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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

The worst thing about having siblings is the variety of insults you'd love to use but can't: bastard, motherfucker, son of a bitch, etc
You can still call them a Lib Dem.

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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1599345233241726977

Ho-hum.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

"We must have unity!" I cry, whilst actively sowing dissent.

I've used that quote in here before about Nadine, now I'm having to use it for Nadhim. It's a funny old world.

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

Guavanaut posted:

You can still call them a Lib Dem.

Jesus, I'm just being playful

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

These days, if you call your brother a lib dem,

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Please, we need to stay United. There's a world cup to win. Strikes is just what we want.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
Numbers without context

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Wow, it must have been really difficult for her to write like an empty-headed, spiteful tory freak while just making poo poo up.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
I'm wondering if I can get a bit of advice in how to deal with my GP clinic.

So, back on about Oct 14th I developed a cough that turned into flu symptoms until the 2nd week of Nov. At that point i just had an occasional wheezing cough so I went to the doctor.

I was prescribed antibiotics but by the following week I had full on cold and flu symptoms again so went back to the doctor.

A different one saw me this time (my GP uses an online form and you get the doctor that's available) and told me I have a post nasal drip and should start taking Beaconase nasal spray and ibuprofen.

I've been on that for over a week now and there's no difference, I'm coughing up stuff almost all day and holding a conversation is pretty difficult which is beginning to impact my work (I'm in a client facing role).

Anyway, it occurred to me that my 1 year old headbutted me square on the nose the night before I started coughing. It was so hard my wife heard whatever sound it made but, while it was sore, there wasn't any blood or bruising.

When I wiggle/move my nose now it still hurts in a way internally as if I'd been popped on the nose a few days ago or something.

Anyway, I look it up and Google suggests there could be a link, so I go back to the GP online on Friday and the doctor who replied said: "He didn't think it was related, but he's not sure" and I should just stick with the Beaconase for the next 6 weeks and get back in touch then if I'm still not better (note I don't actually have enough prescribed to me to last 6 weeks).

Sorry for the long winded tale, but should I just persist in getting checked again?

I'm not a medical expert and don't want to waste their time, but I figured any nose pain I'm still feeling almost 7 weeks after the original injury should warrant some concern.

Never mind, if it is related, it'll maybe be another 5 weeks of coughing stuff up on top of the 6 or so weeks I've already been ill.

It feels like I'm just being put through the deductive process of try x for a while before investigating anything else it could be.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Kin posted:

It feels like I'm just being put through the deductive process of try x for a while before investigating anything else it could be.

I mean that's sort of what (underfunded) medicine is. Nobody has the time to look at you properly to try and figure out what it actually is so they'll likely just bounce you around and try a whole load of different things until something works or it gets better on its own.

I had issues with eye inflammation that dragged on for 2 years until I was able to go private and see the right person and he said "It's [x], it's really obvious it's that, anybody who saw you previously should have been able to tell you that, I don't know why they sent you for [j, k, l] tests" which pissed me off no end... but at least I had a diagnosis and was able to get prescribed the right eye drops which sorted it right out.

So I guess my advice would be to try to see a private doctor if you have the means? I don't think private GP appointments necessarily have to be crazy expensive?

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Thanks for that. My wife had a quick look for private specialists nearby and found costs of about £100 to £200 for a consultation (though she mentioned the pricing on the sites was confusing so I need to have a look myself when I get over this current cough related headache.

Frustratingly, my work provides me with some private medical cover but it doesn't kick in until Jan 1st.

The second doctor who saw we was actually pretty nice (mentioned he was there from the hospital and was a nose/throat/lung specialist) I just forgot to tell him about the baby headbutt or what his name was so I could try getting back in touch with him.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Kin posted:

It feels like I'm just being put through the deductive process of try x for a while before investigating anything else it could be.

Coughs can be very hard to treat, even for a specialist (cough clinics exist as specialists for the specialists). You're presumably young enough that the GP hasn't decided your prolonged cough is a potential sign of lung cancer and shipped you off to be scanned because the threshold for that is pretty low.

FWIW I've coughed myself silly for months after an infection (not COVID though, that cleared after 3 weeks).

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Yeah coughs can last for weeks on end even if nothing much is wrong.

