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cagliostr0 posted:Arsene Wenger is possibly the only person with worse ideas about how to fix football than Americans I love that Stoke City trolled him into detesting 0-0s and throw ins lol 
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Have we seen the artificial clouds yet? I'm beginning to think that they might not be coming...
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We had one a few days ago:
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:I love that Stoke City trolled him into detesting 0-0s and throw ins lol infantino hire tony pulis to fix football you coward
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FullLeatherJacket posted:infantino hire tony pulis to fix football you coward Naked shower boxing to replace penalty shootouts
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whypick1 posted:We had one a few days ago: i was going to be mad if it wasn't the cumrag ghost mascot but okay, that's an acceptable take too
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Grimson posted:ive always enjoyed these paragraph from juan villoro PHWOOAAARR or what have you.
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vyelkin posted:lol FIFA just really dedicated to making sure that every new World Cup is the worst World Cup ever The tried and proven WWE method.
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cagliostr0 posted:Arsene Wenger is possibly the only person with worse ideas about how to fix football than Americans he's so loving stupid lol
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Masonity posted:That's part of what makes it such a sick burn. vyelkin posted:I love penalty shootouts but I hate the Americanization of the sport which demands that we somehow do away with draws. Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Dec 1, 2022 |
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I think the romanticization of draws here doesn’t reflect how most people enjoy the game. Most draws aren’t some plucky minor team grinding it out against a big team. And even when that happens it’s not always entertaining. The game has changed over the years to favor attackers more, to create a stronger incentive to win rather than draw. People agree with those things. That said I agree they’re using penalty shootouts the wrong way. PKs are an inelegant feature of the game. They’re hugely dependent on luck and are a good alternative to flipping a coin. They make sense for assigning a winner in knockout stages where there has to be a winner. Applying them to draws is nonsensical and would hugely distort how the game is played. My guess is they would make the game more defensive and encourage smaller teams to grind out draws when they would otherwise chase a goal. Certainly it would induce teams to spend a lot more time training for pens as opposed to, you know, the game.
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Vegetable posted:Applying them to draws is nonsensical and would hugely distort how the game is played. My guess is they would make the game more defensive and encourage smaller teams to grind out draws when they would otherwise chase a goal. Certainly it would induce teams to spend a lot more time training for pens as opposed to, you know, the game. It’s a way to have your 16 groups of 3 teams each cake and be able to eat it as well. Which is why it’s so incredibly dumb.
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harperdc posted:It’s a way to have your 16 groups of 3 teams each cake and be able to eat it as well. Which is why it’s so incredibly dumb.
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Crazy Ted posted:And it's funny you say that because there haven't been shootouts to decide winners and losers in the top two tiers of leagues in the US at any point in the 21st Century. I realize that MLS may not have them (though they still have playoffs), but other US sports really go out of their way to avoid draws and I feel like whenever I see a proposal to do away with them in football, very often there's somebody arguing that there should always be a winner using American sports as their model.
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/TheAthleticFC/status/1597940005464408065 And only 6 years behind the EFL Trophy and Scottish League Cup. FIFA's really scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas here.
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There’s always golden goal.
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vyelkin posted:I realize that MLS may not have them (though they still have playoffs), but other US sports really go out of their way to avoid draws and I feel like whenever I see a proposal to do away with them in football, very often there's somebody arguing that there should always be a winner using American sports as their model. just americanize it completey. no group stages. All knockouts with a wild card round for the lowest performers in the qualifiers since they're expanding from elite to any nation with a pulse (also super american trend)
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:just americanize it completey. no group stages. All knockouts with a wild card round for the lowest performers in the qualifiers since they're expanding from elite to any nation with a pulse (also super american trend) The Final match should be a weeks-long best out of 19 series
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Only teams from the host nation's conference are invited
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Vegetable posted:Applying them to draws is nonsensical and would hugely distort how the game is played. My guess is they would make the game more defensive and encourage smaller teams to grind out draws when they would otherwise chase a goal. Certainly it would induce teams to spend a lot more time training for pens as opposed to, you know, the game. 100% this, but not just smaller teams. Big teams would do it too. Remember when they had the "golden goal" rule (ie next goal wins) for extra time, thinking that it would encourage more attacking play. Instead it did the exact opposite, as teams dug in and preferred to take their chance with penalties, rather than the risk of committing players forward and getting caught short on the counter.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:just americanize it completey. no group stages. All knockouts with a wild card round for the lowest performers in the qualifiers since they're expanding from elite to any nation with a pulse (also super american trend) So, the FA Cup 
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How about we start each match with 11 rounds of penalties, that way each keeper is forced to take one. Result becomes the starting score.
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There's only one good way to do penalty shootouts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWKO3fhLPc
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I've always liked how rugby gives a bonus point for scoring tries. Basically scoring 3 goals gives you a bonus point. Win or lose, you get a point for attacking and scoring 3 goals. Then again, I like how only the captain can approach a referee and it's book able offense to swear at said person rather than having five people screaming abuse at the ref. Same goes for just stopping the clock when play stops instead of ''guessing'' how much extra time there is.
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“only the captain can talk to the ref” is a great idea in theory but players are way more spread out in football. what if a striker accidentally elbows someone during a corner and his captain is the keeper, the keeper has to trudge all the way up the pitch to talk about it?
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Never really understood why a keeper is a captain when they can be 50 metres away from play.
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Because a captain's armband is ceremonial and teams usually have several leader-types on the pitch.
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Tai posted:I've always liked how rugby gives a bonus point for scoring tries. Basically scoring 3 goals gives you a bonus point. Win or lose, you get a point for attacking and scoring 3 goals. Counterpoint: rugby union is for cunts.
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Mickolution posted:Counterpoint: rugby union is for cunts. True but it’s also extremely good and England are also bad and fail at it
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Shrapnig posted:Arbitrary points are incredibly stupid. It actually made Rugby a lot more of an attacking game instead of the constant fullback kicking game it got stuck in. Would it work for Football? No idea
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Tortilla Maker posted:How about we start each match with 11 rounds of penalties, that way each keeper is forced to take one. Result becomes the starting score. Start each knockout with a penalty shootout, so the knowledge of who will win if the game is tied after 120 minutes is there before they kick off. Top Bants tbh.
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Football is already a perfectly adequate attacking game.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:just americanize it completey. no group stages. All knockouts with a wild card round for the lowest performers in the qualifiers since they're expanding from elite to any nation with a pulse (also super american trend) Also double elimination so the big name teams can’t be knocked out in a shock upset.
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Repêchage. Everyone loves a repêchage.
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goatface posted:Repêchage. Everyone loves a repêchage. Ronaldo paid a lot of money to make those repe chages disappear
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Failed Imagineer posted:Ronaldo paid a lot of money to make those repe chages disappear Up pops a frowning Kathryn Mayorga
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Failed Imagineer posted:Ronaldo paid a lot of money to make those repe chages disappear 
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webmeister posted:100% this, but not just smaller teams. Big teams would do it too. Bring back overtime, but make extra time unlimited so they have to keep playing until someone scores
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