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Buck Wildman posted:while trying (and failing) to find one on heresy my group confirmed that an ogryn with a shield can indefinitely safely tank a daemonhost behind their shield. this is probably the easiest way to get the psyker boss solo penance but is also valuable info if anyone needs to take one down for other reasons Out of the two times I took out a daemonhost, that was the way we got one, and kept all four players alive doing it. Ogryn shield worth its weight in gold there.
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For those who didn't get weekly mission credit from a mission, do you remember if you joined a mission in progress or not? I joined a minute in, got all 3 scripts, no progress towards any category at the end. Edit: two missions in a row I join a game in progress, two missions I don't get any credit for weeklies. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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Does the demonhost always attack whoever aggroed it first? can you reliably get rid of one safely by having the shield ogryn attack it on purpose?
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yes, that's exactly how you do it
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Arc Light posted:I'd love to see more environmental variety in future maps, but I wouldn't bet money on it any time soon. I keep getting in-game dialog where one PC comments that they've heard there's a second city on the planet, before being abruptly cut off by the Sergeant Major telling them to stfu and drop the subject. based on how locations are listed and the fact the hub is a spaceship i think there is a good chance of other cities and even other planets in the future stuff is listed like atoma prime > tertium > hab block dreyko (or w/e)
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Funny Darktide baalbuddy video https://youtu.be/DPUEIvfcVhw Why yes I would like to be yelled at to March to my death by a spikey haired commissar with giant bazongas why do you ask?
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I had a match where it took so long to load in that I alt+f4'd and rejoined the game, where there was only 1 other player and 3 bots. Then two other people joined and we had a full 4 with just an extra body who was a bot. I dont even know how you program in letting more people than allowed join. It sucked cause the bot took up one of the teammate healthbars so I just had no clue if one of the human players was close to dying or needed ammo ever
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Scab Trappers be rude af sometimes https://i.imgur.com/beOpRNB.mp4
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:The loner psyker has the best callout panicked screeches. PlassstEEEEllll
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:Does the demonhost always attack whoever aggroed it first? can you reliably get rid of one safely by having the shield ogryn attack it on purpose? Everyone around it will still get cursed slowly but a shield ogryn can sit there forever taking zero damage while the other team members kill it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjIApW5dJvU&t=40s
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Concerning the dialogue/banter talk on the last page I've noticed a decent amount of paired dialogue for the female Agitator Zealot voice and the male psyker with the comical German accent, where I guess the longest one was where the Psyker was corrected the Zealot's "High Gothic" (which seems to be portrayed as a stereotypical "Shakespearean"/King James Bible impression, which seems appropriate) grammar. ¨ Some others as well, though again, having not played the Vermintides I don't have much to compare it to in terms of how much there is, and people probably aren't wrong in pointing out a comparative lack. It might just bemy own selective experience but some of the voices/personalities seem a lot more talkative than others and some seem to engage with certain others more as well.
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I'd like more voice acting in general, but especially from the enemy. Every now and then I hear a mutant say something vague but often it's just growls and *mutant noises*. I'd like a lot more personality showcased from the enemy
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I dig some of the ethical and/or theological debates between PCs, including whether or not abhumans have souls, with the squad's zealot claiming that they don't, the other zealot saying that they are granted souls by the Emperor's grace, and my veteran arguing that it doesn't really matter, and most of the abhumans he's met are better people than the humans. I'd wonder how much of that is absolutely generic class-based dialogue, versus whether there are personality types built by mixing and matching the multiple choice origin story at character creation - ie. my crime was sedition and my history was enlisted with a field promotion, and I've noticed that most of my character's dialogue is either professional military jargon or polite contempt for Imperial dogma.
