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indigi posted:I’m sorry for challenging the honor of the thread where people sincerely discuss how getting covid is worse than getting hiv No one is claiming getting covid is worse than getting hiv as far as I can tell. Well, I guess there's at least one shovelbums rereg. indigi posted:I hope China doesn't abandon covid zero. I remember some people speculating that they would drop it immediately after the party congress and that didn’t happen so maybe they'll stay the course, though the tragic fire may give openers enough fuel within the party to start loosening restrictions They did shorten the entry quarantine which I'd read as giving in to pressure from, in no particular order, middle class tourists, people with business travel expense accounts and academics that miss conferences. But overall it's the cheapest and most effective measure so that's not indicative of them having a good plan for continuing their zero covid policy. Or they'll do a sharp turnaround once they see it doesn't work out.
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Nov 27, 2022 22:59
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Mantis42 posted:just don't get covid it's that simple
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Nov 27, 2022 23:03
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genericnick posted:No one is claiming getting covid is worse than getting hiv as far as I can tell. Well, I guess there's at least one shovelbums rereg. actually the discussion originated from epidemiologists who study HIV, HIV positive people, science editor of HIV magazine POZmagazine, and doctors who were discussing how it’s both a reasonable comparison and worse in some ways. it wasn’t just some random poster. y’all are showing your whole asses right now
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Nov 27, 2022 23:08
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There are always a few posters in every big thread that take poo poo way too far, like that due in the coolzone who kept predicting the downfall of western civilization within six months, and people from outside the thread latch on to those takes and then decide everyone who read and posts in that thread believes that exact thing. It's really tedious. The covid thread has helped me, and I've helped my elderly grandparents and my aunt who takes the same DMARDS as I do get good masks.
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Nov 27, 2022 23:09
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Mantis42 posted:just don't get covid done. ticket closed.
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Nov 27, 2022 23:10
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Ardennes posted:Maybe COVID was a no win scenario in the first place. Loser mentality, no wonder the west is a failing civilization
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Nov 27, 2022 23:12
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every thread has its own culture. Glenn greenwald is not r word alone. the only thread that startles me is the trump one.
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Nov 27, 2022 23:12
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Mirello posted:As someone who lives in china until very recently, and very pro lockdown (and locked down myself for a combined 21 days + a month of nothing being open in my city), I think covid 0 is over. People are pissed. It's the worst of both worlds, constant lockdowns and it's still ravaging the population. Destroying the economy. Thousands of people will die unnecessarily (way more than that fire) but china will follow the rest of the world. Omicron makes covid 0 impossible. It worked with alpha and delta, but omicron is just too much. You are probably right, but on the other hand every western pundit screaming for China to abandon covid zero is probably good evidence it is the right policy I like how occasionally a western article about how the ccp is terrorising the people with zero covid drops something like this in and then moves on without further reflection quote:Like in Australia during the zero COVID period earlier in the pandemic, people in China have largely supported the policies to live without having to worry about the virus. 'probably most people are still fine with the policy, who knows, doesn't matter, Xi is finished'
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Nov 27, 2022 23:27
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also framing the current situation in china as the 'worst of both worlds' because there are harsh restrictions and ~30000 infections still happening a day is dumb. The worst of the covid open world isn't tens of thousands of cases, it's hundreds of thousands of cases and tens of thousands of deaths, which current Chinese policy is still continuing to avoid
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Nov 27, 2022 23:34
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alright, china...xi for biden - we trade straight up
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Nov 27, 2022 23:43
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:also framing the current situation in china as the 'worst of both worlds' because there are harsh restrictions and ~30000 infections still happening a day is dumb. The worst of the covid open world isn't tens of thousands of cases, it's hundreds of thousands of cases and tens of thousands of deaths, which current Chinese policy is still continuing to avoid Millions of lives were saved the question what to do next if a total lockdown policy isn’t possible.
