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Doctor Butts posted:Who can afford it That all depends on the society we live in at the time. But yeah, not likely to be too different from the one we're in now. e: What a dumb nerd snipe
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love to fire all my janitorial staff and then let the computer touchers live in the building 24/7
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Eugenics is the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarded as desirable. Transhumanism does absolutely nothing to arrange reproduction towards desirable heritable characteristics. In fact, it does the exact opposite, giving people option to artificially enhance undesirable characteristics, preserving their existing ones.
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Dec 6, 2022 21:17
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Jelly posted:I guess I am still not following the problem with improving ourselves artificially just because we can, or I'm missing another point you're making. Rich people will get augmented and poor people won't.
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Dec 6, 2022 21:20
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Doctor Butts posted:Who can afford it My health insurance is augmented
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PITY BONER posted:Is anyone else's twitter feed getting chud recommendations now? I have a lost account for which I forgot the password and and no longer use, but still get emails with recent activity feeds in it. I've unsubscribed from this a couple times but it never stops coming. Lately it has been a poo poo load of anti-trans stuff and republican official accounts screeching about Hunter Biden's 15 pound hog. Previously the only anti Trans stuff I would see regularly was the occasional odd comment attached to something else.
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Dec 6, 2022 21:23
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Look if I loose an arm and get a cool fancy robotic arm you can bet I'm going to paint hazard stripes on it.
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Jelly posted:we'll assume the brain and heart remain human/untouched. I always knew people with pacemakers didn't have souls
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Jelly posted:I guess I am still not following the problem with improving ourselves artificially just because we can, or I'm missing another point you're making. quote:Eugenics is the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarded as desirable. Yeah, you're right; never mind. I think I was mixing up transhumanism with other bizarre SV beliefs.
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Dec 6, 2022 21:26
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these people should accept their mortality and try to stop being massive c...
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cack-faced cunnies, in this world imo
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Jelly posted:
It's ok I almost posted a dumb neuralink porn joke
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CuwiKhons posted:Also the Greeks believed small dicks were better if you were trying to get a woman pregnant because "the semen has less distance to travel from the penis to the vagina," so they obviously they weren't super geniuses. Yeah that's dumb as gently caress, you want a good penis length so the sperm can generate enough muzzle velocity to have good penetrative powers and what's more have it be in proportion to diameter to ensure even big loads get sufficient muzzle velocity. I would recommend a length of at least 56 times penis diameter, maybe even 71 for serious fuckin'.
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Thou shalt not smash the back walls.
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I have +p sperm
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Flowers for QAnon posted:How do you feel about getting a tail installed? Roger Dean (of Yes album cover fame) was once asked if there was a chair he'd like to design, but was outside of the realm of the possible. He responded that he hadn't yet figured out a way to extend the spine (as chair). See, this motherfucker is running over people, killing untold quantities of apes, and trying to become King of Mars when we could all be sitting on spine chairs. Truly, the worst timeline.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I'm concerned that it could easily transform from "we can help people with disabilities" to "we can augment perfectly good joints to eliminate the possibility that anyone other than what we consider to be 'perfect' humans can exist". probably, but what's the other solution. we just....don't help people? let's do the thing and then plan for this problem ahead of time-ahahahaha wait i'm talking about people. we'll do it and let it hit us straight in the face first. still a better situation than this hellworld of no medical care and ableism!
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Yeah that's dumb as gently caress, you want a good penis length so the sperm can generate enough muzzle velocity to have good penetrative powers and what's more have it be in proportion to diameter to ensure even big loads get sufficient muzzle velocity. I would recommend a length of at least 56 times penis diameter, maybe even 71 for serious fuckin'. I built a special sounding tool that can introduce some rifling
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If I had to guess, the worry with trans-humanism is that it can come across as optimistic to the point of naivety. Whereas the cyberpunk genre posits that 'people are people, and will invariably turn life-changing technology to lovely ends', transhumanism tends to just go "nah don't worry about it, this'll be different!  'But that is just my take.
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dreamin' about having the crappy joints in my body replaced, and this guy is over here like, yes, but what if - too many joints were replaced?? *twilight zone theme*
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StrangersInTheNight posted:probably, but what's the other solution. we just....don't help people? let's do the thing and then plan for this problem ahead of time-ahahahaha wait i'm talking about people. we'll do it and let it hit us straight in the face first. still a better situation than this hellworld of no medical care and ableism! SirPhoebos posted:If I had to guess, the worry with trans-humanism is that it can come across as optimistic to the point of naivety. Whereas the cyberpunk genre posits that 'people are people, and will invariably turn life-changing technology to lovely ends', transhumanism tends to just go "nah don't worry about it, this'll be different! Jelly is right that I was conflating a few things, so I take back the eugenics comments. But the latter comment provides an answer to the former. I think transhumanism is an easy solution to systemic problems. If we had cybernetic implants tomorrow, we'd still be beset with homelessness, poverty and hunger, just with "superhumans". If we want a better society, we should first address those problems directly rather than relying on technology to be a magic bullet that automatically serves all the other problems.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:dreamin' about having the crappy joints in my body replaced, and this guy is over here like, yes, but what if - too many joints were replaced?? *twilight zone theme* That's restoring a regular human ability that has been lost and we've been doing that for thousands of years, e.g. wooden teeth and peg legs Augmentation is different, it's about super-human abilities like installing an artificial rear end with a rocket engine or a machine gun arm
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what about those people who get artificial asses but just silicone
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Jelly posted:Eugenics is the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarded as desirable. One of the big talking points in the disability community right now is "am I disabled because I only have one leg or am I disabled because this building has no lifts/elevators" and the people leading the charge on this are young adults with Down syndrome - these young people are absolutely something else, and it's because of them we are seeing the rise of venues for disabled people only, like youth and night clubs, which are run and owned by disabled people themselves. This is deeply unpopular on twitter, the right hate it because they are terrible people who want control, and a lot of idiot kids hate it because they don't like being told that "allies" are not welcome in these safe spaces.
