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Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
going out loving sucks man, shits too expensive it's annoying to get around and try to organize everyone into going somewhere, better to just stay at home

Also isn't this what goons wanted, people not going out = no COVID risk

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

some plague rats posted:

He should be redeemed directly into a loving grave

this is called the Sophocles

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Anyone have the premium feed for Our Fake History? I want to learn about the Beta Israel in Ethiopia

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

i say swears online posted:

my roommate owned this (endangered species shirt) in 2004-5 lol

my buddy had the SA "N***** I poo poo TRAINS" shirt lmfao

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

not caring abou t any interaction on a dating app is absolutely the optimal strategy for using them

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
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Farm Frenzy posted:

not caring abou t any interaction on a dating app is absolutely the optimal strategy for using them

ok mister bust rodd :twisted:

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i've never used an app. all my partners have come from romantic meet-cutes :shobon:

also those don't exist anymore so lol rip

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
I was very unironically distressed to learn that I have more face to face friend time than the average despite still feeling very socially isolated

We're gonna find out in like 10 years that not getting three hugs a week cause permeant frontal lobe damage or something

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Just be hot idiots

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

tokin opposition posted:

I was very unironically distressed to learn that I have more face to face friend time than the average despite still feeling very socially isolated

We're gonna find out in like 10 years that not getting three hugs a week cause permeant frontal lobe damage or something
it's kind of hosed up. the trueanon red pill episode is just sad. i don't even really know what to say. i guess it's like one of those things like climate change where there's nothing really to be done so just roll with it, but i do feel very bad for zoomers. being born with an iphone in hand and consuming non-stop social media since like 3 years old is not healthy. freddie article on fake social media mental illness is also just sad

the internet was a mistake

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


paul_soccer12 posted:

Just be hot idiots

you still have to go out!

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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Be friends with women, if your not repulsive they'll either give you a shot or try to set you up with their female friends. Put 10% of your warhams miniatures budget towards a gym membership. Do literally anything besides sit at home obsessing about covid. Do some arts and crafts or something. You can still game with like 70% of your freetime this way so you give up nothing besides those hours where you just kind of listlessly do nothing in the AH or Jita or whatever the gently caress it is goons are playing these days.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Xaris posted:

it's kind of hosed up. the trueanon red pill episode is just sad. i don't even really know what to say. i guess it's like one of those things like climate change where there's nothing really to be done so just roll with it, but i do feel very bad for zoomers. being born with an iphone in hand and consuming non-stop social media since like 3 years old is not healthy. freddie article on fake social media mental illness is also just sad

the internet was a mistake

It kinda sucks that the age of instant messaging was so relatively short. I feel like it was actually kind of good for teenage social stuff, as opposed to social networks which are loving awful. There wasn't the peer pressure element because everyone wasn't plugged into a network of their peers - it just enabled easy text talking (which also made it easier to do things like tell someone you had a crush on them, etc). It basically just made it easier to "break the ice" with people, as opposed to the current situation where you have to carefully manage a presentation of your entire identity to an audience of your peers.

Cael posted:

*stops caring about dating and sits in my apartment alone every friday/saturday for years never interacting with another person* WHY AM I NOT GETTING hosed

I'm just saying that it's the sort of thing you need to put an effort towards and that I did fine back when I was I was super angsty and preoccupied with getting a girlfriend (simply because those feelings lead to me at least being around and socializing with girls). I don't mind my current situation at all, because years of opiate addiction plus being on suboxone has just made me very tired. The idea of dating now just makes me feel stressed out.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Zedhe Khoja posted:

Be friends with women, if your not repulsive they'll either give you a shot or try to set you up with their female friends. Put 10% of your warhams miniatures budget towards a gym membership. Do literally anything besides sit at home obsessing about covid. Do some arts and crafts or something. You can still game with like 70% of your freetime this way so you give up nothing besides those hours where you just kind of listlessly do nothing in the AH or Jita or whatever the gently caress it is goons are playing these days.

