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What best approximates your holiday experience?
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A time of festivities with family and friends that reminds you of life and love 5 13.89%
A time of rumination and reflection as you consider your year and the next 4 11.11%
A time of quiet, cloudy depression where you fold yourself in shows and video games until it's over 17 47.22%
A time to smoke just so much god damned weed 10 27.78%
Total: 36 votes
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ccubed
Jul 14, 2016

How's it hanging, brah?
https://twitter.com/cclegaspi/status/1601292772035551232

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Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!

TheTofuShop posted:

Ah my bad, fwiw id prefer not to have that kind of graphic imagery posted in the thread but I also get that we are all watching punchsports so that stuff might get posted, and gruesome violence is something we all kinda buy into to some degree.

Yeah I considered it about that picture but it didn't really seem that bad to me, the thing that stands out at first glance is actually just a drawn line so the docs can keep track of where the infection is, the rest is mostly swelling and the little spot where presumably the infection got in. If it's like big open wounds and such it should probably be spoiler tagged.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

The foots fine imo. Seen worse after people cop elbows. Spicy dumb twitter stuff is kinda a bane on the forums.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

LobsterMobster posted:

once again, i come in after carl's good breakdown with a bad :siren: b league preview :siren:

Bellator 289 - Friday, December 9

Main Card - 9PM ET, ShowTime

Interim Bantamweight Title and Bantamweight Gran Prix (Semi-Final) - Raufeon “Supa” Stots vs Danny “The Italian Gangster” Sabatello

Stots is 18-1 with 4 TKO and 4 submission wins. His lone loss came in 2017, a 15-second knockout via spinning backfist against Merab Dvalishvilil on the regional scene. He’s rattled off 10 straight since then, including going 6-0 in Bellator. He captured the interim title in the quarter-finals of the Grand Prix via third round head kick KO on Juan Archuleta in April.

Sabatello is 13-1, with 3 TKO and 4 submission wins. His lone loss came against Irwin “Please Remember to Get Some Sleep so You Don’t Attempt to Murder Your Family Members” Rivera via fourth round TKO in Titan FC in 2019. He’s won 7 in a row since then, including his 3 Bellator bouts.

Bellator has tried many, many times to find Their Guy. Usually, Their Guy is a flawed imitation of UFC’s Guy, like Michael Page and James Gallagher being Bellator Guys for Conor McGregor (Brash, from across the Atlantic, for MVP - a deadly counter striker, for Gallagher - a dumb chest tattoo). Now it feels like Bellator is trying again with Sabatello as Their Guy. He’s a loudmouth American with ridiculous dyed hair. He’s the Sean O’Malley we have at WinStar World Casino in Thackerville, Oklahoma. For these crimes, I must wholeheartedly endorse Raufeon Stots for devastating victory.

Flyweight Title - Liz “Girl-Rilla” Carmouche vs Juliana Velasquez

Carmouche is 17-7 with 8 TKO and 3 submission wins. She’s putting the finishing touches on her 12th year of pro MMA competition. She’s got a win over Valentina Shevchenko in both womens’ early days. She went 2-2 in StrikeForce, 2-0 in Invicta, 5-5 in UFC, and is now 4-0 in Bellator. She captured the Flyweight title in April with a crucifix TKO.

Velasquez is 12-1, with 4 TKO and 1 submission wins. She’s 7-1 in Bellator, her lone loss coming to Carmouche in April. As evidenced by her lack of nickname, Velasquez has nothing interesting about her at all.

Look, we can all be honest. Carmouche’s stoppage win was kind of weak. Would 13 more seconds to end the round have been devastating for Velasquez to take? It seems unlikely, but maybe hearing the 10-second clapper would have spurred Liz on to drop more forceful elbows.

Bantamweight Grand Prix (Semi-Final) - Magomed “Tiger” Magomedov vs Patchy “No Love” Mix

Magomedov is 19-2, boasting 4 TKO and 9 submission wins. He split a pair of bouts against Petr Yan on the Russian regional scene in 2016 - 2017. He’s 3-1 in Bellator, having lost to Raufeon Stots in 2021, but rebounding with a win by 4th round guillotine choke over Enrique Barzola in June in the Grand Prix.

Mix is 16-1 with 1 TKO and 11 submission wins. He’s 5-1 in Bellator, losing to Juan Archuleta for the then-vacant Bantamweight title. He’s now on a 3-fight win streak, including a huge upset win over Kyoji Horiguchi in the Grand Prix.