An unreliable but possible way of getting to see another doctor is to call 111 and tell them everything and tell them your own GP can't see you. You *might* be able to get an out-of-hours appointment with a GP. Maybe.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Z the IVth posted:

Coughs can be very hard to treat, even for a specialist (cough clinics exist as specialists for the specialists). You're presumably young enough that the GP hasn't decided your prolonged cough is a potential sign of lung cancer and shipped you off to be scanned because the threshold for that is pretty low.

FWIW I've coughed myself silly for months after an infection (not COVID though, that cleared after 3 weeks).

Oh, forgot that the second doctor sent me to get a chest xray just to be sure. Should have the results back for those this week.

I'm 39 so dunno if that puts me in the sort of at risk age, but he couldn't hear any blockages in my lungs and my heart sounded fine too so I'm not that worried.

I can sort of tell its the nasal drip that's constantly triggering my coughing, so I'm sure that's spot on (and it's occasionally giving me flu like infections). The bit that I'm wondering about is whether it's being caused by something bacterial, or something physical.

If it's physical then I'd rather know sooner so I can take whatever steps might be necessary such as another xray or even surgery if it's particularity bad. Google says deviated septums are a thing that cause drips, but I'm going down rabbit holes at this point and that's why I'd hoped someone with more knowledge would look at it.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I've coughed since childhood. I kept the whole estate up for a month coughing non-stop all night when I was about 14, let alone my sister with whom I shared a bedroom wanting to brain me (she got her own back a few years later when I was doing shift work and had to get up early and she would roll in from a night out and talk non-stop at me when I needed to sleep).

It's been particularly bad for the past couple of months (negative covid tests!) but for the last 10 days has been much better.
I'm concluding the chronic coughing is possibly reflux as it's worse when I lie down and even more worse if lie on my right side.
I have a deviated nasal septum (as have a lot of people) and think that also contributes in some way. (just read yours above - should have refreshed LOL)
Maybe your baby bent your nose a bit without breaking it? (Caveat: I am not a medical doctor!)

I got some cheapo cough med with guaifenesin in it that's really helped, and also omniprazole for occasional reflux (I get a box of 28 once a year from the GP and just take occasionally esp after pizza).

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Dec 4, 2022

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

The two times I've managed to get GPs to refer me to specialists, it's been by doing a shitload of research and going into the 3rd appointment prepared.

The 1st appointment they'll check it's nothing obvious or dangerous like a stroke or aneurysm, tell you to take ibuprofen or paracetamol, wait 2 weeks and see if it goes away on its own. 2nd appointment they'll do a spread of blood tests to see if anything's wrong.

It's the 3rd appointment where they'll start looking for something unique, and that's when you basically say "I really think it's [x] and I want it confirmed by a consultant."

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Guavanaut posted:

Lots of English people (I bet they're really really from Jutland) deliberately failing to grasp the difference between the two on social media today.

A æ u å æ ø i æ å, æ a.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Yeah seems to be the usual way. "Come back in 2 weeks" is always the first thing... even if you've already waited 2 weeks before seeing a doc, then it might be some tests, then a specialist, then maybe they'll send you to another specialist for some tests, who might then send you to an even more specialised specialist for further examinations and testing... Then apparently it's an endocrinologist to see if you have hormonal imbalances or something (if applicable).

I've got a mate who's dating an Endocrinologist. She says that she's the last one they send people to before sending them to a psychiatrist - i.e. if the endocrinologist can't find anything wrong with you after all those other tests then they assume it's in your head. Of course it may still very well not be.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Kin posted:

Oh, forgot that the second doctor sent me to get a chest xray just to be sure. Should have the results back for those this week.

I'm 39 so dunno if that puts me in the sort of at risk age, but he couldn't hear any blockages in my lungs and my heart sounded fine too so I'm not that worried.

I can sort of tell its the nasal drip that's constantly triggering my coughing, so I'm sure that's spot on (and it's occasionally giving me flu like infections). The bit that I'm wondering about is whether it's being caused by something bacterial, or something physical.

If it's physical then I'd rather know sooner so I can take whatever steps might be necessary such as another xray or even surgery if it's particularity bad. Google says deviated septums are a thing that cause drips, but I'm going down rabbit holes at this point and that's why I'd hoped someone with more knowledge would look at it.

It's unlikely to be infectious this far in unless you have some predisposing risk for infection or you've somehow contracted TB - a chest X-ray would be a standard (ableit not the greatest) screen for the latter.

