be sent to prison for life NPR had an article up a few weeks ago with people who had been involved with executions. Just a small sample and of course self-selected, but the most interesting thing was this chart of people who had been directly/indirectly involved and whether their position on cap punishment changed. Most of the people who were directly involved moved from supporting it to opposing it. Weird article, definite vibes of “soldier goes overseas to fight for empire, comes home and feels sad about having to kill people” but if you can look passed that it’s got some interesting stuff in it Also yeah that was a good 5-4
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Nov 27, 2022 21:46
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icantfindaname posted:I think they may have been able to win the Eastern Front but not the Western Front, France was not going to accept political subordination to Germany, which was clear since 1870, and Germany had essentially no leverage at all over Britain and the US. Wasn’t the German blockade of Britain pretty effective? This hypothetical requires the US not to enter the war, of course.
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Nov 27, 2022 22:16
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tokin opposition posted:Latest 5-4 on state murders is some horrifying poo poo and any doctor that takes part in one should be sent to prison for life I read a book about the history of execution methods, and it went over how once people decided that pain wasn’t supposed to be part of the punishment they quickly settled on firing squad as the most effective, least painful, and most fool-proof way to kill someone. But then America decided they wanted to figure out a more scientific method of killing and invented the electric chair, the gas chamber, and the lethal injection, all of which are way more painful, way slower, and have a significant chance of loving up.
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Nov 27, 2022 22:20
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Gripweed posted:Wasn’t the German blockade of Britain pretty effective? This hypothetical requires the US not to enter the war, of course. theres a pretty gruesome picture of a bunch of german people carving up a dead horse in the middle of the street - photo taken during active streetfighting in the spartacist uprising of 1919. in other words yes germany was starving by the end of the war.
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Nov 27, 2022 22:21
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lobster shirt posted:theres a pretty gruesome picture of a bunch of german people carving up a dead horse in the middle of the street - photo taken during active streetfighting in the spartacist uprising of 1919. in other words yes germany was starving by the end of the war. but the germans were blockading britain??
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oops misread post lol
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In the Second World War? No. German tonnage sunk never approached levels that would endanger Great Britain as they had in the First World War. In the period where the U-Boats had their greatest successes, 1939-40, U-Boat operations were still sporadic and disorganized, and there were not many U-Boats at sea. When U-Boat numbers began to climb and Wolfpacks were introduced, they were already facing an organized convoy system, more numerous escorts, new tactics and greater air coverage. This isn't to undermine the bravery of merchant and navy crews in the Battle of the Atlantic, or the hardships and losses they suffered, but compared to the American campaign in the Pacific it's night and day. The why of this misconception is interesting - like everything else, we let the German memoirs define the history: "This little story about the Type XXI “electro boat” is a perfect example of a curious naval mythology that has arisen in this century. The myth goes something like this: The Germans invented the submarine (or U-boat) and have consistently built the best submarines in the world. Endowed with a canny gift for exploiting this mar-velously complex and lethal weapon system, valorous (or, alternately, murderous) German submariners dominated the seas in both world wars and very nearly defeated the Allies in each case. In a perceptive study,* Canadian naval historian Michael L. Hadley writes: 'During both wars and during the inter-war years as well, the U-boat was mythologized more than any other weapon of war.'" "The myth assumed an especially formidable aspect in World War II and after-wards. During the war, the well-oiled propaganda machinery of the Third Reich glorified and exaggerated the “successes” of German submariners to a fare-thee-well in the various Axis media. At the same time, Allied propagandists found it advantageous to exaggerate the peril of the U-boats for various reasons. The end result was a wildly distorted picture of the so- called Battle of the Atlantic." "After the war, Washington, London, and Ottawa clamped a tight embargo on the captured German U-boat records to conceal the secrets of codebreaking, which had played an important role in the Battle of the Atlantic. As a result, the first “histories” of the U-boat war were produced by Third Reich propagandists such as Wolfgang Frank, Hans Jochem Brennecke, and Harald Busch, and by Karl Dönitz, wartime commander of the U-boat force, later commander of the Kriegsmarine, and, finally, Hitler’s successor as Führer of the Third Reich. These “histories,” of course, did nothing to diminish the mythology. Hampered by the security embargo on the U-boat and codebreaking records and by an apparent unfamiliarity with the technology and the tactical limitations of submarines, the official and semiofficial Allied naval historians, Stephen Wentworth Roskill and Samuel Eliot Morison, were unable or unwilling to write authoritatively about German U-boats in the Battle of the Atlantic. Hence for decade after decade no complete and reliable history of the Battle of the Atlantic appeared, and the German mythology prevailed." Clay Blair, the Hunters Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 22:53 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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Nov 27, 2022 22:46
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Frosted Flake posted:In the Second World War? No. German tonnage sunk never approached levels that would endanger Great Britain as they had in the First World War. We were talking about the first World War.
