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K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

Jack Trades posted:

Random question.

Do any of the other Resident Evil play the same way RE6 does? I honestly really liked the combat in that stupid game, especially with Leon.
There was a good amount of depth and variety to it, knowing how to trigger different wrestling move prompts with precise shots, rolling on the ground like an idiot to dodge the leaping mosters and make them all hit each other, hitting a motherfucker with another motherfucker, etc.

I know RE6 Leon obviously plays the same as RE4 Leon but I couldn't stand the tank controls in that game.

Go back and play RE4 and RE5. They're loving excellent games. You'll get over your hatred for the controls, they're actually well designed. The game is balanced around them, not being able to effortlessly kite while doing damage is the point.

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









The Joe Man posted:

Is Wrath also a status effect-based nightmare like the first one was?

Oh gently caress yes

Kingmaker is sort of baldurs gate cosy fantasy, wrath is epic heavy metal. They both have a superb real time/pause engine and they both have a nightmarishly intricate system but if you turn the difficulty down and just pick default leveling options you will do fine.

Master_Odin
Apr 15, 2010

My spear never misses its mark...

ladies

Saoshyant posted:

Gris pissed me off so much with its achievements where if you don't know what's ahead and you step out of the area or get hit by anything you didn't know would happen (because it's the first time playing), you can't generally revert to a previous save because "gently caress you, no manual saves, we autosave when we feel like it and there's no going back!!" and now you gotta replay the whole game again because of one or two missing achievements.

Like, I know it's on me that the experience was ruined for caring about something as dumb as achievements, but they existing, being annoying to get, and the game also loving up the experience due to shoddy saves, that's not entirely on me and it certainly didn't make for a "relaxing" time.
I played through it a couple of months ago, and after beating the game it allowed you to select individual chapters to complete, allowing quitting out one midway if you'd gotten the secrets. I found it was just an additional hour or so to pick up all the achievements I'd missed since I also knew the game and was bumming rush it anyway.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Anno posted:

Reviews are out for Marvel’s Midnight Suns and seem generally very good. It does seem like you have to want both the combat side of the game and the superhero hangout side, too, though, as form what I can tell there’s a lot of both.

A quote from one review:

god this is like it was made for my terrible brain. help, help!

vaginite
Feb 8, 2006

I'm comin' for you, colonel.



Asking on pathfinder wrath:

I beat kingmaker on normal difficulty and it was a slog. I remember hitting the last chapter or two where all the evil elf guys from the other dimension show up and had near 95% chance to resist everything my magic users had. Every single monster had insurmountable resistances. Also any kind of tanking was pointless because there wasn't any way to effectively pin anything down like one attack of opportunity didn't mean poo poo. Luckily I had a monk that was just a blender and could basically solo any encounter, so it was a monk death machine, a healer for the monk, and 4 useless people.

I didn't follow any guides and just did recommended builds for the most part. And my party wasn't weird or goofy yolo builds it was just standard poo poo, rogue, healer, monk, fighter, and a couple casters.

I guess my question would be: is the balancing in wrath all stupid and lovely?

e: actually now that I'm writing this I remember a spot where your party gets split up and you have to go free them, and my monk got split out so I had to savescum fights to hit like a couple 5% chance casts to be able to clear an encounter and get to my monk to free him. Now that I think about it gently caress wrath. I have opposite of goon syndrome where I have to beat a game if I buy it and I don't wanna risk getting stuck in that poo poo again.

vaginite fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Dec 1, 2022

Sinatrapod
Sep 24, 2007

The "Latin" is too dangerous, my queen!
Wrath certainly has some warts but it also had nothing anywhere near the complex weave of bullshittery the ending section of Kingmaker had. It starts creaking and buckling under the sheer weight of the XTREEM EPICNESS in the late game (D&D variants all kind of do when you get over level 15+) but I played on normal with an intentionally non-minmaxed build and found the difficulty to be fairly pleasant. You will definitely have to learn a bit of the system and read your feats though, as getting your bonuses high enough to crack the armor class or saves of boss monsters can be dire otherwise. We're talking "take MAKE FIRE MAGIC GOODER feat on your fire wizard instead of the +4 acrobatics feat" level of basic diligence, though.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

I kinda want to play the Pathfinder games but I prefer doing my own thing rather than follow default builds and can't really be arsed to learn a new system. At least not if it's D&D style where you can totally gimp a character just trying to make something cool. I inevitably made incredibly lovely gish characters in Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights and then had to go back and read a bunch of forum posts before planning something that actually worked.

