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Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

The Saucer Hovers posted:

getting better from being a nazi?

If he was spouting national socialism or really just making coherent statements I would call him a nazi. But that isnt what he did in the interview. They had lura loomer (jewish woman) who tried to get clout and we she asked kanye about the jews he started quoting the bible.

Maybe I m infantilizing him, but the playing with a yahoo drink wearing a mask, and just saying "I love hitler, I love jews" just makes me pitty him.

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The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

loving :gas:

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

Ups_rail posted:

If he was spouting national socialism or really just making coherent statements I would call him a nazi. But that isnt what he did in the interview. They had lura loomer (jewish woman) who tried to get clout and we she asked kanye about the jews he started quoting the bible.

Maybe I m infantilizing him, but the playing with a yahoo drink wearing a mask, and just saying "I love hitler, I love jews" just makes me pitty him.

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿

Ups_rail posted:

If he was spouting national socialism or really just making coherent statements I would call him a nazi. But that isnt what he did in the interview. They had lura loomer (jewish woman) who tried to get clout and we she asked kanye about the jews he started quoting the bible.

Maybe I m infantilizing him, but the playing with a yahoo drink wearing a mask, and just saying "I love hitler, I love jews" just makes me pitty him.

I dont pity people who think the world is run by a pedophile Jewish cabal, and have been praising Hitler for at least 4 years

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
This is all viral marketing for the new Jokin' Phoenix movie. You guys are so gullible.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Ups_rail posted:

If he was spouting national socialism or really just making coherent statements I would call him a nazi. But that isnt what he did in the interview. They had lura loomer (jewish woman) who tried to get clout and we she asked kanye about the jews he started quoting the bible.

Maybe I m infantilizing him, but the playing with a yahoo drink wearing a mask, and just saying "I love hitler, I love jews" just makes me pitty him.

Just a big silly baby screaming “I love Hitler”

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.
I wish Doug Stanhope's Celebrity Death Pool was still running, I'd put money down on ye for 2024

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
I wonder what Ye thinks about the Living God Jesus Christ being a Jew :thunk:

has Ye or any other antisemite "Christian" made a coherent statement publicly on that fact ever?

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Ups_rail posted:

If he was spouting national socialism or really just making coherent statements I would call him a nazi. But that isnt what he did in the interview. They had lura loomer (jewish woman) who tried to get clout and we she asked kanye about the jews he started quoting the bible.

Maybe I m infantilizing him, but the playing with a yahoo drink wearing a mask, and just saying "I love hitler, I love jews" just makes me pitty him.

He has been spouting plenty of national socialism, though

Huskalator
Mar 17, 2009

Proud fascist
anti-anti-fascist

Elias_Maluco posted:

He has been spouting plenty of national socialism, though

What national socialist ideals has Kanye espoused?

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Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


I would really describe Ye as a Christian Nationalist, since that's what Fuentes identifies as.

erosion
Dec 21, 2002

It's true and I'm tired of pretending it isn't
Ah yes, it's the old "No True Nazi" bit.

"Sure he's wearing a swastika armband and discussing his desire to exterminate the Jews, but he isn't actually paying dues to the Nazi party, so I think he's just confused!"

That bullshit shouldn't fly here, and I hope none of you fall for it.

Hunter Biden
Feb 24, 2022

Ups_rail posted:

If he was spouting national socialism or really just making coherent statements I would call him a nazi. But that isnt what he did in the interview. They had lura loomer (jewish woman) who tried to get clout and we she asked kanye about the jews he started quoting the bible.

Maybe I m infantilizing him, but the playing with a yahoo drink wearing a mask, and just saying "I love hitler, I love jews" just makes me pitty him.

I struggle with this. I grew up around a lot of mental illness and criminality and it’s hard for me to ever see an individual as genuinely in control of themselves. Kanye should get knocked out, but I can also feel sympathy for the man.

Also any genuine feeling I can muster at this point would be directed at Nick.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

Huskalator posted:

What national socialist ideals has Kanye espoused?

post/red text combo

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

I think that people have a hard time squaring away the fact that Kanye West, a black super famous musician, is now a Nazi. I think we try to make up reasons in our head about how he couldn't possibly be a Nazi or that he's been brainwashed or whatever. Ye is an unrepentant Nazi and it's been a very strange year indeed.

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

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Huskalator posted:

What national socialist ideals has Kanye espoused?

