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So I started watching Wednesday last night, and got about 3 episodes in before realizing that I was not enjoying myself at all, and that it's a pretty terrible show. It borrows pretty heavily from Mean Girls, Harry Potter, and the recent Sabrina the Teenage Witch, just without any of the charm or humor of any of them. Wednesday suddenly having magic powers and incredible fighting skills isn't really in the spirit of the Addams Family at all. You'd think at least if she was going to a school for people like her, we'd see something like we saw in any of the party scenes in the Addams Family films where everybody else was some kind of weirdo or freak, but instead everybody here are just generic teenagers who the only thing weird about them is that they are a vampire, werewolf, or a siren. And Jenna Ortega has zero charisma as Wednesday. And as bad as Tim Burton has gotten over the last 20 years, I at least expected some of his unique style that he at least still brings to everything, but its filmed and staged like a CW show.
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Nov 30, 2022 15:29
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I think some of the school weirdos are lifted from other Addams properties, like her friend the bee kid. My wife recognized him at least. Wednesday being an unfeeling Mary sue in the first few episodes is kind of the point. She doesn’t know how to be flawed and it’s a major part of her growth as a character
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Nov 30, 2022 15:51
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At this point I'm just over Tim Burton. He's been doing the same poo poo for 20 years now, step out of your comfort zone dude.
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Nov 30, 2022 15:55
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A MIRACLE posted:I think some of the school weirdos are lifted from other Addams properties, like her friend the bee kid. My wife recognized him at least. They could have leaned into how different she is like they did with Addams Family Values at the summer camp, or they could have leaned into everybody being weird, but they just kind of did neither. Everybody at her school are just normal teenagers who are also part time models who just happen to have magical blood. It felt like they couldn't figure out the tone of the show.
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Nov 30, 2022 15:59
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i do agree that having her be a kung fu expert on top of everything else is a bit much
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Nov 30, 2022 18:33
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precision posted:i do agree that having her be a kung fu expert on top of everything else is a bit much that made me lol. my immersion!!
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Nov 30, 2022 18:57
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I could see Wednesday being better if it wasn't for the "outcast school" setting there are just too many shows about magic schools and it all felt very forced and pointless here. Pretty much all non Wednesday characters were wasted. Except Thing though, he needs to get a spin off show.
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Nov 30, 2022 19:14
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Is Wendy Wuxia or is the kungfu just a quirky character trait that isn't anything more than a joke?
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Nov 30, 2022 19:20
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forest spirit posted:Is Wendy Wuxia or is the kungfu just a quirky character trait that isn't anything more than a joke? its used as a girlboss moment where she beats up some normie jocks. if this doesn't sound fun for you then you might want to skip
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Nov 30, 2022 19:23
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I'm not sure why Wednesday being good at fighting is out of character. She spent a chunk of the first movie recreating the duel from Hamlet with Pugsly.
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Nov 30, 2022 19:23
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Field Mousepad posted:At this point I'm just over Tim Burton. He's been doing the same poo poo for 20 years now, step out of your comfort zone dude. He stepped out to do something different for Big Eyes and it wasn't good or interesting so he slouched back into comfortable paycheck territory.
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Nov 30, 2022 19:26
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The first two episodes of the new willow series are up on D+. It is very good and definitely has the same feel of the movie. They got a lot of the original cast back too.
