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are we not allowed to criticize the design of the game
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Games are for children go do a Marxism outside 
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Dec 3, 2022 02:29
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I’m saying if this mechanism changes as outlined and the rest stays the same, welfare will remain a trap option liable to ruin your economy in the game. That’s a gameplay criticism. Furthermore this can be fixed by incentivizing the aggressive lowering of wages to the lowest level the market will bear while maximizing profit. Ironically, this game mechanic suggestion also mirrors real life capitalist incentives. Another fix would be decoupling welfare from wages and coupling it to some expected SoL instead. Just don’t couple it to average worker SoL without doing the above because that’s just a coupling to wages with extra steps.
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Dec 3, 2022 10:24
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Slavvy posted:Games are for children go do a Marxism outside kids: we want marxism mom: weve got marxism at home marxism at home: (I got nothing)
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Dec 3, 2022 18:01
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Orange Devil posted:Furthermore this can be fixed by incentivizing the aggressive lowering of wages to the lowest level the market will bear while maximizing profit. Ironically, this game mechanic suggestion also mirrors real life capitalist incentives. And as I quoted they explicitly said they decided to not do that. And you can't decouple wages and SoL because that's like their core design of the game.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:02
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Uhuh, they make poor choices causing a broken game. The good news is it can be fixed.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:06
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I've god bad news for you. They decided to not fix the game.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:07
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Lostconfused posted:I've god bad news for you. It is very funny that they said they wont let capitalism behave the way it actually does to not increase radicalization
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Dec 3, 2022 18:47
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Kaiserreich russia update when?
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Dec 3, 2022 19:30
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I have no idea, soon maybe? They're still talking about it. It's been in the works for over a year now because the person working on it went off to do something else. Or something like that.
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Dec 3, 2022 20:03
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i have been having fun playing the after the end mod for crusader kings 3
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Dec 3, 2022 20:08
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happy for you maybe ill give it a try sometime
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Dec 3, 2022 20:15
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After the End came out?
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Dec 3, 2022 20:57
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Tankbuster posted:Kaiserreich russia update when? Tommykay just dropped a Poland Kaiserraich video. Old World Blues haven't announced updates in months, last thing they put out was that they wanna poach HOI4 modders. I think this pile of mods we got is it for a while. Last mod focused update hosed up every mod dev team, they all got consumed making custom medal divisions.
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Dec 3, 2022 20:58
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I just wanted the reworked india mang. Oh well, another CSA run it is.
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Dec 3, 2022 21:01
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Old World Blues has been getting new updates constantly? They mostly include changes to existing minors or adding new ones though.
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I had heard Cyberpunk 2077 was good after the 1.6 update this year, and in gameplay terms that might be true(r) but, despite having a setting perfect for it, it's unable to string together a critique of the society depicted. The root of pretty much every problem the game makes a big deal of, with the exception of maybe rogue AIs behind the Blackwall, is "Capitalism" but instead the best it can come up with is "corporations" and "consumerism". The anarchist character that lives in your head is as stupid and useless as you'd expect, embodying the Gen X Californian ideology that "fighting the system" through music and "chaos" for its own sake have meaning. Quarter to Three had more to say about the treatment of genre, which I know less about, but there's a lot I agree with: So what does developer CD Projekt do with this gimmick? They tell us that corporations are evil. Johnny Silverhand is a “rocker” — the term is used unironically — who got disillusioned. Fame and partying are hard on a guy. But in case that’s not enough to rouse angst, he gets a facile last-minute motivation added to the mix (get ready to cross “woman in refrigerator” off your character motivation bingo card). So Johnny Silverhand decides to 9/11 the local corporate skyscraper with a nuclear weapon. At which point, for reasons that are either unexplained or explained so poorly that I wiped them from my memory banks, his consciousness is written onto a top-secret high-tech experimental memory chip which sits around for fifty years. And then your character steals it and puts it into his or her head. So now you have a virtual rocker buddy. He appears from time to time to pontificate awkwardly about the evils of corporations. Johnny Silverhand is hard-rocking, hard-partying, and hardboiled, and boy does he hate corporations! He really puts the “dur” in Tyler Durden. You can disagree with him if you like, and the story would have you think it’s going to explore the push/pull between your will and his. But it’s not. Given how little the narrative matters, he’s just going to carry on about destroying evil corporations, waving his silver hand around, and intoning in Keanu Reeves’ best attempt at a super serious read. “Whoa, I know anarchy.” https://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2020/12/15/looking-for-the-cyberpunk-in-cyberpunk-2077/ Apologies if there's a general CSPAM games thread I missed.