I actually really enjoy planning character builds but that's the kind of thing one does on a second, hard difficulty playthrough after attaining some systems knowledge instead of going in blind.

Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Dec 1, 2022

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Fruits of the sea posted:

...and can't really be arsed to learn a new system
I have some good news for you...

Fruits of the sea posted:

At least not if it's D&D style
...uhhhh nevermind

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Fruits of the sea posted:

I kinda want to play the Pathfinder games but I prefer doing my own thing rather than follow default builds and can't really be arsed to learn a new system. At least not if it's D&D style where you can totally gimp a character just trying to make something cool. I inevitably made incredibly lovely gish characters in Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights and then had to go back and read a bunch of forum posts before planning something that actually worked.

I actually really enjoy planning character builds but that's the kind of thing one does on a second, hard difficulty playthrough after attaining some systems knowledge instead of going in blind.
For what it's worth, I beat Wrath with a gimmick character (a lightning-specialized Magus - the spellblade class - in a game where most enemies are lightning immune, which I obviously didn't know beforehand) so roleplaying something cool is definitely an option. The mythic abilities you get as you progress the plot give you a fair bit of leeway, as do the various difficulty sliders.

e: It definitely requires you to sit down and spend a couple hours figuring out how you want to play the thing you want to play, though.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Dec 1, 2022

AfricanBootyShine
Jan 9, 2006

Snake wins.

The more I hear about Pathfinder the more confused I am about their success. But I've been hankering for another isometric RPG and I've pretty much played all of them except for the two Owlcat games.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Fruits of the sea posted:

I kinda want to play the Pathfinder games but I prefer doing my own thing rather than follow default builds and can't really be arsed to learn a new system. At least not if it's D&D style where you can totally gimp a character just trying to make something cool.

just play on easiest or second easiest difficulty, the complexity will be there but without team wipes due to bad rolls

oh, and don't take Trickster on your first run, it kinda spoils some things from other mythic paths

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

AfricanBootyShine posted:

If I'm going to play one Pathfinder game, should I play Kingmaker or Wrath of the Righteous? Pretend that price doesn't make a difference.

And please don't say 'play Kingmaker first otherwise you won't enjoy it after playing Wrath of the Righteous'.

Kingmaker was way too generic fantasy story for me, meanwhile I found Wrath to have a really interesting cast and main plot that I forced myself to plow though the godawful combat because I was curious about the plot and it was worth it.

(Install the ToyBox mod and cheat like a motherfucker whenever the game throws another bullshit encounter at you)

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

The Joe Man posted:

I have some good news for you...

...uhhhh nevermind


anilEhilated posted:

For what it's worth, I beat Wrath with a gimmick character (a lightning-specialized Magus - the spellblade class - in a game where most enemies are lightning immune, which I obviously didn't know beforehand) so roleplaying something cool is definitely an option. The mythic abilities you get as you progress the plot give you a fair bit of leeway, as do the various difficulty sliders.

e: It definitely requires you to sit down and spend a couple hours figuring out how you want to play the thing you want to play, though.


Goa Tse-tung posted:

just play on easiest or second easiest difficulty, the complexity will be there but without team wipes due to bad rolls

oh, and don't take Trickster on your first run, it kinda spoils some things from other mythic paths

Yeah, see every time I mention my qualms about Pathfinder, I get a bunch of "it's cool but..." replies :v:

The same thing happened with Pillars of Eternity where I made a crap gish dude and then asked where I went wrong. And goons recommended several gimmick muscle wizard builds. Which were super neat but also something I would never have been able to build without first reading through the game wiki and theorycrafting. Which is not how I want to spend my first hours of a game, that's second playthrough content.

Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Dec 1, 2022

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

AfricanBootyShine posted:

The more I hear about Pathfinder the more confused I am about their success. But I've been hankering for another isometric RPG and I've pretty much played all of them except for the two Owlcat games.