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Nov 30, 2022 19:28
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Yeah if anything other than generally creepiness, kookiness, mysteriousness, spookiness, and altogether ookiness defines the Addamses, it's their martial prowess. I'd probably go more with swordsmanship or maybe like old-timey boxing, personally. also my phone wanted that to be "marital prowess" and honestly that's not wrong either
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Nov 30, 2022 19:32
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badjohny posted:The first two episodes of the new willow series are up on D+. It is very good and definitely has the same feel of the movie. They got a lot of the original cast back too. Is Madmartigan dead, or simply hand-waved away? (also not to be a dick but OG Willow is one of the movies that defines "80s PG" where guys get boiling oil poured on them or run through on camera. there just isn't any blood. I doubt the new show will go that hard...but I hope I'm wrong)
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Nov 30, 2022 19:35
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Finished The Patient with Steve Carrell the other night. Honestly, it just felt like an hour and a half movie stretched into a five hour TV show. Currently watching The Midnight Club which is a mixed bag. Everything at the mansion with the kids is pretty good, but absolutely way too much time is devoted to their "spooky story" vignettes. If you're looking for a light 30-minute show, my wife and I have been watching Making Fun on Netflix. Basically kids pitch invention ideas to a team of craftsmen who choose one to build each episode. Usually it ends up being some sort of dangerous monstrosity like a fire-breathing nutcracker with a hydraulic press for a jaw, or a pirate boat that shoots pizzas.
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Nov 30, 2022 19:37
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I'm not sure why Wednesday being good at fighting is out of character. She spent a chunk of the first movie recreating the duel from Hamlet with Pugsly. They were doing stage fighting since it was for a play. Here, she has like masterful kung fu skills, easily fighting off 6 men without any effort.
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Nov 30, 2022 20:24
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Cinema Discusso › "What's Streaming?" 90 minute movie stretched into 8 episode hours
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Nov 30, 2022 20:38
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Is Madmartigan dead, or simply hand-waved away? Possibly huge spoiler I heard that Val Kilmer does appear but at the very end of the show. I'm so loving stoked for new Willow, when D+ came out Willow was like the only thing I watched then was like welp I watched everything I wanted, unsubscribe.
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Nov 30, 2022 20:40
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The review I read for the Willow show also called it a 90 minute movie stretched out to a series. It also said that it was made with the same sequel instincts as The Force Awakens and that it can never figure out if it wants to be a genuine sequel to Willow or an ironic embarrassed pastiche. It also compared the dialogue to Joss Whedon shows. I was already one foot out the door because it was made by the Kasdan kid who made Solo so terrible, but now I'm staying far away until I hear something very different from that review.
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Nov 30, 2022 20:46
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TheMopeSquad posted:Possibly huge spoiler I heard that Val Kilmer does appear but at the very end of the show. To expand on the spoiler with BTS stuff the showrunner has said that they absolutely did not want to make the series in a world where Madmartigan was dead so Kilmer was involved from the very start. But Covid ended up preventing Kilmer from flying to Wales so when it was safe they filmed some footage with him so he would be in the series and moved some of his story to season 2. He can't talk but an AI company built him a text to speech program trained with his audio samples that does a good replica.
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Nov 30, 2022 20:48
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Speaking of "stretched" I'm on the third episode of 1899 and I'm enjoying the production design and the vibe but godDAMN is this poo poo slower than molasses in January. Also the new Willow doesn't have the guts to have Willow cast a spell that rips a Troll's skin off and turns it into a gooey brain, then turns that brain into a weird two-headed dragon-thing. Does it?!?!?
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Nov 30, 2022 21:09
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Speaking of "stretched" I'm on the third episode of 1899 and I'm enjoying the production design and the vibe but godDAMN is this poo poo slower than molasses in January. Gonna tell you right now, mine and multiple other people's recommendation is to bail. The bottom half of the show seems like it's going to be something interesting and then becomes the most boiler plate trope, and the final scene literally made me laugh at how dumb it was.
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Nov 30, 2022 21:11
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Medullah posted:Gonna tell you right now, mine and multiple other people's recommendation is to bail. The bottom half of the show seems like it's going to be something interesting and then becomes the most boiler plate trope, and the final scene literally made me laugh at how dumb it was. I think I've already figured this out. This is a computer simulation, right?