Bad news, all women got together and decided to collectively raise our standards and now if you have a warhams budget at all you're not loving ever

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Smythe posted:

this is called the Sophocles

Good to know. Thanks, Smythe.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

one thing i never quite understand with all the loneliness takes is that the advice almost never seems to include getting active in some kind of organisation

it doesn't have to be anything political, ot can also be stuff like the appreciation society for a local historical figure or an amateur sports team or something. idk this may be because i'm in norway and we get the same basic complaints about loneliness despite having such an enormous number of groups which would appreciate another set of hands and reasonably able mind to do whatever it is they're trying to do, but it's never presented as something to try. i do get the impression that a lot of this is more restricted to school-based activities in yankeeland, but surely you have, like, dog training groups and things?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

V. Illych L. posted:

one thing i never quite understand with all the loneliness takes is that the advice almost never seems to include getting active in some kind of organisation

it doesn't have to be anything political, ot can also be stuff like the appreciation society for a local historical figure or an amateur sports team or something. idk this may be because i'm in norway and we get the same basic complaints about loneliness despite having such an enormous number of groups which would appreciate another set of hands and reasonably able mind to do whatever it is they're trying to do, but it's never presented as something to try. i do get the impression that a lot of this is more restricted to school-based activities in yankeeland, but surely you have, like, dog training groups and things?
i'd agree with this.

i have an answer but tis probably best not to post it because it'd be a lot of words

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

V. Illych L. posted:

one thing i never quite understand with all the loneliness takes is that the advice almost never seems to include getting active in some kind of organisation

i'm in norway and we get the same basic complaints about loneliness

Americans socialize a lot less, 42 min/day in 2010 compared to 1:20. y’all Norwegians are social butterflies. its not from a difference in urban/rural either, gotta look into this …

https://www.ssb.no/en/kultur-og-fritid/tids-og-mediebruk/statistikk/tidsbruksundersokelsen

https://www.statista.com/statistics/189527/daily-time-spent-on-socializing-and-communicating-in-the-us-since-2009/

of course it’s gotten worse in the USA with the pandemic (34 m) but I can’t find updated time use for Norway.

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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V. Illych L. posted:

one thing i never quite understand with all the loneliness takes is that the advice almost never seems to include getting active in some kind of organisation


the communist community center i help out at (and might start giving basic metal working lessons at) is basically a big ol singles meet up and half the couples who attend met at it
I'm not sure the us has community centers in that fashion (all the ones i've seen are visited exclusively by chuddy seniors and are next to police stations) but worth a shot, and other orgs advertise in those spaces

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

KirbyKhan posted:

They do, it is the second half. They do about 3-4 paragraphs of talking about each subforum. He recites the history of LF and CSPAM. He name drops Brown Mosus and Bellingcat as proof for the far and wide reach that our great forums have.

Oh it'll gently caress that right up.

It brings me no pleasure to report this. I must post: Guy Mann recited no lies about the forums. There are no misrepresentations or hateful exaggerations. The detail about posters is immaculate. Lmao at no time does he mention his lifetime achievement permaban.

Absolutely terribly podcast to listen to. The audio and voice makes me recoil. I can tell he edited it to drop pauses between words. The reverb vibrates my skull in a dissonant way. Do not listen. But yes, it contains so many poster stories. It is a posternomicon.

You skipped over the worst part which is the lack of preparation on the part of the hosts.

There are two and one knows almost nothing about the topic. The other has knowledge but at no point did they sit down with an outline about what the episode would be about so it's just run-on sentences and ideas that come to them in the moment but out of order. There was a structure agreed upon in advance but it comes out muddled showing an obvious lack of just writing down what they wanted to say about each subforum, or what ideas they wanted to bring across to the listener.

Yes, the production is bad but the lack of preparation is unforgivable. With a plan it would've been an amateur production that at least clearly conveys something but if you're unfamiliar with the material then really all a naive listener would glean was that SA was (is?) an old gathering place with an interesting history (citations needed). They don't have prepared examples for their assertions. When describing something they don't give any examples for context. The most egregious was the attempt to describe FYAD with something along the lines of "They talk about all kinds of stuff here that's just way over the line. Let me open it up... yeah I can't read any of these thread titles on this podcast." Okay, that tells the listener nothing. HAVE AN EXAMPLE READY.

In descriptions of the subforums again he's just saying what he believes off the top of his head instead of saying why a listener should care. Occasionally he backs into something interesting about them, like how toxxing changed the politics of the forums from libertarian to socialist, but it's entirely by accident. The descriptions should be "This is what it is, this is why you should care" but mostly they aren't.

