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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I'm not certain those tweets are serious/bots? I mean if they were a disinformation bot why would they reply to the message they're copying. That's like me trying to steal someone's invention by referencing their original patent, a bit self defeating

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Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
It's not meant to make any sense. It's meant to plant daft ideas in the already-confused and overwhelmed, and bore and annoy those who have seen the matrix code so we *coff* sorryImeanthey tune it out.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Microplastics posted:

I'm not certain those tweets are serious/bots? I mean if they were a disinformation bot why would they reply to the message they're copying. That's like me trying to steal someone's invention by referencing their original patent, a bit self defeating

Because they get paid to do whatever theyre told verbatim.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The cost of sending a stupid tweet is so low as to mean it doesn't matter, you fill the channels with noise and maybe some of it hits, but the noise itself is worthwhile.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

The last one, the one replying to Dolores, is a very confused old person who doesn't get how replying to things on the online works. They've copied the whole text of what they're replying to to call it bullshit. Like if I did this


I'm not certain those tweets are serious/bots? I mean if they were a disinformation bot why would they reply to the message they're copying. That's like me trying to steal someone's invention by referencing their original patent, a bit self defeating. I disagree!

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
Disinfo/spam accounts are often semi-automated- bunch of bot accounts posting bullshit on auto, but the replies are monitored and if there is some interaction it will be flagged and the handler can step in as required

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

smellmycheese posted:

This, very clearly, is Jeremy Corbyns fault…



I mean sure, why not, who gives a poo poo, what even are words anyway

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

smellmycheese posted:

This, very clearly, is Jeremy Corbyns fault…



This reads like:

“My Son has just told me he is moving to Canada* and I’m looking for someone to blame”


*to get away from me

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

kids these days and their degrees in gender and woke feelings, they need real jobs like "parliamentary sketchwriter"

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

The Tories have hosed things up so much they’ve managed to break the brains of the commentariat. All thrashing around wildly to come up with some explanation for why their beloved hard right establishment project has turned into a giant bucket of poo poo.

Brilladelphia
Jun 26, 2012

SixFigureSandwich posted:

Mine went to 209 and I live in a badly insulated house from the 70s. How'd you get to that level?

Step one: have a poorly insulated electric-only house from the eighties and so have higher bills by default anyway
Step two: have your energy company forecast that you'll use four times as much electricity in the second half of the billing year as the first and adjust your direct debit accordingly

I was expecting our usage to about double over the winter, hoping that with a call I can get it down to a more reasonable (all things considered) level as what they've done is absurd, who can afford that?!

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

smellmycheese posted:

The Tories have hosed things up so much they’ve managed to break the brains of the commentariat. All thrashing around wildly to come up with some explanation for why their beloved hard right establishment project has turned into a giant bucket of poo poo.

glitching out like the really lovely markov chain generators that they actually are

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

smellmycheese posted:

This, very clearly, is Jeremy Corbyns fault…


Scrap inheritance entirely, aside from a £500 allowance for heirlooms. Everything returns to the state.

Same for trusts, gifts, etc.

This now provides enough money to run the state without any of that socialist income tax or socialist national insurance or socialist VAT. Country saved.

As for the obvious issue of national treasures and hereditary offices, crush the Koh-i-Nur in a big hydraulic press and replace every hereditary office with a reaction gif of charles and modi and kirill watching it slowly splinter while a 70s sitcom laugh track plays.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is the logical end result of not really understanding any of the things they talk about and simply referring to everything they don't like via a collection of interchangeable snarl words.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Maggie, Maggie, orra whyi deed ye diie?
Sobs they sighdid at Corbain's chrissormiss wokes

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Unsure if markov chain post or burns poetry.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
To the continuation of that celebration until Daniel Hannan's extermination!

James Joyce, putter of words in some kinds of orders

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He was a lot more coherent writing about his wife's arse.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

OwlFancier posted:

He was a lot more coherent writing about his wife's arse.

Note - do not ever try to use those words as an opener on Tinder

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Brilladelphia posted:

Step one: have a poorly insulated electric-only house from the eighties and so have higher bills by default anyway
Step two: have your energy company forecast that you'll use four times as much electricity in the second half of the billing year as the first and adjust your direct debit accordingly

I was expecting our usage to about double over the winter, hoping that with a call I can get it down to a more reasonable (all things considered) level as what they've done is absurd, who can afford that?!

EDF has an option to reduce your DD on their site, look into that if you haven't already. You can select the option that your energy usage has changed or that you can't afford it.