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Nov 30, 2022 21:13
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I'm not sure why Wednesday being good at fighting is out of character. She spent a chunk of the first movie recreating the duel from Hamlet with Pugsly. She just always seemed like the type to not get her hands dirty, it's a fairly minor point yeah. I mean it is cool. It's just not, you know, ice cold
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Nov 30, 2022 21:16
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badjohny posted:The first two episodes of the new willow series are up on D+. It is very good and definitely has the same feel of the movie. They got a lot of the original cast back too. Hard to imagine a faithful sequel to Willow without Phil Tippett.
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Nov 30, 2022 21:16
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I think I've already figured this out. This is a computer simulation, right? If you want spoilers yep. Credit to them, it's not something they saved for a late reveal, it's made fairly obvious around episode 4 or 5. But it just makes the rest of the story less interesting. Bigger spoilers, for the end It turns out that it's not only a simulation, she's the programmer and it's the year like 2199 and they're on a space ship, with everyone in cryo sleep
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Nov 30, 2022 21:22
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I think I've already figured this out. This is a computer simulation, right? I don't think this is even figuring it out, they telegraph this very very very hard from early in the show. It's a fun watch, I enjoyed it. But the very premise of the show makes the whole thing (sorta overall spoilers, not specific to any one thing that happens) feel very pointless. There's no weight to a big twist or story reveal when they outright say that nothing you see can be trusted as reality. It's also a lazy out for the writers, who could at any moment just decide that nothing we've seen so far was real.
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Nov 30, 2022 21:23
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I'm really digging the show Killing It on Peacock, with Craig Robinson and Claudia O'Doherty. Wasn't expecting it to be so explicitly about how the working poor are exploited here. It's kind of like a mix of Eastbound & Down with Nomadland. I guess it came out earlier this year, but I never heard much chatter about it.
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Nov 30, 2022 23:06
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Killing It is great. It was renewed back in June, so we'll get more!
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Nov 30, 2022 23:09
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isaboo posted:Killing It is great. It was renewed back in June, so we'll get more! Outstanding! I'm only 3 eps in but it's definitely hitting me in the right spots.
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Nov 30, 2022 23:13
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Finally getting around to watching Andor. Show is good as hell.
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veni veni veni posted:Finally getting around to watching Andor. Show is good as hell. Same and same
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Dec 1, 2022 07:27
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Decided to finally watch the Willow movie in prep for the show That was a dire mistake God I hate Ron Howard
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Dec 1, 2022 07:33
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Also the new Willow doesn't have the guts to have Willow cast a spell that rips a Troll's skin off and turns it into a gooey brain, then turns that brain into a weird two-headed dragon-thing. Does it?!?!? Man that scene has been burned into my brain for decades
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Dec 1, 2022 11:22
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Upsidads posted:Decided to finally watch the Willow movie in prep for the show Watched the first two episodes last night. It's really just the most generic fantasy show I've seen in a while, even more than the awful Wheel of Time by Amazon. Ron Howard is such milquetoast
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Dec 1, 2022 15:34
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Upsidads posted:Decided to finally watch the Willow movie in prep for the show It's pretty great if you're like 8 years old though.
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Dec 1, 2022 16:15
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I still enjoy Willow for what it is, but a lot of it is nostalgia. Sorsha was one of young Medullah's big crushes.
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Dec 1, 2022 16:18
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Yea I probably should've said it's pretty great if you were 8(probably more like 5) years old when you saw it, because still love the movie too. But it's impossible to judge it objectively, it was such a big movie for me when I was a kid.
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Dec 1, 2022 16:22
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Labyrinth, on Netflix, is just as good as it was when you were 5 or 8, and maybe better now since you'll actually understand what it's about. I had to buy a Blu ray of Legend, and it is maybe not as good as you remember. So much dubbing, those sets must have been deafeningly loud. Maybe the actors all had terrible lisps. The Meg swamp monster part was still good. Meg is played by *** Robert Picardo *** what on Earth Inspector Hound fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Dec 1, 2022 |
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Basebf555 posted:It's pretty great if you're like 8 years old though. yeah i am absolutely not gonna revisit it and ruin my childhood lmao
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