We’ve got two accomplished grapplers going at it. Magomedov, unsurprisingly, is a classic Dagestan Man, who utilizes various brutal means with which to Smesh opponents. Mix does have a wrestling background, but he’s very good at becoming a Jansport made of flesh as he takes backs and strangles his opponents. Normally, I’d say this would be a tepid kickboxing contest. However, a DagMan, especially with two Magomeds in his name, has no fear of another man’s ground game, so expect some wild scrambles in this one.

Middleweight - Dalton “Hercules” Rosta vs Anthony “Sugafoot” Adams

Rosta is 7-0 with 4 TKO wins. All of his pro fights have taken place inside the Bellator Circlegon.

Adams is 9-2 with 1 TKO win. Since 2019, he’s had 3 bouts actually take place, with another 9 scheduled that never happened. He’s on a one fight win streak, having dropped his previous bout to Impa Kasanganay on the Contender Series in 2020.

Rosta is far more active, so assuming Adams makes it to the cage, I think Dalton wins this one.

Prelims - 5:25 PM ET, YouTube

Flyweight - Denise “Miss Dynamite” Kielholtz vs Ilara “Arya Stark” Joanne

Kielholtz is 6-4, with 2 TKO and 3 submission wins, and 3 submission losses. She went 4-1 in Bellator Kickboxing (Remember that? Lol), and is 6-3 in Bellator MMA, having lost her two most recent MMA contests.

Joanne is 10-6, with 4 TKO and 3 sub wins. She’s 2-2 in Bellator, beating Bec Rawlings (Remember her? Lol) and Alejandra Lara in between losing to Kana Watanabe and Vanessa Porto.

Both fighters have lost to Kana Watanabe, so they can commiserate over that shared failure after the fight.

Welterweight - Kyle Crutchmer vs Jaleel “The Realest” Willis

Crutchmer is 9-1, with 1 TKO and 3 submission wins. He’s 5-1 in Bellator, his lone loss coming by decision to Kemran Lachinov in 2020. Since then, he has won three in a row.

Willis is 15-4 with 5 TKO wins. He popped up briefly in WSoF and Bellator in 2016, winning single fights in those promotions by decision. He went 3-2 in LFA, and is now back in Bellator, currently 2-2 in his second go, having lost his last two bouts.

Crutchmer is a wrestler who’s giving up 2 inches in height and 6 inches in reach. But, y’know, he’s a highly accomplished wrestler, and thus, is a terrifying cube of meat.

Featherweight - Cody Law vs Cris “Sunshine” Lencioni

Law has fought all of his pro career in Bellator, going 6-1, with 4 TKO and 1 submission wins. He lost his most recent bout, dropping a decision to James Gonzalez in June.

Lencioni is 9-3 with 5 submission wins. He went 4-2 in Bellator from 2017 - 2020, ending his run on a 3-fight win streak. He’s won his two most recent bouts in various regional promotions.

Law is an accomplished wrestler, and on Lencioni’s Tapology page, his Foundation Style is listed as “Shakes that’ll make you quake”. They are not the same.

Featherweight - Kevin “Game Time” Boehm vs Kai “Fighting Hawaiian” Kamaka III

Boehm is 9-5, with 4 TKO and 1 submission win. He’s 0-1 in Bellator, having gotten choked out in his debut in July.

Kamaka is also 9-5, with a lone submission win on his record. He went 2-0 in his first Bellator stint that ended in 2019, went 1-2 in the UFC, and now is back in Bellator with a 1-1 record on this new run.

Kai Kamaka III, finish a fight challenge (Impossible Difficulty)

Welterweight - Mark Lemminger vs Michael “The Don” Lombardo

Lemminger is 12-5 with 5 TKO and 4 submission wins, and 3 TKO losses. He’s 2-4 in Bellator, in a weird, unsustainable “win one, lose two” set up. Luckily, he just lost the final bout of his pair, so he should be in good shape.

Lombardo is 12-3 with 4 TKO and 3 submission wins. He lost to Kyle Daukus on the Contender Series in 2019, then beat Korey Kuppe in 2020, but it was by decision, so clearly he isn’t good enough for a UFC contract that pays a bowl of thistles for the next six years. He won via first round Leg Kick TKO (Who has ever heard of such a thing???) in PFL in 2021, and most recently dropped a decision to Kyle Crutchmer in his Bellator debut back in April.

Lombardo really struggles against the Kyles of the world, huh?

Middleweight - Patrick Downey vs Christian “The Vanilla Gorilla” Echols

Downey is 1-0, winning his debut in Bellator by 36-second arm triangle in August over Keyes Nelson.