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

Brilladelphia posted:

Step one: have a poorly insulated electric-only house from the eighties and so have higher bills by default anyway
Step two: have your energy company forecast that you'll use four times as much electricity in the second half of the billing year as the first and adjust your direct debit accordingly

I was expecting our usage to about double over the winter, hoping that with a call I can get it down to a more reasonable (all things considered) level as what they've done is absurd, who can afford that?!

Can't you just change to getting bills from your meter readings at the end of the month and pay it like that?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
It was mentioned earlier in the thread that you can just not consent to DD increases, so let them know that and just wait for your account to be in debit so you know what you actually owe (and can pay accordingly)

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Re: lights - have our normal ones up in Sheerness, and they had the standard lantern parade, Santas, Christmas market, and some circus type acts on Saturday

We don't have a tree because we have a clock tower instead.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Well poo poo. Just got told that a medicine I need to take twice daily is ‘out of stock nationwide’ due to ‘supply issues’. I have about three days supply left.

This going to loving suck

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Guavanaut posted:

Scrap inheritance entirely, aside from a £500 allowance for heirlooms. Everything returns to the state.

Same for trusts, gifts, etc.

This now provides enough money to run the state without any of that socialist income tax or socialist national insurance or socialist VAT. Country saved.

As for the obvious issue of national treasures and hereditary offices, crush the Koh-i-Nur in a big hydraulic press and replace every hereditary office with a reaction gif of charles and modi and kirill watching it slowly splinter while a 70s sitcom laugh track plays.

I dunno, I could see this leading to the rich just blowing their fortunes entirely in their old age since they won't get to pass it on, decreasing the income to the state. I'm in favour of a very high inheritance tax, percentage based, in order to encourage them to keep their money so their kids can inherit it, but also increase the revenue to the state.

Of course, increasing the state's revenue means we'll blow it on more aircraft carriers instead of a functioning country but swings and roundabouts innit

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

Gort posted:

I dunno, I could see this leading to the rich just blowing their fortunes entirely in their old age since they won't get to pass it on, decreasing the income to the state.

Sounds like an improvement on :smaug:

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Or the only people that end up paying inheritance tax are the people that currently don't, whilst anyone rich passes it on through other means.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Absolutely, that's still money being spent on the economy as opposed to being hoarded.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Camrath posted:

Well poo poo. Just got told that a medicine I need to take twice daily is ‘out of stock nationwide’ due to ‘supply issues’. I have about three days supply left.

This going to loving suck

loving hell, are you ok?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
My bolding - because as we all know govt/big company reassurances are 100% reliable. Not.

[quote]
Ministers quietly announced in October it would begin collecting and processing personal information from people’s smart and traditional meters.

Experts say it sets a ‘dangerous precedent’ and will affect smart meter customers more because their devices contain more sensitive data.

When smart meters first arrived, some feared they would hold too much information on households as they track energy usage in real time.

Experts warn this could leave homes vulnerable to burglars if they managed to hack the gadget and work out from readings when nobody was in.

But customers were assured the data could only be viewed by their supplier.

The introduction of the Energy Bills Support Scheme and Energy Price Guarantee means that information will now be shared with the Government.

The first scheme gives customers £66 a month in winter to help with bills, while the guarantee, brought in by former prime minister Liz Truss, caps average energy bills at £2,500.

Ministers want to use meter data to help identify fraudsters, such as those who claim energy bills support on an unused second property, for example.

[quote]

source: heil/money/bills/article-11508569/Privacy-row-Governments-energy-support-scheme-data-sweep.html

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Camrath posted:

Well poo poo. Just got told that a medicine I need to take twice daily is ‘out of stock nationwide’ due to ‘supply issues’. I have about three days supply left.

This going to loving suck

Christ, have they proposed any alternative medication that could alleviate the worst of it?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
There is another thing, poor people don't have anything left to hand down because these tory run nursing homes deliberately bleed them dry.

My nan was a dinner lady and had a living will in her early 80s, which was good because she lived to 95 and for the level of care she needed at that age the nursing home would have had every penny she owned if she hadn't given it all away to her great grandchildren. Everyone else got cut out because she didn't trust her children not to spend it on "fancy holidays" and knew her grandchildren would understand.

Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005

Camrath posted:

Well poo poo. Just got told that a medicine I need to take twice daily is ‘out of stock nationwide’ due to ‘supply issues’. I have about three days supply left.

This going to loving suck

What is it and which pharmacy is it ? (Not the address, just the company).

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Convex posted:

loving hell, are you ok?

I’ve got enough to taper down, but given it’s already an incredibly stressful time and it’s an antidepressant (the first I’ve found that really works for me), yeah.

Gonzo McFee posted:

Christ, have they proposed any alternative medication that could alleviate the worst of it?

My doc has written to my psychiatrist, but it’ll take time.

Gambrinus posted:

What is it and which pharmacy is it ? (Not the address, just the company).