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An artificial rear end with a machine gun arm sounds good to me where do I sign up
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If rich people end up artificially resillient to disease, longer lived, stronger, and smarter than baseline humans, how does that not effect human genetics going forward? It doesn't have to be direct genetic manipulation to cause a selection pressure.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:If rich people end up artificially resillient to disease, longer lived, stronger, and smarter than baseline humans, how does that not effect human genetics going forward? It doesn't have to be direct genetic manipulation to cause a selection pressure. With the exception of Musk, rich people don't tend to have a lot of children. Fertility correlates with poverty
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Brendan Rodgers posted:If rich people end up artificially resillient to disease, longer lived, stronger, and smarter than baseline humans, how does that not effect human genetics going forward? It doesn't have to be direct genetic manipulation to cause a selection pressure. Happily we already know exactly what will happem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7X01_j_oDA
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crispix posted:what about those people who get artificial asses but just silicone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOw-jplSMk
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Jelly is right that I was conflating a few things, so I take back the eugenics comments. I don't believe anyone besides dipshits like Musk are preaching that. For most, implants and poo poo like that are about returning QOL and dignity to people suffering. And that is something that should be up there in the top priorities, as part of healthcare. Brendan Rodgers posted:If rich people end up artificially resillient to disease, longer lived, stronger, and smarter than baseline humans, how does that not effect human genetics going forward? It doesn't have to be direct genetic manipulation to cause a selection pressure. Rich people are already generally healthier, it's not really an if. Money gets you better healthcare and better education (that addresses many healthcare problems before they actually become problems).
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Kingo Ligma posted:I always knew people with pacemakers didn't have souls ...my dad became a conservative after getting a pace maker.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Rich people will get augmented and poor people won't. this is a reason to be anti-capitalist, not anti-transhumanist I think it's fine to dismiss a lot of the tech-bros who talk about transhumanism while still being pretty chuddy, just like you can dismiss a crypto-bro who takes game about effective altruism while stealing from people. But idiots who pay lip service to a philosophy without following the principles aren't an indictment of the philosophy itself. Like, Elon is anti-trans. You can't be anti-trangender and a transhumanist at the same time without being a giant idiot hypocrite.
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What I really want is an extra arm or two it'd come in handy.
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Any news on the wunderkind programmer who is going to fix search in a single line of Javascript?
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Ultra posted:Any news on the wunderkind programmer who is going to fix search in a single line of Javascript? yeah it's actually me - have a look at what i've got so far! code:
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Ultra posted:Any news on the wunderkind programmer who is going to fix search in a single line of Javascript? Right after Twitter Blue, arriving November 29.
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SirPhoebos posted:If I had to guess, the worry with trans-humanism is that it can come across as optimistic to the point of naivety. Whereas the cyberpunk genre posits that 'people are people, and will invariably turn life-changing technology to lovely ends', transhumanism tends to just go "nah don't worry about it, this'll be different! It introduces the potential for new hierarchies of capability that are gated behind wealth\debt into a highly competitive system that is already weighed down by inequality. Earlier in the thread I mentioned wanting Lasik, but I don't need it to see my screen and perform my job since my (comparatively cheap) glasses replicate adequate vision; imagine if there were brain implants that turned people in my field into human computers, functionally making me complete dogshit at my job in comparison unless I spent what I imagine would be a staggering amount of money to get the procedure and maintain parity. Maybe without the implant I'd still be able to find work, but it would be worse work for less pay than I receive now. I think transhumanism is a little scary at this point in our history because our economy presents extreme precarity in the lives of its workers as a desirable driver of innovation, competition, and lower overhead for the employer. Everything I know about how our extravagantly capitalist society operates would have to fundamentally change for me to not expect a worsening of conditions to arise from common transhumanist promises breeching into reality. The idea of exciting new fixes for common problems or aesthetic procedures don't really bother me, because they would just get added to the ever-growing pile of things I can't afford. It's when you start talking about theoretical improvements to baseline humanness that I begin squirming.
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What I love about this "Elon Musk running Twitter" saga is how conveniently every 24 hours there's a new major tweet or news coverage that dents his reputation even more.
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Klyith posted:this is a reason to be anti-capitalist I am. Gros Tarla posted:Rich people are already generally healthier, it's not really an if. Money gets you better healthcare and better education (that addresses many healthcare problems before they actually become problems). Well yeah, if you're someone who can't even see a doctor for something basic, which is billions of humans probably, what the gently caress good is something like cancer research to you? That's exactly what I'm saying. Now imagine if the rich are living for hundreds of years and have capabilities far beyond our own baseline to the point where they aren't just a separate social class, but essentially a post-human species. These things aren't inherently bad. But they are going to be used badly. We can't even do something like manufacture clothes without it being a global hellscape of human misery and exploitation.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:These things aren't inherently bad. But they are going to be used badly. We can't even do something like manufacture clothes without it being a global hellscape of human misery and exploitation. This is where I'm at as well. Whether it's an indictment of transhumanism as a philosophy or not, we can't put transhumanism into practice until at a minimum we've mastered the practice of humanism.
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