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Army Painter washes used to be really great...but IIRC, some time back they changed the formula and (at least in my experience, anyways) they're a lot thicker and gloopier now, and generally don't flow as well as a Citadel wash (at least the old Citadel washes, haven't used the newer ones that were reformulated with the more Contrast-like medium), or a homemade wash made with inks and medium.
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I'll die on the hill that people should just buy liquitex flow improver and various acrylic mediums to make their own stuff. It just lasts so much longer.
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Dec 9, 2022 01:51
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The Demilich posted:I'll die on the hill that people should just buy liquitex flow improver and various acrylic mediums to make their own stuff. It just lasts so much longer. I made a shitload of brown wash years ago and i've yet to run out of it. just burnt umber, little bit of black, flow improver, touch of matte medium, then like 99% water
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Pierzak posted:Might linking a few of them? These two posts are literally the first time I encountered bad opinions on the AP washes. I wasn't referring to their washes in particular, just their paints in general. Fauxhammer: "there are some genuine diamonds in this rough and ready range." (https://www.fauxhammer.com/reviews/the-army-painter-review-for-miniatures-wargames-models/) Here's Benji's Hobbies finding them too watery with poor coverage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvlYUj5xtt0 Here's Geek Gaming saying they had to add a medium to them to get them to homogenize well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWzLRD1Cetc Muir fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Dec 9, 2022 |
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Dec 9, 2022 04:10
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Muir posted:I wasn't referring to their washes in particular, just their paints in general. And I was referring to their washes specifically. The uneven and often mediocre quality of plain Army Painter paints are a well-known fact and I don't need any more material on that, but their washes are excellent so I was surprised. The Demilich posted:I'll die on the hill that people should just buy liquitex flow improver and various acrylic mediums to make their own stuff. It just lasts so much longer.
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Dec 9, 2022 04:23
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Pierzak posted:And I was referring to their washes specifically. It took me about 10 minutes to gather up everything then mix it together in large dropper bottle that I bought a bunch of on amazon. It's not difficult. You should have all the stuff to make it anyway as the ingredients are useful to have for a bunch of other things anyway. You can even cheap out and use ink, water, and a little drop of dish soap. You should have 2/3 of those things in your house. Edit: keep in mind, I only use this wash on bases and terrain and stuff. So I just want it to be cheap and to make a lot Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Dec 9, 2022 |
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Dec 9, 2022 05:08
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Mini painting YouTuber OG Doctor Faust routinely mixes up his own washes with inks and Pledge with Future floor polish, if he can make time to do so then we can too 
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Dec 9, 2022 05:31
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Ink with pledge was my deal for a while too. Was so nice to have washes in whatever colors I wanted. I gotta try it with flow improver though.
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Marx Headroom posted:Ink with pledge was my deal for a while too. Was so nice to have washes in whatever colors I wanted. I gotta try it with flow improver though. Huh, that seems like it would work really well. I've used pledge as a varnish before and it makes sense that you could tune that with acrylic-medium or whatever. Currently trying to sort out my airbrush a d I've just been getting a ton of spattering. Freshly cleaned patriot 105, running flow improver with some valejo black primer and a black ink. Am I thinning incorrectly, or is it some issues with my setup? My little compressor should be running around 30-32 psi I think
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Dec 9, 2022 06:47
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That's a really high pressure for thinned paint/inks. Cut that in half.
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Muir posted:I wasn't referring to their washes in particular, just their paints in general. Haven't caught the videos yet, but I'm reading through the Fauxhammer article and he specifically mentions that for the one that took 10 coats to cover, he hadn't shaken the bottle. The overall review is pretty positive, and the cons include things that have been fixed (mixing balls), or aren't direct issues at all (weak range, mediocre in-box presentation). I don't nearly have the experience to comment on it myself, but he mentions this: Fauxhammer posted:I�ve added inconsistent coverage in the Cons column above. Many people say this and I have to agree. I�ve pretty much resolved this with by understanding the extra medium added to the bottles and with power-assisted mixing. But most people don�t have or can�t really justify buying a vortex mixer (even though they are cool as hell!) just to use a range of paints. But you can always just pull the dropper cap off and give it a good mix inside with an old brush before your first use.
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I ended up grabbing Kalahari orange, Gobi brown, and Anthracite grey from Scale 75 and Pistachio from AK, as well as Blood for the Blood God and some tan vallejo primer. Thanks!
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Dec 9, 2022 14:26
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w00tmonger posted:Huh, that seems like it would work really well. I've used pledge as a varnish before and it makes sense that you could tune that with acrylic-medium or whatever. I usually don't do straight FImp, I do 3:1 airbrush thinner to FImp. I don't know if that's your issue here but something to try. I know the other poster mentioned you don't need it that high already, but seconding and I'd def lower that psi.
