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I asked someone on the planning commission if the city was considering doing away with single-family zoning, and I'm pretty sure they tried to tell me that multifamily zoning was the actual problem. I, uh..
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It's an extreme example, but one of the inner ring suburbs has required a minimum lot size of an acre since 1989 with mandatory 50' setback. Really keeps the riffraff out, I guess.
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Nov 29, 2022 21:19
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I asked someone on the planning commission if the city was considering doing away with single-family zoning, and I'm pretty sure they tried to tell me that multifamily zoning was the actual problem. I, uh.. it is to what they hate (poor people and minorities)
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I asked someone on the planning commission if the city was considering doing away with single-family zoning, and I'm pretty sure they tried to tell me that multifamily zoning was the actual problem. I, uh.. Oregon got rid of single family zoning statewide but my understanding is a lot of cities are using the permitting process and development fees to continue enforcing it on a de facto basis
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Nov 29, 2022 21:24
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lol I just checked and my own neighborhood has a minimum lot size of 8000 square feet for new construction with almost all the properties on 3,000 square foot lots as built. sounds like a great fuckin' recipe for urban blight.
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Nov 29, 2022 21:24
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anime was right posted:it is to what they hate (poor people and minorities) The interesting twist is that they seemed to be blaming multi-family zoning for the destruction of minority communities. Which, yeah, historically black neighborhoods have largely been zoned multi-family here, but the conclusion isn't that we need to expand single-family zoning to protect minorities.
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Nov 29, 2022 21:29
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:lol I just checked and my own neighborhood has a minimum lot size of 8000 square feet for new construction with almost all the properties on 3,000 square foot lots as built. sounds like a great fuckin' recipe for urban blight. My house is on a lot that is exactly 1/2 the minimum lot size of the zone it's sitting in right now. Same with basically every other house on this block and adjacent blocks. It's loving asinine.
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Nov 29, 2022 21:31
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Fitzy Fitz posted:The interesting twist is that they seemed to be blaming multi-family zoning for the destruction of minority communities. Which, yeah, historically black neighborhoods have largely been zoned multi-family here, but the conclusion isn't that we need to expand single-family zoning to protect minorities. people will just say poo poo as long as they can do a racism
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Nov 29, 2022 21:33
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Minimum lot sizes + habitable square footages + mandatory setbacks are a huge part of why anyone under 40 can't afford a place of their own anymore. also why the 1/3 of americans over 50 living alone, as cited in the story, can't afford to buy a place of their own.
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Nov 29, 2022 21:38
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relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdQ381K5xg
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1597640970698465280?s=20&t=KLkul8hHpTWHKWOcre8aOw one easy trick to reduce the homeless rate
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Nov 30, 2022 02:38
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it's beautiful
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Nov 30, 2022 22:29
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Offer $196,800.
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Nov 30, 2022 22:40
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grey laminate flooring and 2nd hand Ikea cabinents?
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Nov 30, 2022 23:23
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It's either a basement condo or an especially depressing loft conversion.
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Nov 30, 2022 23:30
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update: another 10 G down the drain in my $4,000 house
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Nov 30, 2022 23:37
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War and Pieces posted:update: another 10 G down the drain in my $4,000 house not to worry, you'll profit 10x when you sell
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Nov 30, 2022 23:45
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love the "home renos" where they install a single high-end fixture/bath/shower or something and do nothing else. Fancy clawfoot tub next to a contractor-grade sink from the 90's, brand-new kitchen with composite flooring with a hard transition to beige carpet and grandma couches
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Justin Tyme posted:love the "home renos" where they install a single high-end fixture/bath/shower or something and do nothing else. Fancy clawfoot tub next to a contractor-grade sink from the 90's, brand-new kitchen with composite flooring with a hard transition to beige carpet and grandma couches Honestly, it's usually much worse than something like this. A lot of these quick and dirty renovations involve tearing out relatively good (but old) poo poo and replacing it with cheap but trendy contractor-grade stuff. There's a small-ish colonial down the road from my house where the flippers tore out the original hardwood to replace it with bargain basement LVP. I have no idea why you'd do that, but I assume because restoring the hardwood was hard, and plunking new vinyl down was easy.
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Flippers are actually a net good for society and should be treated as heroes: you see, poor marginalized disabled BIPOCs working class folx have exploited lived experiences and can not afford loans for renovations due to intersectional racism. It is actually bad for them to pay less for a house that could use contemporary trendy renovations as to compete with social expectation hierarchy! So by baking pre-sale renovations into a home price you allow the marginalized people to pay for the renovation with a bigger mortgage! win/win!!
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Ammanas posted:not to worry, you'll profit 10x when you sell but then where will I live?
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Dec 1, 2022 01:06
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Get the permits, build an ADU in a corner of the lot, subdivide the land so you've got a 1000 sq ft. plot, and become a stinky hermit who has a permanent easement onto your former property.
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Dec 1, 2022 06:46
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probably violates zoning
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I asked someone on the planning commission if the city was considering doing away with single-family zoning, and I'm pretty sure they tried to tell me that multifamily zoning was the actual problem. I, uh.. many people think the role of planning is to plan for property owners' investments to grow in value forever
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Dec 1, 2022 15:02
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 Back end of my block in my lovely neighborhood, already contingent, I thought prices were supposed to come down soon or something.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:27
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drat that's a nice looking house for under 300k
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Dec 1, 2022 15:29
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It's a 115 year old house in a working class neighborhood, $295K is absolutely insane for that place.  It's likely a dead grandma house with flipper patches
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Dec 1, 2022 15:31
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Greg12 posted:many people think the role of planning is to plan for property owners' investments to grow in value forever Yeah they were really making a racial equity argument that went in the wrong direction. In their view black property owners were denied the advantages that come from single-family zoning, thus multi-family zoning was to blame. Great starting point with a terrible conclusion.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:32
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oh drat lol, that's quite the markup there
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Dec 1, 2022 15:32
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That's one of the worst gray-overs I've ever seen.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:33
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It's a block from a light rail stop, which is probably good because you're not getting your car off that hill in the winter.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:34
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Not on all seasons, you won't. But who buys snow tires in america? I hope that house is haunted by someone's grandma.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:38
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 not sure why they stuck laundry hookups on the first or second level since that house definitely has a basement. seems like a waste of living area also I don't see a 220v hookup for a dryer there, or a gas outlet
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Dec 1, 2022 15:40
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If you have two stories, a second floor laundry room owns, from all accounts I've heard. No one wants to lug clothes up/down stairs.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:43
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If you're physically hosed up enough to not be able to climb stairs you aren't going to consider buying that place to begin with, it's three stories.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:If you have two stories, a second floor laundry room owns, from all accounts I've heard. No one wants to lug clothes up/down stairs. lmao not if there ain’t a 240v socket
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:
prices are down 10% from peak here... still 130k more than they were prepandemic tho
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Dec 1, 2022 16:35
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people fled the cities during covid and that's why prices everywhere will never be as low as they were in 2019 ever again
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:people fled the cities during covid and that's why prices everywhere will never be as low as they were in 2019 ever again so city prices came down, got it
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