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TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the postal workers, rail workers, nurses, university staff, and teachers who are wrong.

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Mebh
May 10, 2010


The "CEO Class" genuinely do think that though.

Utter arseholes.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Everybody wants to know your personal details these days. I bought two short shovels at Tool Station and they wanted to know my name and address in case I wanted to "return the spades." That's why I have the receipt. All I need is some company sending me advertisements for shovels.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

bessantj posted:

Everybody wants to know your personal details these days. I bought two short shovels at Tool Station and they wanted to know my name and address in case I wanted to "return the spades." That's why I have the receipt. All I need is some company sending me advertisements for shovels.

Toolstation and Screwfix aren't really like normal shops. Very online and accounty. You can almost feel them squirm with discomfort if you try and buy something without having an account.

Salisbury Snape
May 26, 2014
While a grain platform can be used for corn, a specialized corn head is ordinarily used instead.


Enjoy the monthly Toolstation and screwfix 'deals and offers' letters through the post that you can't seem to unsubscribe from

Mebh
May 10, 2010


bessantj posted:

Everybody wants to know your personal details these days. I bought two short shovels at Tool Station and they wanted to know my name and address in case I wanted to "return the spades." That's why I have the receipt. All I need is some company sending me advertisements for shovels.

Its about long term re-engagement. Most businesses are about managing a subscription count and ins vs out. Returning users from a large inactive pool is one of the cheapest ways to generate growth.

One of the big problems is when you do something new and want to tell your customers "hey, bob's donkey semen emporium has a new Conservative only vip lane, discounts for returning customers! Refer a friend!"

How do you best tell everyone? A user account has an incredibly short lifetime, a mobile number on average is a few years. Email is ~10 years. Real addresses are super valuable and you can get a reliable number of returns even today.

So naturally you can pay a harvesting company to get a load of contacts. Same if you need money. You can sell yours!

Yay ca

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm glad that the Labour press teams are finding ways of making kieth look more well rounded and three dimensional.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I've got a Toolstation trade account that gets you a month credit and 5% off everything. Just needed to send them a piece of company name headed paper.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


NotJustANumber99 posted:

Toolstation and Screwfix aren't really like normal shops. Very online and accounty. You can almost feel them squirm with discomfort if you try and buy something without having an account.

Salisbury Snape posted:

Enjoy the monthly Toolstation and screwfix 'deals and offers' letters through the post that you can't seem to unsubscribe from

Oh I told them they didn't need that information and to just hand me my receipt, politely I wasn't an arsehole. To be fair the guy serving me just handed over the receipt with no fuss.

Mebh posted:

Its about long term re-engagement. Most businesses are about managing a subscription count and ins vs out. Returning users from a large inactive pool is one of the cheapest ways to generate growth.

One of the big problems is when you do something new and want to tell your customers "hey, bob's donkey semen emporium has a new Conservative only vip lane, discounts for returning customers! Refer a friend!"

How do you best tell everyone? A user account has an incredibly short lifetime, a mobile number on average is a few years. Email is ~10 years. Real addresses are super valuable and you can get a reliable number of returns even today.

So naturally you can pay a harvesting company to get a load of contacts. Same if you need money. You can sell yours!

Yay ca

I barely wish to engage with people in the first place re-engagement is very much a no thank you.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1601196211754639362?s=19

Lol and indeed lmao

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
Screwfix used to do complimentary coffee and pastries in the trades section but then it was just coffee and now that's rarely

Further signs of our crumbling society imo

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


The best part of that is the Lib Dems being exactly one seat shy of making a coalition.

The most hosed part, of course, is that it's possible to lead an election by a double-digit margin and not win it.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

How many DUP seats, or are we just assuming that the Republic takes back it's stolen land?

edit: Not mentioned so far but STV commissioned an Indyref poll putting yes on 56% and SNP getting 51% of the Scotland vote in a UK General Election. So expect the tory press to spend the next year demanding that Starmer denounce the Nats imprison Nicola, and end devolution.

keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Dec 9, 2022

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Jeremy Corbyn would be 20 points ahead

Mano
Jul 11, 2012

Jedit posted:

The most hosed part, of course, is that it's possible to lead an election by a double-digit margin and not win it.