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Nov 27, 2022 23:57
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mawarannahr posted:actually the discussion originated from epidemiologists who study HIV, HIV positive people, science editor of HIV magazine POZmagazine, and doctors who were discussing how it’s both a reasonable comparison and worse in some ways. it wasn’t just some random poster. The mortality rate of acute HIV is practically zero. With current antiviral meds we've reduced the impact of chronic HIV in rich countries to a level almost negligible, certainly less than say diabetes. COVID also wipes out naive T-cells and causes immune dis regulation, just like HIV. The long term effect is obviously unknown but the parallels are there, unless you think the current wave of respiratory illness among children in developed countries is causes by masks or "lockdowns" or something else that definitely happened in west. This is on top of all the organ damage, measurable and observable brain and cognitive damage, blood clotting and massive increases in stroke and cardiovascular disease that we are now already observing. There's some indication that long courses of paxlovid might be beneficial for chronic covid but who knows. It's not at all an unreasonable comparison for anyone who knows anything about either COVID or HIV.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:06
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indigi posted:I’m sorry for challenging the honor of the thread where people sincerely discuss how getting covid is worse than getting hiv I know you don't like to read too much so I'll keep it simple: didnt happen Zodium posted:it's that simple respirator crew 
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Nov 28, 2022 00:11
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Westerners equate all Chinese protests to imminent regime change. It happens every single time. We have protests all the time in the US and sometimes people get killed at them! Imagine if every time some Qanon chuds displayed a MAGA banner on a highway overpass the foreign press was like "Wow, the brave Americans are finally rising up to overthrow their evil government!" The other thing is, foreign support directly undermines the protests. NGO activists always want to get involved and "help". Americans were freaking out when Russia bought lovely facebook ads to influence us. Imagine if an American protest movement was found to receive funding and strategic advice from China, Iran, or Russia. The protest would be declared a subversion op and the protestors would be declared dupes or traitors.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:12
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Throatwarbler posted:The mortality rate of acute HIV is practically zero. With current antiviral meds we've reduced the impact of chronic HIV in rich countries to a level almost negligible, certainly less than say diabetes. But if that was true; that would mean things are really bad. But they don't seem bad. I can still get my treats, so obviously you're just hysterical.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:28
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mawarannahr posted:actually the discussion originated from epidemiologists who study HIV, HIV positive people, science editor of HIV magazine POZmagazine, and doctors who were discussing how it’s both a reasonable comparison and worse in some ways. it wasn’t just some random poster. If I'm not totally off the claim was that T-cell depletion in acute covid cases looks in some ways worse than aids. Of course we don't know longterm outcomes, but at this point It'd be a stretch to expect the outcome of a single infection to be as severe as an HIV infection. Not impossible, but still a stretch. Of course, it makes very little sense to talk about a single infection for a single person. And in terms of social impact it's vastly worse. Ardennes posted:Millions of lives were saved the question what to do next if a total lockdown policy isn’t possible. Well, is it though?
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Nov 28, 2022 00:28
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covid might not be worse than aids but these posts definitely are
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Nov 28, 2022 00:33
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Time to lock down this thread until the outbreak is contained.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:35
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lobster shirt posted:covid might not be worse than aids but these posts definitely are
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Nov 28, 2022 00:35
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quote:Recently, news of sporadic protests across China are gaining attention both in Reddit and elsewhere. There are massive protests in both Shanghai and Tsinghua University over the CCP's handling of the COVID situation.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:37
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Not gonna post in the china thread about covid if they get it back under control. These are my demands.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:38
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I had COVID once and I'd give it a 7/10. Haven't been able to get my hands on AIDS yet but make sure to check out my YouTube channel for my full review after I do.
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Nov 28, 2022 00:39
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President Xi, my people yearn to see Avatar 2 in 3D at the theater
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Nov 28, 2022 00:42
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if China goes COVID positive I’m going to stop reading theory
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Nov 28, 2022 00:46
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https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1596913624601473024
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Nov 28, 2022 00:53
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F*CK COVID  
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Nov 28, 2022 00:53
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mawarannahr posted:if China goes COVID positive I’m going to stop reading theory Look, if you can think of a better way to heighten the contradiction, BY ALL MEANS...
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Nov 28, 2022 00:54
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kazakhstan hosed my rear end
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Nov 28, 2022 00:54
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Qazaqstan
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Nov 28, 2022 00:55
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https://china.usc.edu/looking-protesting-chinaquote:The Chinese government reported the number of "mass incidents" grew from 8,700 in 1993 to over 87,000 in 2005, the last year it released an official count. Sun Liping 孙立平, a sociology professor at Tsinghua University, estimated that there were up to 180,000 in 2010—or 490 protests every day. Ah yeah I'm sure these protests are completely unprecedented and herald the coming fall of the CCP
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Nov 28, 2022 00:55
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"A rare example of dissent in Communist China" I write in each of my roughly monthly articles about some sort of protest in China
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Nov 28, 2022 01:01
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to be fair this one seems bigger (or at least my middle class friends are actually talking about it like it matters somehow) and the CIA or whoever has already had people leading chants and throwing in slogans like 'we want elections' 'we want freedom' 'xi jinping step down' that banner that was held before the people's congress is getting quoted a lot I'm sure it's nothing tho
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Nov 28, 2022 01:08
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https://twitter.com/quanyi_li2/status/1596785284221267968?t=d6L_SV-8TtS1FBB4Rpo8Eg&s=19
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Nov 28, 2022 01:49
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gradenko_2000 posted:Really quite incredible how quickly the media can forge a narrative that people will uncritically swallow im sure theres people but like how many.
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Nov 28, 2022 01:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://china.usc.edu/looking-protesting-china I wonder how the NED types who track and publicize every protest in China for their day job feel when one gets boasted by the media throughout the West. Probably a little bitter but happy to get some time to shine and act like an expert.
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Nov 28, 2022 01:54
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Throatwarbler posted:
bad shoot majorian
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Nov 28, 2022 01:59
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If only someone would invent a vaccine against modbrain.
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Nov 28, 2022 02:00
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lobster shirt posted:covid might not be worse than aids but these posts definitely are
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Nov 28, 2022 02:40
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China will grow larger https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1596922071786741760
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DiscountDildos posted:"A rare example of dissent in Communist China" I write in each of my roughly monthly articles about some sort of protest in China
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