Bupropion- and the message came from my GP.

I’m lucky enough to now have a bloody brilliant local medical practice who are super easy to deal with, so it’s not quite as scary as when I lived in London.. but still.

In extremism I can probably get some shipped in from overseas but holy poo poo is that expensive.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Bupropion, that's a very rare one in the UK - I didn't even realise you can get it on the NHS (maybe you got it privately though?)

I hope someone comes through for you. For what it's worth - and I know it's scant comfort - I'm pretty sure NDRIs don't have nearly as bad withdrawal symptoms as SSRIs or SNRIs. If worst comes to worst, you're going to lose the antidepressant effect (obviously) but you shouldn't be too uncomfortable

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Barry Foster posted:

Bupropion, that's a very rare one in the UK - I didn't even realise you can get it on the NHS (maybe you got it privately though?)

I hope someone comes through for you. For what it's worth - and I know it's scant comfort - I'm pretty sure NDRIs don't have nearly as bad withdrawal symptoms as SSRIs or SNRIs. If worst comes to worst, you're going to lose the antidepressant effect (obviously) but you shouldn't be too uncomfortable

Initially prescribed privately, then through share-care or whatever it’s called from my local gp.

My London gp was loving awful to deal with and flat out lied to me several times about prescribing it. Moved up here, explained the situation and was told ‘We need to figure out how to do this, but we’ll find a way’ and had the repeat script three days later.

And tbh it’s the antidepressant effect I’m scared about losing- i’ve used sooo many other drugs that just didn’t work (probably because my issue is with noradrenaline or dopamine, not seratonin). And life is stressful as gently caress atm- I’ve been working solidly since mid October with one weekend off the whole time (done a /lot/ of trade and my best month ever, but still broke..), things are stressed in my marriage and Christmas is coming up which always pushes my stress levels through the roof.

Bah, I’ll stop whining. Thanks for listening folks.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Camrath posted:

Initially prescribed privately, then through share-care or whatever it’s called from my local gp.

My London gp was loving awful to deal with and flat out lied to me several times about prescribing it. Moved up here, explained the situation and was told ‘We need to figure out how to do this, but we’ll find a way’ and had the repeat script three days later.

And tbh it’s the antidepressant effect I’m scared about losing- i’ve used sooo many other drugs that just didn’t work (probably because my issue is with noradrenaline or dopamine, not seratonin). And life is stressful as gently caress atm- I’ve been working solidly since mid October with one weekend off the whole time (done a /lot/ of trade and my best month ever, but still broke..), things are stressed in my marriage and Christmas is coming up which always pushes my stress levels through the roof.

Bah, I’ll stop whining. Thanks for listening folks.

You're not whining. If it was someone else going through this/talking about this you wouldn't say they were whining, right? Mind that negative self-talk!

But anyway, I hope it works out one way or another, mate.

If you do have to buy it from abroad then consider the fund

Brilladelphia
Jun 26, 2012

SixFigureSandwich posted:

EDF has an option to reduce your DD on their site, look into that if you haven't already. You can select the option that your energy usage has changed or that you can't afford it.

Many thanks, they cunningly hid this option behind a big red link saying "increase payments now" so I didn't see it before as why the hell would I click that? Unfortunately they'll only let me decrease it to £565 a month so I'm still going to have to phone them, but cheers anyway!

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Microplastics posted:

I'm not certain those tweets are serious/bots? I mean if they were a disinformation bot why would they reply to the message they're copying. That's like me trying to steal someone's invention by referencing their original patent, a bit self defeating

Have you seen the anti-Iran bots going off and on random threads in Africa?

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namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

escapegoat posted:

Got a union related query for you all.

Due to a change of ownership at my job earlier this year and the union that I and my colleagues were in seeming pretty wishy-washy, I took the precaution of joining two additional unions. Seemed a good idea at the time, but now I have an ongoing issue regarding unpaid overtime and I'm not sure how to approach things. I intend to ask all unions for help, after all I'm paying for them; should I tell them I have two other unions on the case or not? Will they be bothered that I'm in multiple unions?

On a related note, what recourse is there for getting back unpaid wages after leaving a job?

If you're paying into the unions it's fine going to get advice from all of them, the issue will be if they give you differing advice as ignoring what they tell you in favour of other advice is allowed but obviously annoying for them.

The best union will be the one that has the biggest presence at your work, even if generally they seem poor. They'll have the most impact and most likely to have a rep at your work to help you.

Unpaid time all depends on the quality of documentation but I think it's more trouble getting it after payroll is told you're no longer working there as your contract as ended and so future payments require more work on their end. With sufficient paperwork you can still show you're owed the money but it's a case of getting it out of them.

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