It's a long D&D/Pathfinder romp where the computer does a lot of the busywork for you + pretty graphics. Also there's a lot of people who've played 3.5 and it's basically the same system.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
In regards to Darktide, what's the most rebellious background I can pick as a psyker that isn't also a maniac? I only ask because saying things like "I serve gladly" in the prologue is not at all what I want this character to be, if possible. I remember playing in the beta on steam (now on xbox game pass) and my character was in no way a blind follower of the Imperium, though it might be due to an alteration to what voice lines are being used rather than any changes I did when creating it.

I distinctly remember several lines about how cruel the Imperium is and how it badly needed reform, and elsewhere I saw videos of ones that basically said the Emperor probably wasn't a real God.

Orv
May 4, 2011
Lmfao apparently sorta bad but somehow enjoyable ARPG Ascend: Hand of Kul is back on Steam, I guess rereleased by some rich person/people that liked it and wanted it back in the world. Is it worth your time necessarily? I dunno but it was kinda cool and I think about it every once and a while.

Sinatrapod
Sep 24, 2007

The "Latin" is too dangerous, my queen!

evilmiera posted:

In regards to Darktide, what's the most rebellious background I can pick as a psyker that isn't also a maniac? I only ask because saying things like "I serve gladly" in the prologue is not at all what I want this character to be, if possible. I remember playing in the beta on steam (now on xbox game pass) and my character was in no way a blind follower of the Imperium, though it might be due to an alteration to what voice lines are being used rather than any changes I did when creating it.

I distinctly remember several lines about how cruel the Imperium is and how it badly needed reform, and elsewhere I saw videos of ones that basically said the Emperor probably wasn't a real God.

I gotta say I think an iconoclastic psyker would last about 2 minutes anywhere in the Imperium, even under the protection of a Inquisitor. Probably ESPECIALLY in employ of an Inquisitor, since they know exactly what kind of barbed tentacle nightmare happens when the psy-enabled start Getting Ideas. Psykers who can't at least put on a really good act of following the party line wouldn't make it past Black Ark detail.

PowerBeard
Sep 4, 2011
Midnight Suns will be a nice little treat for the Christmas holidays. I loved my multiple playthroughs of Chimera Squad.

Card game tactics.
Stupid companion stuff.
Sexy Venom.

Sounds like heaven.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Midnight Suns is confusing me because I cringed pretty hard at the deckbuilding part (coming from someone who's really into tactical games and loved XCOM 1 & 2 and the first third of Chimera Squad), but the dating super heroes bit is stupid enough to make me intrigued.

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

Fruits of the sea posted:

Yeah, see every time I mention my qualms about Pathfinder, I get a bunch of "it's cool but..." replies :v:

The same thing happened with Pillars of Eternity where I made a crap gish dude and then asked where I went wrong. And goons recommended several gimmick muscle wizard builds. Which were super neat but also something I would never have been able to build without first reading through the game wiki and theorycrafting. Which is not how I want to spend my first hours of a game, that's second playthrough content.

Just set the difficulty at normal or below and you can do basically whatever you want. Pathfinder has very modular difficulty options so it’s easy to tailor it to whatever level of investment you want to put into maximizing your characters builds.

Quill
Jan 19, 2004
Just as a heads up, ACG had a different take to Midnight Suns from SkillUp;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdLeo205m6k

Sounds like it's a case of value judgement.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

evilmiera posted:

In regards to Darktide, what's the most rebellious background I can pick as a psyker that isn't also a maniac? I only ask because saying things like "I serve gladly" in the prologue is not at all what I want this character to be, if possible. I remember playing in the beta on steam (now on xbox game pass) and my character was in no way a blind follower of the Imperium, though it might be due to an alteration to what voice lines are being used rather than any changes I did when creating it.

I distinctly remember several lines about how cruel the Imperium is and how it badly needed reform, and elsewhere I saw videos of ones that basically said the Emperor probably wasn't a real God.

This is unfortunately not-jokingly a contradiction in terms. They're leaning very hard into the setting fluff, and in the setting fluff a psyker working for the Imperium, especially the inquisition, is either extremely good at at least pretending to lick fascist boots or is dead.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Kanos posted:

This is unfortunately not-jokingly a contradiction in terms. They're leaning very hard into the setting fluff, and in the setting fluff a psyker working for the Imperium, especially the inquisition, is either extremely good at at least pretending to lick fascist boots or is dead.