Echols is 2-2, with both wins by submission. He hit the skids early, dropping his first two pro fights, but rebounded to win his next two.

Downey is an accomplished wrestler (Feel like I’ve been saying this a lot), but he’s also a turd who, at one point, was facing a potential 35 years in prison for various street fights he got into. He ended up pleading down to 6 days in jail. Echols has “The mix up” as his Foundation Style. We gotta stop letting fighters put in their own information on Tapolgy. They are grossly abusing it with the dumbest poo poo imaginable.

Bantamweight - “The Mean Green Fighting Machine” Cass Bell vs Jared “Psycho” Scoggins

Bell is 5-2 with 1 TKO and 3 submission wins. His entire pro career has taken place under the Bellator banner. He’s lost his last two, getting choked out by Raufeon Stots in 2020, and dropping a decision to Jornel Lugo in 2021.

Scoggins is 10-2, with 4 TKO wins. Since 2020, he’s only had two fights, with 5 additional bouts scheduled that never manifested. He’s 0-1 in Bellator, getting stopped by Josh Hill in December 2021.

Bell is a 35-year old Bantamweight. Scoggins, being a Scoggins, is a bit of a headcase and prone to doing dumb poo poo in fights. Should be weird!

GDT for the weekend is

right here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4019349

avantgardener
Sep 16, 2003


From one pumped-up midget to another.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

I feel like even a diminished McGregor can put his left on Chandler at will.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

TheKingslayer posted:

I feel like even a diminished McGregor can put his left on Chandler at will.

He probably can. But also, since Chandler has more than a round and a half of gas, Conor might need a back up plan.

I think Conor's main problem as a fighter is he bought his own hype. There's that often repeated line that he only needs one or some variation. That's only been true once in his UFC career and it was his timing and accuracy against Aldo, not just straight power. The rest of the time it's an accumulation. I have no doubt he hits hard, but he doesn't have magic one punch knockout power most of the time. When he hurt Dustin in the second and third fights, he was flat footed and unable to follow up. He just stood there, waiting, sure that if he hit him once he'd go down.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



He could tag him for sure, but I also feel like Conor's left hand not the weapon at WW it was at FW/LW against anyone not as washed as Cerrone. And he is definitely is not a submission threat like Poirier.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

I think the bigger problem is that he's fought 4 times in 5 years in a rapidly evolving sport.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


I don't think mcgregor has anything for the pressure chandler puts out. And chandler, in fairness to him, is insanely tough.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

COPE 27 posted:

I think the bigger problem is that he's fought 4 times in 5 years in a rapidly evolving sport.

Yeah its kinda this. Chandler has fought 4 times in the time conor has fought once.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


He'll completely out work him and he can wrestle.

Thats throwing mcgregor to the wolves imo, but hes probably noted that chandler leads with his chin enough that he can "put him out handily". But I'd be fairly confident that chandler will walk through them.

Southpaugh fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Dec 10, 2022

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!

Nierbo
Dec 5, 2010

sup brah?
I think Chandler will do to Connor what a full camp Mendes would have done.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
Totally random post:

This movie just popped up in my youtube, I had never heard of it before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp88Nuci68c

boxing guy goes to jail in Thailand, learns kick boxing, etc. etc.
Thought I'd share.

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

a) Danny Sabatello is loving terrible, and b) For anyone brave enough to watch today's UFC prelims so as not to miss SAIIMAN, the many cancellations have pushed the entire card back an hour so now it begins at 3:30 PM PST/6:30 EST.

DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

HAHA! WOOOOOOO WOOO!
Fun Shoe

sick fight. i hope Conor’s juice revitalizes him. another run would be exciting.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

islam off the top rope:

https://twitter.com/MAKHACHEVMMA/status/1601590486124228608?t=9HDLPDlFpWN0zCl2_mNQpg&s=19

Lucasar
Jan 25, 2005

save a few for lefty too
I don't like either guy much (though Chandler is an eminently watchable fighter). I guess I hope Conor makes Chandler look like an idiot at all the press conferences and then Chandler makes Conor look like an idiot in the match.

Will it be the shortest welterweight match up ever?

edit: by shortest I mean the stature of the combatants not the duration of the match

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

Lucasar posted:

I don't like either guy much (though Chandler is an eminently watchable fighter). I guess I hope Conor makes Chandler look like an idiot at all the press conferences and then Chandler makes Conor look like an idiot in the match.