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Tankbuster posted:After the End came out? open beta, it's not on steam workshop yet so you gotta download it off the reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/AfterTheEndFanFork/comments/z99n29/after_the_end_ck3_open_beta/
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Frosted Flake posted:Apologies if there's a general CSPAM games thread I missed. There is, it's here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3874955 They mainly talk about Fromsoftware games, and sometimes Disco Elysium. Cyberpunk was discussed, but I think the main conclusion is that it was a game written by liberals which kind of explains why the story is the way it is.
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Lostconfused posted:There is, it's here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3874955 excuse me have you not heard that thread has been taken over by morons creaming themselves over fortnite
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Dec 4, 2022 02:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUP2Nh5Dnig A better review than the kotaku (?) one from a while ago.
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Dec 4, 2022 03:00
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Obviously Fortnite just needs some Guderian, Rommel, and Stepan Bandera skins to draw in the grognard crowd
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Dec 4, 2022 03:07
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gradenko_2000 posted:Obviously Fortnite just needs some Guderian, Rommel, and Stepan Bandera skins to draw in the grognard crowd drat i can't believe you can play fortnite as the byzantine empire now
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Dec 4, 2022 03:09
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doing fornite dances on the walls of byzantium before getting vaporized by ottoman cannon
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https://twitter.com/us_sams/status/1594824265530056705?t=EckjxPlq7xfX1EcJuYickw&s=19 Someone run forums Diplomacy pls
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Frosted Flake posted:I had heard Cyberpunk 2077 was good after the 1.6 update this year, and in gameplay terms that might be true(r) but, despite having a setting perfect for it, it's unable to string together a critique of the society depicted. The root of pretty much every problem the game makes a big deal of, with the exception of maybe rogue AIs behind the Blackwall, is "Capitalism" but instead the best it can come up with is "corporations" and "consumerism". cyberpunk 2077 was the platonic ideal of the guy going "wow cool future" while all of its horrors flew over his head. i really wonder how mike pondsmith feels about it
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/us_sams/status/1594824265530056705?t=EckjxPlq7xfX1EcJuYickw&s=19 Heard an apocryphal story about the Nixon cabinet sitting down to play Diplomacy one evening and no one talking to each other for a week afterwards.
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Nixon Gaming
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Nixon was definitely a gamer as far as saying the words
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Nixon First Gaming Podcaster President
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nixon is that guy that is a little bit too into playing the nazis in any given wargames or has a fully painted SS Leibstandarte army, and admires them for their efficiency
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Richard Wargaming Nixon posted:"The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time—it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd." Nixon went to any hot couch or convention hall that hosted a tabletop game. Always afraid that his CIA roleplay group was taking it far too seriously, but he couldn't drop the DM of that group. Decades later it turns out this messy bitch was right.
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Tekopo posted:nixon is that guy that is a little bit too into playing the nazis in any given wargames The famously efficient guys who tried to drive through marked minefields at Kursk.
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wait what?
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Imagine reading intelligence about panicked Americans thinking your tiger tanks are invincible, then deciding they are in fact invincible. Idk if that ever happened but if it did, that's the SS
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Dec 4, 2022 18:21
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Tankbuster posted:wait what? lol yeah, on the first day of Kursk's southern flank LSSAH tried to drive through a minefield, well, several marked minefields, at Bykovka. I can thumb through to pull quotes but it's one of those things that really should have ended the SS mystique then and there.