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Arc Light posted:I dig some of the ethical and/or theological debates between PCs, including whether or not abhumans have souls, with the squad's zealot claiming that they don't, the other zealot saying that they are granted souls by the Emperor's grace, and my veteran arguing that it doesn't really matter, and most of the abhumans he's met are better people than the humans. I'd wonder how much of that is absolutely generic class-based dialogue, versus whether there are personality types built by mixing and matching the multiple choice origin story at character creation - ie. my crime was sedition and my history was enlisted with a field promotion, and I've noticed that most of my character's dialogue is either professional military jargon or polite contempt for Imperial dogma. My Agitator Zealot seems mostly consistent in her character in the dialogue I've heard, super self-righteous, talking aobut the highborn having a divine right to rule and arguing that abhumans can't have souls though through the grace of the Imperium they might be granted citizenship and generally toeing that line, but also with a general trend of not really having a deeper understanding of the dogma she's spouting, which again is in line with lore, "blessed is the mind too small for doubt" and all that. e: the Loner Psyker seems outright hostile against the Imperium and openly criticizes it and Imperial dogma in dialgoue fairly consistently. e2: Agitator Zealot (I assume both male and female, because I think they might have the same lines, even if the performance can be very different) also occasionally will sing, seen it twice, IIRC both times triggered by a comment from another Zealot personality. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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I don’t want to be here and you can’t make me want to be here *screeches*
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They've said the background choices change the likelihoods of certain dialog, but the 3 different personalities are definitely their own separate characters that have different outlooks on everything, and theres even some variation between the genders too, like the female seer being a bit less self absorbed than the male one.
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had an ogryn player get so mad at his two teammates unable to kill a daemonhost while they were being shot at by a swarm of enemies that he suicided after being revived, twice
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I managed to hold max warp charges on my psyker for 9 minutes on the Throneside mission, because there wasn't any egregious forced stoppages like elevators or whatever. Highly recommend if you're going for the penance. Did it from the start of the level up through the bridge defense bit.Ra Ra Rasputin posted:For those who didn't get weekly mission credit from a mission, do you remember if you joined a mission in progress or not? I joined a minute in, got all 3 scripts, no progress towards any category at the end. Yea its certainly joining in progress, which is bogus its not like you can plan to join a mission at the tail end Jerkface fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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At least on easier difficulty it's surprisingly easy dealing with a daemonhost. Just block his first hit of the flurry attack and move/dodge backwards until he finishes his animation. By then your stamina should have regenned and you can block his next flurry-spam
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Managed to kill a daemonhost cause it bugged out after killing the first guy. Targeted me but it just started at me and didn't attack. I stood still while blocking while terrified while the rest of my team killed it
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Saw a 5* mission with the less intense modifier on a whim. We made it but hot drat does everything hit like a truck. Me and another zealot having a flamer did massive work. Flamer best.
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Do y'all just slap every host you run across? Ive played a bunch of malice pubs over the weekend and the few idiot pubs that still attack hosts for no reason we just let die while we continue with the mission. Unless you attack the host it doesn't seem to actually care if someone else aggroes it, it'll just eat that pubbie and gently caress off. Like, just run around. It takes less time, resources and risk.
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Fishstick posted:Do y'all just slap every host you run across? I will stop and type "daemon don't aggro" as soon as I hear one around or see the fog. If someone pulls it I say "rip" and carry on.
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People have been good at avoiding her in most of the malice+ games I’ve run. Lower difficulties not so much. There really needs to be creepy music near her like l4d witches. Those were so spoopy but the daemonhost is just sitting there having a bad trip or whatever.
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Not sure if getting away far enough from a Daemonhost will cause it to dissipate after eating whoever woke it. Tried once using a scene change on Hub Drayko after a pubbie decided to go for the rescue of a respawned teammate that was also being guarded by a Daemonhost: we hosed off into the airlock while it ate the dude, but it just teleported into the next room to intercept us.Real Cool Catfish posted:Me and another zealot having a flamer did massive work. Flamer best. Do flamers also work against (nearby) elites and specialists? Would love to use one for once but well, you know these games, you really are kinda pressured into having something that can take out specials because you don't want to count on your allies to do that constantly lest they slip up.
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toasterwarrior posted:Not sure if getting away far enough from a Daemonhost will cause it to dissipate after eating whoever woke it. Tried once using a scene change on Hub Drayko after a pubbie decided to go for the rescue of a respawned teammate that was also being guarded by a Daemonhost: we hosed off into the airlock while it ate the dude, but it just teleported into the next room to intercept us. Fire cleanses all. Specials just need slightly more cleansing.