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Nov 27, 2022 22:54
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Gripweed posted:We were talking about the first World War. Well, same deal. The first U-Boat merchant shipping campaign was suspended before it achieved a result, and the second campaign faced convoys, even if there were not good methods of detecting or engaging submarines at the time. Surfaced U-Boats were able to pick off lone merchants and defensive measures like Q Ships achieved only mixed results, but as soon as British merchants started using the convoy system consistently there was not much the Kaiser's navy could do.
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Nov 27, 2022 22:59
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The Bruenigs talked a lot of death penalty on their podcast this week. Liz detailed it in this piece: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/11/alabama-death-penalty-kenneth-smith-execution/672220/ - Alabama has an execution she attended where the prisoner is unconscious when the public is allowed in. This is highly unusual as the prisoner has civil rights procedures that need to be implemented to them consciously right before the end. - Liz attends the autopsy that uncovers that the state's "medical" team (no idea who these people are or if they're even qualified) couldn't put in a line and wound up cutting the guy's flesh open to expose the vein they used. - The next prisoner up moves his brother off his observer list so Liz can attend on his personal list (the state ignores her media requests now). - This execution is also botched. Executioners jabbed the guy for an hour and failed to place a line before it was called off. Dude survives. - She's an observer on the next guy up too. This execution is also botched, state officials blame the clock running out because of defense team legal maneuvering, but that happens in every case, so it's no excuse. - Alabama governor puts a moratorium on executions. - Both the survivors are suing the state, which could result in the anonymity of the executioners being broken because they would have to be deposed for the trials. If they are indeed licensed medical professionals, they could lose their licenses because participating in executions is a pretty big violation of the "first, do no harm" part of the professional codes. This would hopefully have a very chilling effect on people helping executions across the country. PostNouveau has issued a correction as of 23:34 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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Gripweed posted:I read a book about the history of execution methods, and it went over how once people decided that pain wasn’t supposed to be part of the punishment they quickly settled on firing squad as the most effective, least painful, and most fool-proof way to kill someone. But then America decided they wanted to figure out a more scientific method of killing and invented the electric chair, the gas chamber, and the lethal injection, all of which are way more painful, way slower, and have a significant chance of loving up. I thought the gas chamber was a painless way to go, it's just real bad optics because Nazis?
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Nov 27, 2022 23:31
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Frosted Flake posted:In the Second World War? No. German tonnage sunk never approached levels that would endanger Great Britain as they had in the First World War. I'm reminded of when I was in middle school I took out some book of short stories and I dont remember who the author was but I remember one of the stories was about a Merchant Marine doing the artic convoy to the Soviet Union and I remember theres one part where hes on Shore leave in Canada and all the people in the bar want him to talk about how terrible the submarines are and they get angry with him as he insists the submarines are no where near as bad as being attacked by the aircraft
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Nov 27, 2022 23:38
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HashtagGirlboss posted:WoW guild drama was the most pathetic poo poo lmao one of these days I’ll share the story of how I quit WoW because it directly caused the end of a romantic relationship, but not because I was playing too much or anything like that, no no it was far far stupider wow guild drama kicks rear end because it's so pathetic what are you talking about!