If you have something physical but non-malignant like a septum then it's more than likely you'll be waiting a long time for treatment as I can see that labelled as "non-urgent". If you have private this is where it'll help.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
.nm just noticed the photoshop

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

WhatEvil posted:

I've got a mate who's dating an Endocrinologist. She says that she's the last one they send people to before sending them to a psychiatrist - i.e. if the endocrinologist can't find anything wrong with you after all those other tests then they assume it's in your head. Of course it may still very well not be.

as someone being treated by a gender clinic, the most surprising part of this story is that there is at least one endocrinologist anywhere in the nhs

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always


https://twitter.com/PhilipProudfoot/status/1599529077530320896

football lads are the vanguard of liberation

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I had a run of respiratory infections in September/October that I think lasted 8 weeks in total, with a more or less full repertoire of cough varieties.
It was one after the other and really annoying.

The problem at the moment is that there are a bunch of different illnesses going around and they all seem to feel different, but realistically most don't either respond to or need treatment beyond OTC stuff.
There's definitely an argument in favour of you knowing your body best - my coughs usually last 2 and a bit weeks, so I'll always wait at least that long to go to a GP - but ultimately we do seem to be in a post-pandemic* phase of viral infections rebounding, so I guess just prepare to be told there's gently caress-all anyone can do about it.

* - citation needed

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Southgate's boys are gonna win the World Cup and everyone will be so proud that Israel agree to free Palestine and Putin pulls out of Ukraine and Rishi says sorry and lets Corbs be in charge and James Corden's late night chat show gets cancelled

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Rarity posted:

Southgate's boys are gonna win the World Cup and everyone will be so proud that Israel agree to free Palestine and Putin pulls out of Ukraine and Rishi says sorry and lets Corbs be in charge and James Corden's late night chat show gets cancelled

Good news on that last one, hes stopping it last time I heard.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

happyhippy posted:

Good news on that last one, hes stopping it last time I heard.

See, it's already working!

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

Angepain posted:

as someone being treated by a gender clinic, the most surprising part of this story is that there is at least one endocrinologist anywhere in the nhs

Try telling your GP you're feeling constantly thirsty and fatigued no matter how many litres of healthy vitamin packed fresh orange juice you drink each day.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Rarity posted:

Southgate's boys are gonna win the World Cup and everyone will be so proud that Israel agree to free Palestine and Putin pulls out of Ukraine and Rishi says sorry and lets Corbs be in charge and James Corden's late night chat show gets cancelled

Or more likely, England win and it leads to a rise of English nationalism, Rishi calls an election to capitalise on the mood & we end up with Nigel Farage as our next Prime Minister

Or much more likely, England shits it on penalties

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Angepain posted:

as someone being treated by a gender clinic, the most surprising part of this story is that there is at least one endocrinologist anywhere in the nhs

Lol actually she lives and works in Switzerland last I knew (and is a Swiss national) so that's still unproven.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Z the IVth posted:

It's unlikely to be infectious this far in unless you have some predisposing risk for infection or you've somehow contracted TB - a chest X-ray would be a standard (ableit not the greatest) screen for the latter.

If you have something physical but non-malignant like a septum then it's more than likely you'll be waiting a long time for treatment as I can see that labelled as "non-urgent". If you have private this is where it'll help.

It's hard to say for sure about greater infection risk. It's anecdotal, but in pretty sure I've always caught what's gone around the office.

Back in my 20s I had bronchitis and tonsillitis and for at least the last decade whenever I laugh a lot I get severe coughing fits (doctor said that's nothing to worry about though). So I've always thought my lungs were a bit rubbish.

I was worried about urgency and waiting months before treatment or whatever. I just don't know how anyone could cope with daily coughing like this for months.

poo poo there's some fits that make me feel like I can't breathe and I can't even do poo poo like climb the stairs without getting breathless.

I think I'm gonna wait for the decent doctor to get back to me about the xrays and then tell him about what happened to my nose.

If he doesn't send me for a second xray or whatever I'll need to go private and hope my works cover is more than just a few private GP sessions.

The other thing I need to consider is that my wife has a pretty bad cough now too, as does my son. They must have caught it from me.

I'm worried now that if my nasal drip basically turns me into a walking bacterial flu machine, then they're just gonna both keep catching what I develop.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Kin posted:

Back in my 20s I had bronchitis and tonsillitis and for at least the last decade whenever I laugh a lot I get severe coughing fits (doctor said that's nothing to worry about though). So I've always thought my lungs were a bit rubbish.