No, that's in general a feature except if you like eternally-2-party-states.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63905505

BRITANNIA UNCHAINED

THE CASINO IS OPEN ONCE MORE AND THOSE PESKY HOUSE RULES HAVE BEEN SCRAPPED

STEP RIGHT UP AND PLAY ROULETTE WITH THE MONEY AND HOMES AND LIVES OF THE PEASANTS

BRITANNIA UNCHAINEEEEEDDDDDDDDD

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Jedit posted:

The most hosed part, of course, is that it's possible to lead an election by a double-digit margin and not win it.

Don't see why a party with less than half the vote should win, myself. It's Labour's fault they lost Scotland and would have to negotiate with the SNP.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

As someone who hasn't followed megan and harry and anything to do with that one tiny bit more than is imposed on me by existing on this cursed earth...

https://twitter.com/JolyonRubs/status/1370090901121478662

It turns out harry cucked peirs morgan and everything suddenly makes sense

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

quote:

Rules that forced banks to legally separate retail banking from riskier investment operations will be reviewed.

quote:

There will also be new rules around bundling investments together into tradeable units - a process called securitisation.

quote:

The government also re-announced more freedom for the pensions and insurance industry to invest in longer term, illiquid assets - those that are hard to sell quickly such as social housing, windfarms, and nuclear - which the government will say helps their levelling up ambitions.

quote:

Those were introduced after the 2008 financial crisis when some banks faced collapse.
We have learned loving nothing lets GOOO

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I've got a Toolstation trade account that gets you a month credit and 5% off everything. Just needed to send them a piece of company name headed paper.

At trade merchants the level of discount is variable. It probably won’t help for just the odd use here and there but if you have a big project you are doing then you can negotiate and sometimes get a better rate than some small traders. Essentially just say “I’m doing a big refurbishment and am going to spend xx thousands, I’d like to get everything in once place so what rate can you give me to do it here rather than at Travis Perkins/Jewson/Wherever?”

Source: A few years doing market research for a plumbing/builders merchant and quite a few tradespeople complained they looked like idiots or liars about costs when their customers managed to go directly to a trade merchant and negotiate a bigger discount than they had themselves.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

We have learned loving nothing lets GOOO
*unzips

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

surely this time the plate-spinning machine will spin all of our plates and not drop them all!

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1601203965256814592?s=46&t=R_IxWCY4W7RdzVm-XmxlzA

Pretty good visual of how loving wild regional inequality is in the UK.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


So long as you get your plates off first it's fine right? Those other people with smashed plates? Idiots! Fools! Everyone knows plate spinning is risky!

Now who would like to buy my plate spinning device???

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Salisbury Snape posted:

Enjoy the monthly Toolstation and screwfix 'deals and offers' letters through the post that you can't seem to unsubscribe from

I just told the nice person at the counter I didn't want em anymore and they stopped coming for me.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobby Deluxe posted:

We have learned loving nothing lets GOOO
Lets just let them collapse this time around. Insure the savings of individuals up to a few grand, bolster social services to help people who end up destitute, but let the banks and housing market and all of their assets poo poo it.

No bailouts, no too big to fail, no nationalizing losses while profits are private. Want to sue privately? Enjoy your wait because the courts are all hosed too. If you like to gamble, I tell you, I'm your man.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Darth Walrus posted:

https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1601203965256814592?s=46&t=R_IxWCY4W7RdzVm-XmxlzA

Pretty good visual of how loving wild regional inequality is in the UK.