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ss mythology was manufactured by a mix of the us rehabilitating nazi generals post wwii and an American cottage industry of small press magazine/books/wargames that started in the 70 and developed through the 80s and early 90s some bits aren’t great but The Myth of the Eastern Front is a good read
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Alright, so right off the bat, no surprise, guess who wrote the original English report on Kurk's southern flank? Why, Friedrich Fangohr Chief of Staff, Fourth Panzer Army! "Perhaps the most significant contribution of the postwar Kursk study— albeit one that has been unrealized until now (1950's)—was Busse's fortunate selection of Friedrich Fangohr to write the chapter on Fourth Panzer Army operations." What other publicans did he write for the US Army? One titled "...Population, and (Its) Influence on Warfare in the Soviet Union". "...he was the only senior member of Fourth Panzer Army staff to do any work for the U.S. Army..." "...he escaped Soviet captivity, serving for two weeks in mid-May as the head of the German liaison staff responsible for coordinating the disarmament and internment of Wehrmacht prisoners after the surrender at Rheims." "(The history of) Operation Citadel simply could not have been written by anyone else. Thus we have a valuable lost memoir of sorts from a key participant on the battle of Kursk... (though) Fangohr himself has nearly been lost to history." Well, in his telling, it went something like this: A German General posted:On the Plan Here's what the US summary of the same actions was: US Staff Analysis posted:The resulting comedy of errors had nothing to do with the infamous teething problems experienced by the Panthers and everything to do with the inexperience of their crews and the ineptitude of their commander. In a summary report, one observer noted that the two battalions moved to attack without (their commanders) issuing situational orders. The companies knew absolutely nothing about the attack plans. Confusion set in from the start, since neither objectives, formation, or direction were ordered. Lumbering awkwardly out of their assembly area in the dark, the Panthers first ran headlong into a minefield covered by Soviet antitank guns and antitank rifle platoons. Without training above the platoon level or effective radios, the new tanks took their first losses whiletrying to extricate themselves. Charging forward to make up lost time, (their commander) then ran his brigade into a hopeless bog, across which the combat engineers would have to spend critical hours building a bridge. US Writers on the SS, Southern Flank, July 5 posted:In comparing the relative success achieved by II SS Panzer Corps on 5 July 1943 to the mediocre results scored by XLVIII Panzer Corps, it is necessary to dispense with several deep-seated myths regarding the Waffen SS divisions in Operation Citadel. Many writers, like Robin Cross, tend to emphasize weight of numbers and the fanaticism of the troops, speaking of II SS Panzer Corps as "the ideological battering ram of Nazism, [which] was poised to strike with over 400 armoured fighting vehicles, including forty-two Tigers, and a Nebelwerfer brigade." (In reality they were short on vehicles due to breakdowns) German action the next Corps over posted:Lieutenant General Gustav Schmidt's 19th Panzer Division fared only slightly better. Breith and Schmidt had pinned their hopes on the fourteen Tigers spearheading the attack out of the bridgehead by Regimentsgruppe 429 and Panzergrenadier Regiment 74. Unfortunately, liaison between the regimental commander from the 168th Infantry Division and the headquarters of the 19th Panzer Division proved nonexistent. Captain Clemens Graf von Kageneck, commander of Tiger Battalion 503, reported that "there wasn't a single map available showing the location of the mines that had been laid by the German units in front of the bridgehead. Two completely contradictory mine plans were available, and both were incorrect." Kageneck's company lost nine tanks disabled by mines—seven of them to German mines! Four more Tigers fell victim to Soviet antitank fire because of what Kageneck characterized as the "result of carelessness or tactically incorrect employment." The heavy tanks had been intended "to advance in direct contact" with the assault troops, "directly behind the mine-detecting sections," but faced by extraordinarily heavy Russian fire the grenadiers lagged back, and "by the evening of 5 July, four Tigers stood 50 to 80 meters in front of the infantry elements," where they became the target of massed antitank fire. By nightfall only one of the fourteen Tigers committed to support 19th Panzer Division remained undamaged. "The loss of the Tiger-Kompanie, which was the Schwerpunkt of the attacking division," admitted Breith two weeks later, "was very detrimental to directing the battle." I could go on, but lol yeah LSSAH really hosed up.
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there was some ridiculous axis and Allie’s clone a decade ago that’s claim to fame was it was the worlds largest board game. there was some dude on the forums who would talk about having a full ss uniform on display in his game room. this was before it was super obvious to the mainstream that this guy was a maniac. anyway, I disagreed with him about a very specific rule regarding the navy and he tried to correct me but then the game designer came in and said he was wrong. a triumph for communism of the 21st century.
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Frosted Flake posted:Alright, so right off the bat, no surprise, guess who wrote the original English report on Kurk's southern flank? Why, Friedrich Fangohr Lol, LMAO even
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