Streamer and Youtubesman Woolie Madden gets that too, so you're not alone there. I don't think he's ever mentioned having lung problems, though.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Hmm. This was massive news at the time:

https://twitter.com/Simon_Whitten/status/1599494126860664832?s=20&t=BD1Vq5fsv-ikc86XSoM3Tw

https://twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1599273414933348352?s=20&t=BD1Vq5fsv-ikc86XSoM3Tw

https://twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1599275400168755200?s=20&t=BD1Vq5fsv-ikc86XSoM3Tw

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
A few years ago I had a case of cellulitis and while taking antibiotics, I developed a dry cough that didn't go away for twelve weeks. I'd wake up feeling that my throat was closed. The first night I slept all the way through till morning I woke up and cried because of how good it felt. That was rough. I did see a doctor about it the first time I woke up unable to breathe, and she checked my chest and said basically everything's fine, it's just one of those things. Possibly a reaction to the penicillin. I didn't stop taking it though because I drat-near had to go to hospital.

anyway yeah coughs are awful, I had to sleep sitting up for months

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Luckily there's no other kids charity that well connected media people close to Mumsnet would want to destroy, so this kind of thing won't happen again

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Guavanaut posted:

You can still call them a Lib Dem.

Steady on!

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Kin posted:

I'm wondering if I can get a bit of advice in how to deal with my GP clinic.

So, back on about Oct 14th I developed a cough that turned into flu symptoms until the 2nd week of Nov. At that point i just had an occasional wheezing cough so I went to the doctor.

I was prescribed antibiotics but by the following week I had full on cold and flu symptoms again so went back to the doctor.

A different one saw me this time (my GP uses an online form and you get the doctor that's available) and told me I have a post nasal drip and should start taking Beaconase nasal spray and ibuprofen.

I've been on that for over a week now and there's no difference, I'm coughing up stuff almost all day and holding a conversation is pretty difficult which is beginning to impact my work (I'm in a client facing role).

Anyway, it occurred to me that my 1 year old headbutted me square on the nose the night before I started coughing. It was so hard my wife heard whatever sound it made but, while it was sore, there wasn't any blood or bruising.

When I wiggle/move my nose now it still hurts in a way internally as if I'd been popped on the nose a few days ago or something.

Anyway, I look it up and Google suggests there could be a link, so I go back to the GP online on Friday and the doctor who replied said: "He didn't think it was related, but he's not sure" and I should just stick with the Beaconase for the next 6 weeks and get back in touch then if I'm still not better (note I don't actually have enough prescribed to me to last 6 weeks).

Sorry for the long winded tale, but should I just persist in getting checked again?

I'm not a medical expert and don't want to waste their time, but I figured any nose pain I'm still feeling almost 7 weeks after the original injury should warrant some concern.

Never mind, if it is related, it'll maybe be another 5 weeks of coughing stuff up on top of the 6 or so weeks I've already been ill.

It feels like I'm just being put through the deductive process of try x for a while before investigating anything else it could be.

It's common for people to develop a cough continuing after viral infections, check out "post viral bronchial hyperreactivity". This is basically the same as asthma, which is what it would be called if it doesn't resolve. See if your GP will try you on a salbutamol inhaler if this sounds like you.

There are also online GPs or if you're in London at least you can see a private one pretty cheaply.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Lol isreali press racing around twitter putting out copyright claims on any piece of footage where someone mentions palestine

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Completely unsurprised. It was pretty clear from the start that this was all an internal BBC battle to discredit Alan Yentob. Naturally the sort of ghouls who run our media and politics don't care about loving up some kids' lives as long as they resolve their personal feuds.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Keith just on GMB. I know he’s loving useless but it boggles my mind that, with the country and the Tories in absolute meltdown, his key policy positions he wanted to talk about were “fiddle a bit with the House of Lords” and “fiddle a bit with local council powers”. That’s his offer to the electorate.

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Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005
CVs and that then.

I've become pretty institutionalised after close to ten years of NHS working and have decided that I would like the option of seeing if the grass is greener elsewhere. Basically I'd like a job with at least some work from home and the ability to do a 9 day fortnight, or some kind of flexibility anyway.

It's been over a decade since I applied for a non NHS job.

How do I make my CV look good? I think there used to be a goon run service that would brush it up for you but I can't remember what they're called. Is LinkedIn still a thing- I've never used it? I'm utter dogshit at interviews as well, which is part of the reason I haven't looked elsewhere. Also have the vague feeling that I don't really know what I'm doing, and someday someone will find that out, but that seems more common than I thought from reading here.

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