One of the Psyker voices is constantly bagging on the Imperium. Whichever one is the dreamer stuff, I believe Seer. I dunno how they get away with it, mind.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


I bought 2 anime games which have an optional adult patch, of which I only played one and without the patch, and now steam only keeps recommending me porn games.

I hope it gets overwritten soon, I've been playing other games since but all I see is porn in the recommendations.

e: The game was pretty fun though (Venus Blood: Frontier).

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Dec 1, 2022

PowerBeard
Sep 4, 2011
Listen, if Steam is recommending you Sex with Hitler 3D, it might just be the sleeper hit of the year.

"The meaty slap of Hitlers one ball really made me think about systemic oppression" - IGN 9.5

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Kanos posted:

This is unfortunately not-jokingly a contradiction in terms. They're leaning very hard into the setting fluff, and in the setting fluff a psyker working for the Imperium, especially the inquisition, is either extremely good at at least pretending to lick fascist boots or is dead.

From what I've tested, even the most rebellious psyker voice still tries to convince the people at the start of the game that they are loyal, but also shittalk the Imperium every chance they get once on a mission with the other rejects.

Edit: But also, if indeed everyone always listen in on the conversations you have over the comms, almost everyone would be executed for heresy or sedition immediately after a mission. While the game is good with its lore in a lot of ways...

evilmiera fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Dec 1, 2022

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Yeah the one that sounds like a crazed german is the audience surrogate who says variations of "we live in the worst of all possible worlds".

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Private Speech posted:

I bought 2 anime games which have an optional adult patch, of which I only played one and without the patch, and now steam only keeps recommending me porn games.

I hope it gets overwritten soon, I've been playing other games since but all I see is porn in the recommendations.

e: The game was pretty fun though (Venus Blood: Frontier).

Is it true that you can't corrupt them if their mingle has reached 99 and you've given them a second title?

e: I'm not poking fun at you, that sentence just made me giggle

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



Phlegmish posted:

I recently got a new computer. Anyone have a recommendation for a game that is beautiful and not too challenging (I'd like it to be a relaxing experience)? I know that's really vague, but I myself am not sure what exactly I'm in the market for.

Abzu, Flower.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Private Speech posted:

I bought 2 anime games which have an optional adult patch, of which I only played one and without the patch, and now steam only keeps recommending me porn games.

I hope it gets overwritten soon, I've been playing other games since but all I see is porn in the recommendations.

e: The game was pretty fun though (Venus Blood: Frontier).

sorry op but every game with an 'optional' adult patch is a game primarily for porn, that just means it was released before steam allowed games to release with unpatched anime tentacle orgies. so everyone else who bought the game bought it for the porno and now steam's algorithm is assuming that applies to you too

add hentai to your steam tag blacklist. you can maybe do sexual content and nudity too but those tags can also block 'real' games like witcher 3 sometimes

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
they're not always primarily for porn. sometimes they are pretty fun old school dungeon crawlers which happen to have an inexplicable amount of porn

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



this might be the first documented case of steam recommending porn to someone who was actually interested in purchasing porn games

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I imagine porno games make insane amounts of revenue on Steam because weirdo poo poo always does. The amount of crypto currency that has been spent on big titty VNs....

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Always bet on bapcoin.

PowerBeard
Sep 4, 2011
Porn games are good now. VR Hot doesn't have an option to stop your partner from talking because they're concerned that it would just make them real dolls or dehumanise them.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



exquisite tea posted:

Always bet on bfapcoin.
:yeah:

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

PowerBeard posted:

Porn games are good now. VR Hot doesn't have an option to stop your partner from talking because they're concerned that it would just make them real dolls or dehumanise them.

Just jerk off to normal stuff please

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Cowcaster posted:

this might be the first documented case of steam recommending porn to someone who was actually interested in purchasing porn games

Pouring one out for all the undocumented gamers trying to keep their nose out of trouble and their head in some titties. Gaben really should offer amnesty to all the porn gamers. They have played such a big part in the gaming nation's history and everyday in our Steam communities - it's time we all recognized that, and offered them a path to citizenship.

Dream on, dreamers

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



not that kind of documented

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MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

zoux posted:

Just jerk off to normal stuff please

do you have any idea how old that gets after a few decades

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