Aren't all those cities Labour majority too? Basically crushed by tories loving the funding?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"Average economic strength per resident" doesn't mean much either though, London still has some of the most deprived wards in the country. It's like saying "well the levels of urine in this pool are still on average acceptable" when there's a royal nonce stood on the side with his dick out pissing on people trying to swim.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

team overhead smash posted:

At trade merchants the level of discount is variable. It probably won’t help for just the odd use here and there but if you have a big project you are doing then you can negotiate and sometimes get a better rate than some small traders. Essentially just say “I’m doing a big refurbishment and am going to spend xx thousands, I’d like to get everything in once place so what rate can you give me to do it here rather than at Travis Perkins/Jewson/Wherever?”

Source: A few years doing market research for a plumbing/builders merchant and quite a few tradespeople complained they looked like idiots or liars about costs when their customers managed to go directly to a trade merchant and negotiate a bigger discount than they had themselves.

Builders merchants are a racket. Their quotes are always uncompetitive and their off the shelf prices a joke. But they're willing to take people's money. It's got to the point where I have to research the cheapest price online at like insulationwarehouse.com or whatever them just send that to the builders merchants and say delivery this for this price and they pretty much always do.

If you let the builder or subcontractor go themselves they'll just spend your money at whatever the gently caress price.

I used to have a good relationship and setup at buildbase but then they got bought by one of the other ones, just like jewsons and ridgeons did. My guy left and wasn't replaced and now getting a quote takes weeks rather than hours.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Mebh posted:

Aren't all those cities Labour majority too? Basically crushed by tories loving the funding?

Pretty much all major cities are majority Labour (in England anyway). Labour are the city party.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Comrade Fakename posted:

Pretty much all major cities are majority Labour (in England anyway). Labour are the city party.

When does a city stop being major anyway.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jedit posted:

The most hosed part, of course, is that it's possible to lead an election by a double-digit margin and not win it.

I mean that, arguably, is the point? They have 41% of the vote which is not an absolute majority, a representative electoral system should give them a large minority. If anything, producing majorities with minorities of the vote share is one of the things people complain about FPTP doing too much.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Mebh posted:

When does a city stop being major anyway.

When no one wants to go there.

Nothing will ever convince me that Perth, dunfermline and Inverness are cities. Dundee and Aberdeen are stretching the definition.

I'm sure England is chock full of uppity mid level towns cosplaying as cities too.

Lmao forgot Stirling, everyone always forgets Stirling.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Mebh posted:

When does a city stop being major anyway.
Tory: when it doesn't have a cathedral
Labour: when it doesn't have a unitary authority
Green: when it doesn't have illegal levels of air pollution
Lib Dem: when it doesn't have a Harvey Nicks

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

keep punching joe posted:

When no one wants to go there.

Nothing will ever convince me that Perth, dunfermline and Inverness are cities. Dundee and Aberdeen are stretching the definition.

I'm sure England is chock full of uppity mid level towns cosplaying as cities too.

I live in Exeter which is a "city" of 125,000 people lol

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

When it stops reupping its paperwork, happened to medway, whole place vanished into a pit overnight.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Soon you won't even be able to go outside without being arrested, etc.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63916328

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If that were enforced it would put half the tory party in prison.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Barry Foster posted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63905505

BRITANNIA UNCHAINED

THE CASINO IS OPEN ONCE MORE AND THOSE PESKY HOUSE RULES HAVE BEEN SCRAPPED

STEP RIGHT UP AND PLAY ROULETTE WITH THE MONEY AND HOMES AND LIVES OF THE PEASANTS

BRITANNIA UNCHAINEEEEEDDDDDDDDD

I guess the tory gamble is that the growth numbers look amazing just before the next election and the inevitable crash waits until afterwards, and nobody holds them to account for this obvious economic sabotage in the meantime

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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Guavanaut posted:

"Average economic strength per resident" doesn't mean much either though, London still has some of the most deprived wards in the country.
Yeah, it's entirely possible that the diamond encrusted family with infinite money may be skewing the statistics to hide the candyman-level deprivation some londoners are facing, but that would mean asking some awkward questions about wealth distribution.

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