Why do you people keep doing this here

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr
Well he didn't literally say "I AM A NATIONAL SOCIALIST AKA NAZI", therefore who can really judge.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Buschmaki posted:

Why do you people keep doing this here

Look at his rap sheet. He has repeated probes for trolling.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Tarkus posted:

I think that people have a hard time squaring away the fact that Kanye West, a black super famous musician, is now a Nazi. I think we try to make up reasons in our head about how he couldn't possibly be a Nazi or that he's been brainwashed or whatever. Ye is an unrepentant Nazi and it's been a very strange year indeed.

Appatently by most accounts he's been an unrepentant Nazi for a while, everyone just ignored it.

Not going to lie, always thought the dude was a pompous big piece of poo poo, but Nazi wasn't really something I considered.

woke kaczynski
Jan 23, 2015

How do you do, fellow antifa?



Fun Shoe
I might feel differently if he were some random dude on the street but he's got more resources to help him manage and live with his mental illness than almost anyone else in human history, and instead here he is being a Nazi

And that's even giving the most generous benefit of the doubt that the Nazism is 100% fueled by mania

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

If only Kanye opened up Das Capital volume 1-3. Then this thread would be about his socialist revolution.

Nae
Sep 3, 2020

what.

The most hosed up thing about all of this is realizing that Kanye's Workout Plan was actually 100% serious

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

If only Kanye opened up Das Capital volume 1-3. Then this thread would be about his socialist revolution.

we need the people's champ Paul Wall to become an outspoken marxist and bring balance to hip-hop

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

lol this thread is so good

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Kanye's new Christian album just dropped ', mein kampf volume 2 '

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Buschmaki posted:

He made Graduation.

But he was a much more media trained nazi back then.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Huskalator posted:

What national socialist ideals has Kanye espoused?

He denied the holocaust, he says jews control the world, he blames jews for random deaths

That seems national-socialistic enough for me, but Im no specialist

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





Buschmaki posted:

He made Graduation.

No he didn't.

Revising history is fun.

DJ Troomp wrote most of Graduation but Ye took all the credit

Nae
Sep 3, 2020

what.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Kanye's new Christian album just dropped ', mein kampf volume 2 '

I read that as Christmas album and I'm not sure if that's better or worse

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

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sure okay posted:

No he didn't.

Revising history is fun.

DJ Troomp wrote most of Graduation but Ye took all the credit

He made "Heard 'Em Say" featuring Adam Levine.

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿
Nothing's ever promised tomorrow~ today~

And nothing lasts forever but be honest, babe~

It hurts but it may be the only way

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

sure okay posted:

No he didn't.

Revising history is fun.

DJ Troomp wrote most of Graduation but Ye took all the credit

sure okay

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

sure okay posted:

No he didn't.

Revising history is fun.

DJ Troomp wrote most of Graduation but Ye took all the credit

Donald J Troomp wrote his loving album? The clues were always there

Zeniel
Oct 18, 2013
History is written by the victors!
Says man who spouts the throughline rhetoric of a defeated state.

Kanye has always seemed to me to be an intensely stupid man, made so by his own self aggrandizement.

Like I remember the comedian Ramesh Ranganathan talking about going to see Kanye in concert and mentioning how the show had a giant ufo setpiece that came down and spoke about how Kanye was cleverest most wonderful boy in the world gifted to the human race. Like real North Korean dictator vibes.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I saw Kanye at Rutgersfest in 2004 and didn't know who he was.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
This is so loving bizarre, where is his new interview at / with

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Dick Bastardly posted:

I wonder what Ye thinks about the Living God Jesus Christ being a Jew :thunk:

has Ye or any other antisemite "Christian" made a coherent statement publicly on that fact ever?

Only about a trillion times. There are a number of antisemitic counters to this line of reasoning, but the basic idea is, “God sent his son to reform the Jews’ corrupt religion and they murdered him for it, those ungrateful media/banking/music moguls!”

It is not as easy to checkmate ideologues with Facts and Logic as you might assume.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
"History is written by the victors" is a phrase that annoys me to an unreasonable degree.

History is written by the people who can write. For much of history, literacy is afforded only to a select few and written history is shaped by the motives of those who were recording it. Those social classes don't just vanish after conquest! Administrators, clerics, merchants – those would stick around when the Lord/King/Emperor got replaced.

And even now, the interpretation and recording of history happens in classes that don't map to who wins or loses wars!

Grrrr.

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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Nae posted:

I read that as Christmas album and I'm not sure if that's better or worse

That is far funnier than what I posted.

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