Will it be the shortest welterweight match up ever?

edit: by shortest I mean the stature of the combatants not the duration of the match

This is just off the top of my head, but I think the shortest UFC welterweight fight ever would be 5'6" Matt Serra vs 5'8" Frank Trigg.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Sean Sherk and Hermes Franca are both listed as 5'6 and they fought once

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

That was after Sherk had dropped down to 155 pounds, unfortunately.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4019349&pagenumber=1#lastpost

Come on back to the GDT for our last goddamn PPV. Prelims start in 30.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!

CarlCX posted:

That was after Sherk had dropped down to 155 pounds, unfortunately.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4019349&pagenumber=1#lastpost

Come on back to the GDT for our last goddamn PPV. Prelims start in 30.

Fights actually starting on time. Cya in the GDT.

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

i cant stand chandler as a person, hes super annoying, but he has had exactly zero fiights that werent fotn caliber. ill be rooting for him hard to end conors career for good. if not, let poirier beat some money of him for a third time :getin:

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

hey friends ive been using https://mmafightcards.org/ for a while which is great but does anyone hav/does such a handy link exist like this that just tells me where they are on the carrd/what fights are done and maybe who won, at a glance? ty :tipshat:

fuckin tired of navigating ufc's slow rear end, terrible site

Keptbroom
Sep 10, 2009
It stopped working for me for a while then came back, but if you google "ufc" you should get something like this

Trillhouse
Dec 31, 2000

beep by grandpa posted:

hey friends ive been using https://mmafightcards.org/ for a while which is great but does anyone hav/does such a handy link exist like this that just tells me where they are on the carrd/what fights are done and maybe who won, at a glance? ty :tipshat:

fuckin tired of navigating ufc's slow rear end, terrible site
Wikipedia is fast about updating cards as they happen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_282

Brown Paper Bag
Nov 3, 2012

Edit - Wrong thread

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

O god I just watched a fighter who was born when I was well into high school starch someone. well it a fun watching ufc with you all while it lasted

beep by grandpa fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Dec 11, 2022

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

Vacant is the fighter of the year.

edit:
https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1601830062113841154
what is even happening

CarlCX fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Dec 11, 2022

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!
lmao

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1601829796190617600

The best promoter in mixed martial arts, everyone.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

CarlCX posted:

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1601829796190617600

The best promoter in mixed martial arts, everyone.

please remember that he also described their gigantic horse muscles knockout machine inspiring story having heavyweight champ as not a draw.

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

That should've been a brilliant comeback victory for Ankalaev, but the judges are terrible AND Dana doesn't put him over because... cocaine or something, idk

A Glover/Hill/Jan/Ankalaev mini tourney could be fun, oh well

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

CarlCX posted:

Vacant is the fighter of the year.

edit:
https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1601830062113841154
what is even happening

Glover wins and retires same night Vacant keeps winning

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

Just to put a cap on how hosed the light-heavyweight top ten is right now (and I'm definitely not making this picture for purposes of a thread I'm working on), this is the current UFC slate:

  • there's no champion
  • #1 and #5, despite being clear frontrunners, are out indefinitely with injuries
  • #3 and #4 just failed to crown a new champion and got banged up enough that it'll be months before they're ready to go again, but #4 is so pissed off he's not sure he wants to fight anymore
  • #6 has lost to most of the top five, and was SUPPOSED to fight #7 to possibly set up a new contender prospect, however:
  • #7 just got pulled from that fight and springboarded into title contendership on one month's notice, because the only person ahead of him who COULD take the fight got their teeth punched out by #2
  • #8, rather than moving up, is currently scheduled to defend his position against #11
  • #9, coming off a loss, is next facing #12
  • #10 has lost six of his last nine fights and only has one win in the last three years, which is, hilariously, over the guy currently ranked above him

So 2 of the top 10 can't fight, 2 just fought and won't be available for months AND the UFC just publicly poo poo all over both of them, 2 have already been so badly beaten by the top five that they have no claim at the top and 2 are permanently stuck at the very edge of the division, and the fresh new blood getting the title shot has zero wins in the top ten and earned his #1 contendership by beating a guy who was 1 for his last 6 and was immediately fired after the fight.

Light-heavyweight has always been kind of a garbage fire, but by god, this is stretching it.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

vacant has more successful title defenses than carla esparza

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
How did they end up a draw? Why is Dana so angry beyond his usual level of anger?

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




ilmucche posted:

How did they end up a draw? Why is Dana so angry beyond his usual level of anger?

A couple judges scored a 10-8 fifth round

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beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

As someone who decided this was going to be stupid and turned off the main event after round 1 and went to sleep,

Lol
Lmao

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