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toasterwarrior posted:Do flamers also work against (nearby) elites and specialists? Would love to use one for once but well, you know these games, you really are kinda pressured into having something that can take out specials because you don't want to count on your allies to do that constantly lest they slip up. Flamers will kill elites yeah, they do good damage and will even stun-lock or slow down many of them. What seems to be the deal with the flamer, at least to me, is that it's the type of weapon you have to have a good eye for when to use and when to save for later. If you use it like your main form of attack it's probably gonna be awkward and not feel very good to use or terribly impactful, the primary fire mode of it doesn't seem very useful to me apart from as a quick panic-button thing to set someone on fire for a bit of damage of over time and stagger, and the secondary (well really the main attack as I see it) fire, takes like a second to prepare, but when you pick the right target in the right location, it's a sight to behold. e: I would say lone specials or generaly anyone not standing in a larger group in a clear lane isn't a good target for the flamer. Those guys you will deal with with a melee weapon. If you have the time to prepare the long burst you can still get one with the flamer of course, but it's a bit of a waste compared to using the flamer for what it really excels at which is just deleting and holding back huge groups of enemies. Use it like you're washing a car or the side of a house. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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Kaysette posted:People have been good at avoiding her in most of the malice+ games I’ve run. Lower difficulties not so much. Yeah the witch stuff was so well made in L4D and the daemonhost seems directly inspired by it. They could definitely add more atmospheric stuff like music cues and such Man, L4D was just really really good in general wasn't it
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There's a cool detail with the daemonhost that's alluded to in the badass CGI intro: remember when frost starts forming around the ship while they're doing a warp jump? Your HUD also starts frosting over when you get near a daemonhost.
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boredsatellite posted:what key did you put yours at. mine is middle mouse click A (on my azerty keyboard), middle mouse button to switch between melee and ranged
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im starting to understand the pubbie fatigue in this game. It's not just that pubbies aren't great at the game (myself included) but that attempts to coordinate and talk and play better are often met with silence or outright hostility.
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I swear the toughness bug isn't fixed on Gamepass yet. My veteran getting chunked
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Spuckuk posted:I swear the toughness bug isn't fixed on Gamepass yet. My veteran getting chunked I thought the 'toughness bug' fix meant you now receive more damage on melee.
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The game should probably have a little tooltip saying what it reckons the recommeded levels for the difficulties are.
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Phlegmish posted:A (on my azerty keyboard), middle mouse button to switch between melee and ranged try using Q to switch, found middle mouse scroll to switch to be unreliable
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I've had to rebind my ult and tag buttons to better mimic Apex so I don't lose all my muscle memory for that game lol. Went back to Apex yesterday and I was just constantly panic using my tactical ability trying to switch weapons lol. Also mashing the wrong mouse button trying to ping.
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Turin Turambar posted:I thought the 'toughness bug' fix meant you now receive more damage on melee. That itself was a bug. Before that, toughness had damage break through even when full, albeit very little. That was a design choice. They responded to player complaints by making it so when you have full toughness, the first attack isn't supposed to break through your shield, but when implementing the change, they introduced a bug where having more than 100 toughness meant you got walloped *extra* hard. That has since been fixed (on Steam.)
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toasterwarrior posted:Do flamers also work against (nearby) elites and specialists? Would love to use one for once but well, you know these games, you really are kinda pressured into having something that can take out specials because you don't want to count on your allies to do that constantly lest they slip up. If you try it in the meat grinder you can see the burn damage increases the longer you hold the flame on enemies, ramping up to well over a hundred damage a second, so it happily cooks everything except crushers who have a strong resistance. Damage continues to tick after you stop firing. You can flash fry a reaper without reloading. Tends to stagger everything as well, ragers and maulers won’t reach you before they drop dead. And has a longer range than you’d expect so you can use it for mid range engagements. Love that weapon.
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boredsatellite posted:try using Q to switch, found middle mouse scroll to switch to be unreliable I meant that I clicked the middle mouse button to switch (just like I do in Vermintide 2). I did try scrolling at first, but it is indeed ineffective, half the time I would end up selecting my grenades by accident.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:That itself was a bug. Before that, toughness had damage break through even when full, albeit very little. That was a design choice. They responded to player complaints by making it so when you have full toughness, the first attack isn't supposed to break through your shield, but when implementing the change, they introduced a bug where having more than 100 toughness meant you got walloped *extra* hard. That has since been fixed (on Steam.) Interesting. Can people on Steam and on Gamepass not play together then, if they are at different versions?
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