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Nov 27, 2022 23:40
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PostNouveau posted:The Bruenigs talked a lot of death penalty on their podcast this week. Liz detailed it in this piece: I read a few of her earlier articles that had parts of this story but they hadn't issued the moratorium yet and jesus christ america
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Nov 27, 2022 23:44
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COPE 27 posted:lol no I would say there's a strong case to say that Germany could have won in the Eastern Front, considering that they historically did manage to do it.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:29
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PostNouveau posted:The Bruenigs talked a lot of death penalty on their podcast this week. Liz detailed it in this piece: No state in the union requires an oath to do no harm for medical professionals to be licensed to practice in that state. Professional organizations sometimes do as part of their medical ethics statements, but chances are you have at one point or another received care from a doctor with no binding statement swearing them to do no harm. Try not to worry about it too much. In any case, there are laws all over the country preventing the disclosure of execution staff's identities while they are still performing their duties, so don't expect them to end up doing much more than giving an anonymous deposition to the court.
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There's a very good book about an executioner struggling with ethics and duty, The Faithful Executioner: Life and Death, Honor and Shame in the Turbulent Sixteenth Century In a dusty German bookshop, the noted historian Joel F. Harrington stumbled upon a remarkable document: the journal of a sixteenth-century executioner. The journal gave an account of the 394 people Meister Frantz Schmidt executed, and the hundreds more he tortured, flogged, or disfigured for more than forty-five years in the city of Nuremberg. But the portrait of Schmidt that gradually emerged was not that of a monster. Could a man who practiced such cruelty also be insightful, compassionate―even progressive? In The Faithful Executioner, Harrington teases out the hidden meanings and drama of Schmidt's journal. Deemed an official outcast, Meister Frantz sought to prove himself worthy of honor and free his children from the stigma of his profession. Harrington uncovers details of Schmidt's life and work: the shocking, but often familiar, crimes of the day; the medical practice that he felt was his true calling; and his lifelong struggle to reconcile his craft with his religious faith. In this groundbreaking and intimate portrait, Harrington shows us that our thinking about justice and punishment, and our sense of our own humanity, are not so remote from the world of The Faithful Executioner.
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PostNouveau posted:I thought the gas chamber was a painless way to go, it's just real bad optics because Nazis? only if they use the gas that kills painlessly
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just loving do the firing squad it sounds way more humane than this poo poo and if you've already decided to end a human life you might as well do the job in a cheap and foolproof way I am no longer anti-death penalty but it should only be used for white collar financial crimes and labor and product safety violations, like China executing the dudes who sold poisoned baby formula
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Omnicarus posted:Runescape introduced me to what eventually became my RL career (bronze smithing) To bring this back to podcasts bronze smithing is what killed the guy in S-Town
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Shipon posted:I am no longer anti-death penalty but it should only be used for white collar financial crimes and labor and product safety violations, like China executing the dudes who sold poisoned baby formula 
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one of the fundamental problems with the death penalty is that we skip straight to the part where we assume that the criminal gets found-out, arrested, and convicted even if there was some policy that was like "firing squad for political corruption", when you consider how few people ever get charged with corruption, much less convicted for it, the whole exercise becomes pointless it's the other side of the coin from innocent people getting executed: the guilty people aren't, and that undermines any kind of argument when it comes to deterrence or even the mere sating of societal bloodlust
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gradenko_2000 posted:even if there was some policy that was like "firing squad for political corruption", when you consider how few people ever get charged with corruption, much less convicted for it, the whole exercise becomes pointless For the billionaires I'm willing to skip the charging, trial, and conviction and go straight to the execution tbqh
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The role of capital punishment is societal. Crime creates a rift in society and, by publicly punishing wrongdoers, the state reinforces their role of protecting the people and distributing justice. This is why executions were traditionally both public and gruesome. Painlessly executing criminals behind closed doors serves neither of these purposes, so it's sort of strange why it's been retained. It's cliche for leftists to say "the cruelty is the point", but this is essentially true for capital punishment. The issue is that nobody believes justice is being done and feels closer to the state through executions these days, so it's just vestigial cruelty imo.
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