It's very much a goon project where no effort was made to establish a plan first and the execution is just winging it and hoping it comes together. Simply put, I have no faith that any effort will be forthcoming in either planning for each episode's narrative or the flow of episodes so that a naive listener would care about these stories in a wider context. It's a complete failure at every level.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

LastInLine posted:

It's very much a goon project where no effort was made to establish a plan first and the execution is just winging it and hoping it comes together. Simply put, I have no faith that any effort will be forthcoming in either planning for each episode's narrative or the flow of episodes so that a naive listener would care about these stories in a wider context. It's a complete failure at every level.
i appreciate you put more effort thinking about this than guy mann did for his stupid poo poo

once again, goons ftw

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
is Your Kickstarter Sucks any good?

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.
jesse farrar is a funny guy. give it a go and report back

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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hot drat back to back War Nerd episodes on the collapse of the ottoman empire

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

RWN has been pretty bad lately as they try to assure their audience they don’t secretly love Putin. Hopefully a few history episodes will get them out of the slump.

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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can’t say I like that last Afghan one, esp given how good some of their past ones were

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

YES! Lack of preparation coupled with the academic distance. I retched at being described as a tribe. It hits similar tone as the Lowtax College Presentation, where I can tell this college educated dude spent 20,000 hours on the forums, but only spent 2 hours thinking about how to describe it to someone who wasn't already a mod.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

KirbyKhan posted:

YES! Lack of preparation coupled with the academic distance. I retched at being described as a tribe. It hits similar tone as the Lowtax College Presentation, where I can tell this college educated dude spent 20,000 hours on the forums, but only spent 2 hours thinking about how to describe it to someone who wasn't already a mod.

The other thing is that they (I say "they" but it's really just the only qualified guy) completely miss the core concept that makes forums generate content when describing the structure. This is why I say I have no faith they can make this an interesting podcast.

In the back half, as described, he just runs down the forums in order and says what they are. What he doesn't explain in detail is the purpose (though he does mention that it's what they are) of FYAD-lites. This is a SA-specific concept that a naive listener would have no analogy for, so you'd expect him to say something like "There are forums about topics, like computers or politics, where serious discussion takes place but attached to some are forums called 'FYAD-lites' where they talk about the same topic, but from a position of already being knowledgeable about it and make observations about the humor to be found within." and then provide examples like YOSPOS being tech industry insiders talking about how lovely the tech industry is or LF/C-SPAM viewing politics as inherently bad. YOU'D DO THIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE HUMOR COMES FROM.

So they failed to explain an important foreign concept that is directly in service of the purported end of the podcast itself. If they're going to do that, they aren't going to understand or highlight anything of any importance. And again, that's something that comes up if you have a plan because otherwise it's a guy reading a list into a microphone badly.

Also I should mention that killhamster is mentioned in the credits (sound design or something) :gooncamp:

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Oh right, Guy Mann correction. He mentioned Jeffrey of YOSPOS came from YOSPOS which is untrue. Jeffrey lost a game of chance with some YOSPOS grognard who requested his name change as a trophy.

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there
I can’t imagine hating yourself so much you will voluntarily listen to guy mann’s podcast. Jesus, I pity you

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Shipon posted:

going out loving sucks man, shits too expensive it's annoying to get around and try to organize everyone into going somewhere, better to just stay at home

Also isn't this what goons wanted, people not going out = no COVID risk

the parks are free man

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

Xaris posted:

is Your Kickstarter Sucks any good?

it's funny if you like podcasts where a lot of the humor comes from talking about how bad their own podcast is (this sounds like i'm insulting them but i actually like it). they're both pretty funny guys and jesse can somehow keep the conversation going no matter what. give it a go

my husband thinks it's funny that straight people do hobbies to meet romantic partners. i have to point out that not everybody moves somewhere with a ready-made community of queer people desperate for new people to date

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

a lot of folks are finding love in “politicules.” it’s pretty cheap. https://act.dsausa.org/donate/membership/

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

bessner and christman are just utterly smoked intellectually by wyman on the most recent hingepoints lol

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Zedhe Khoja posted:

can’t say I like that last Afghan one, esp given how good some of their past ones were

They always have these loser troops on which say nothing interesting.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Dang dude you're sad that you got sent over to terrorize the locals? Cry me a river you dumb bitch.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
when dan bessner calls himself "danny" it instantly makes me think of dan egan from veep when he got hired to be on a morning show

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Dang dude you're sad that you got sent over to terrorize the locals? Cry me a river you dumb bitch.

"sent over" my rear end he volunteered because he had a crisis of masculinity

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/stavvybaby/status/1598394477797933115

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

paul_soccer12 posted:

when dan bessner calls himself "danny" it instantly makes me think of dan egan from veep when he got hired to be on a morning show

lol i forgot about that subplot

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