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Rash Hardbottom of the Blue Shell Pirates springs boldly into action! This frog found a job doing what he loves and will never work a day in his life!    Mini by Artisan Guild: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-bull-gurunda-modular-f-163764
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This time in "color scheme testing" we have a Greyjoy archer. Which I think is coming off as a generic medieval archer. Still not 100% convinced because I don't want them to look like they are a standing army with a uniform but still need some unifying color.   
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I'm addicted to painting spooky rusty boys
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I painted some TIE fighters/interceptors/bombers for Star Wars: Armada. The TIE fighter panels are about the size of my pinky fingernail, these are pretty small but still have some details to bring out (like the lasers under the cockpits). The interior wing panels don’t have the panel lines to bring out though, and I’m not trying to freehand something that tiny.   
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here are today's greenstuff projects! First off, Heihachi Mishima from tekken for my ork Kommando kill team:-  I need to find out how to do sheets of torn cloth to make the flared pats heihachi mishima wears, I'll look around on youtube but if you know of better ways to make torn cloth I would love to know! Next up is the dog from the Elucidian Star Striders kill team:-  I'm not a big fan of the Doberman look, so I decided if I were an insanely rich Rogue Trader I would have Amaterasu from the video game Okami, so I did my best to try to sculpt green stuff to make an approximation of that character.I'll probly add a symbol of some sort to the disk on top of the flame when it dries out. critique/advice/comments greatly appreciated!
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Dec 9, 2022 22:33
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Bro just casually designing whole minis I'd probably buy itt 💀
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wanna see this guy hurl a grot off a cliff
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Al-Saqr posted:here are today's greenstuff projects! HOLY ELECTRIC WIND WAAAAGH FIST
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Count Thrashula posted:I'm addicted to painting spooky rusty boys I love this. Have you given any thought to OSL reflecting the blue?
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Al-Saqr posted:here are today's greenstuff projects! Very nice!
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moths posted:I love this. I thought about it but I'm a scared little baby when it comes to trying OSL
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 I'm going to try barrel drilling for the first time with these guys, arms from the motorcycle kit. How's the angle?
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Clearly I’ve got more patience than sense  4 stands of interceptors, for Armada. Finishing these off, then moving on to finish my base TIEs. 
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Al-Saqr posted:here are today's greenstuff projects! Da Gorkhand approves! 
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Zark the Damned posted:Da Gorkhand approves! LOL that rules
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Anybody know a decent colour match to citadel wraithbone rattlecan primer? Like a lot of citadel primers the pots don’t match the cans. I’ve decanted a bit but it’s murder on paint brushes and a complete pain in the rear end.
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Zuul the Cat posted:It's probably just down to personal preference but I don't like Army Painter paints at all. I find the coverage really bad and their washes are frustrating. YMMV though. I like them because they behave like 90s citadel paints, but if you're used to modern ultra-pigmented ranges I can see why people wouldn't gel with them
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Army Painter just put out a video saying that they know everybody dislikes their paints so they're reformulating them and working with content creators to make a better product. I respect that.
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Count Thrashula posted:Army Painter just put out a video saying that they know everybody dislikes their paints so they're reformulating them and working with content creators to make a better product. I respect that. Welp, time to buy a gallon of their washes before they gently caress up the formula.
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Pierzak posted:Welp, time to buy a gallon of their washes before they gently caress up the formula. Somewhere a marketing agent is walking through the grocery store and just got an unexplained erection.
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Count Thrashula posted:Army Painter just put out a video saying that they know everybody dislikes their paints so they're reformulating them and working with content creators to make a better product. I respect that. Specifically speedpaints ot what? I'm 80/20 on their stuff, and wonder how much of it is comparison to other paint lines
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I like Army Painter as a company and all their products, except their base paint line. The color metallics are neat, their wet palette is awesome, their scenery stuff is good, and I have good experience with their spray primer. If they are improving their paint that is great!
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If they reduce or eliminate the reactivation on the speed paints I will be honestly sad, you can do some cool poo poo with that.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I like Army Painter as a company and all their products, except their base paint line. The color metallics are neat, their wet palette is awesome, their scenery stuff is good, and I have good experience with their spray primer. If they are improving their paint that is great! Same, I've only used a couple of AP base paints but they were lackluster, but I've been happy with their basing mats, tools, sprays, and swear by their washes. I would buy their Dark and Soft Tone by the quart bottle if they sold it.
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Bucnasti posted:Same, I've only used a couple of AP base paints but they were lackluster, but I've been happy with their basing mats, tools, sprays, and swear by their washes. I would buy their Dark and Soft Tone by the quart bottle if they sold it. good news is that they do sell it by the quart but not in a bottle https://www.thearmypainter.com/basic-painting/dip/how-to-use-quickshade-dip/
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 The new Chosen kit is so great
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Spanish Manlove posted:good news is that they do sell it by the quart but not in a bottle Is the canned dip the same as the dropper bottle wash? I assumed (for some reason) it was thicker. Edit: I just read the whole page it says the dip is an oil based product and takes 24-48hrs to dry, so it' can't be the same as what I get in the droppers. Bucnasti fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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