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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

redneck nazgul posted:

the US is going to pay their new client state to fly planes into saudi landmarks

the saudis would be extremely pleased about this

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
You already have those incels that go to different Anglo countries to shoot up the mosque.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
why is that a big deal? Xi isn’t telling them to stop using the dollar he’s telling them to use the shanghai exchange if they’re gonna do sales in Yuan, is there a big deal to this?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Al-Saqr posted:

why is that a big deal? Xi isn’t telling them to stop using the dollar he’s telling them to use the shanghai exchange if they’re gonna do sales in Yuan, is there a big deal to this?

nobody (but Russia this year?) settles oil sales in anything other than USD

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Al-Saqr posted:

why is that a big deal? Xi isn’t telling them to stop using the dollar he’s telling them to use the shanghai exchange if they’re gonna do sales in Yuan, is there a big deal to this?

its the beginning of the realignment of the world monetary system away from the US to probably china

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
if countries don't have to maintain huge fuckoff USD reserves and can instead maintain unreasonably large USD reserves and large yuan reserves it really cuts away at the US's non-military means of enforcing imperialism

combined with China/Russia working on a legit SWIFT alternative it will be an enormous leveling of American power

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Al-Saqr posted:

why is that a big deal? Xi isn’t telling them to stop using the dollar he’s telling them to use the shanghai exchange if they’re gonna do sales in Yuan, is there a big deal to this?

It undermines the US tributary system OP

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 59 days!

Gresh posted:

Dear Leader Xi continues his plan of world domination without firing a shot until the US gets mad enough and starts some poo poo

https://twitter.com/GoldTelegraph_/status/1601213701381820418
military dorks hanging out at our community burger halls being occupied by un peacekeepers. chirping and clapping their hands while admiring the patches

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Gresh posted:

Dear Leader Xi continues his plan of world domination without firing a shot until the US gets mad enough and starts some poo poo

https://twitter.com/GoldTelegraph_/status/1601213701381820418

We'll see if any of the Gulf states take him up on that.

This paragraph from the Reuters story appears to signal the Saudis aren't ready to.

quote:

A Saudi source, speaking before Xi's visit, told Reuters that a decision to sell small amounts of oil in yuan to China could make sense in order to pay Chinese imports directly, but "it is not yet the right time".

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://twitter.com/JiangJiang43/status/1601353281120636928?t=HvAJRkkICl2J6E_OKmOjlQ&s=19

10 per 100,000 still seems pretty low

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Gresh posted:

Dear Leader Xi continues his plan of world domination without firing a shot until the US gets mad enough and starts some poo poo

https://twitter.com/GoldTelegraph_/status/1601213701381820418

crazy how fast dedollarization is happening

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

it is but that's a huge jump in capacity after just 3 years

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
How many beds did the US add since 2019

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
There won't be any medical personnel left uninfected to staff the beds, so eh.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

OhFunny posted:

We'll see if any of the Gulf states take him up on that.

This paragraph from the Reuters story appears to signal the Saudis aren't ready to.

But...that is a start. They are going to sell oil to China for Yuan.

Unless that is nothing new.

Edit: nvm misread.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010


at the height of the omicron surge:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-canadas-hospital-capacity-was-so-easily-overwhelmed-by-the-covid-pandemic



lol

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Atrocious Joe posted:

Seeing leftists hesitant about overseas solidarity for the protests in China reminds me of my friend Vincent Wong's incisive point: dogmatic applications of 'The main enemy is at home' makes no sense for many migrants in movements in the imperial core.

Liebknecht's slogan 'The main enemy is at home' was for socialists living in the actively aggressor state of Germany in WWI, not as ahistorical, moralizing, isolationist dogma for Western socialists to withhold critiques of other states when they oppress their own working-class.

SYQ

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/aeshazus/status/1600971280156856320

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

How many beds did the US add since 2019

lol

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/goofxist/status/1601389072047427585

Chonchon
Dec 16, 2013

indigi posted:

that seems awfully cynical. I doubt they did it to spite their people even in a passive way, since if your other reasons are true (they want to move past economic stagnation [even though they're still growing while the US is firmly in a recession]) then allowing omicron to run rampant and kill+disable millions guarantees an even worse economic outcome


I think they're just bored of it, or believe with how easily transmissible omicron is that even covid zero is going to fail sooner or later

Just about half the population has had covid (many multiply!) in Singapore and its literally fine, there have been 1707 fatalities and the vast majority don’t exhibit long-term symptoms. I have had covid thrice, and each time was a headache and a sore throat for like 3 days followed by a week off work.

The experience of just about everyone I know was similar, even an 80 year old dude jammed full of comorbidities.I do not understand the hysteria on this board and am finding it harder to sympathize with. It seems pretty unhealthy.

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

Chonchon posted:

Just about half the population has had covid (many multiply!) in Singapore and its literally fine, there have been 1707 fatalities and the vast majority don’t exhibit long-term symptoms. I have had covid thrice, and each time was a headache and a sore throat for like 3 days followed by a week off work.

The experience of just about everyone I know was similar, even an 80 year old dude jammed full of comorbidities.I do not understand the hysteria on this board and am finding it harder to sympathize with. It seems pretty unhealthy.

Over 6.5 million people dead from it. Seems pretty unhealthy. Shouldn't be too hard of a concept to wrap your loving head around.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
90% of Singapore is vaccinated which goes a long way to breaking transmission and mildness of symptoms

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
the people walking around in full on respirators while having 4 shots are insane though

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



Comparing Singapore's response to the mostly US posters concern is insane.

Turtle Watch
Jul 30, 2010

by Games Forum
Oh yeah, I too just take a yearlong sabbatical every time I get sick, don’t know what all the fuss is about this disease?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Lol the US won't even give workers a single day of paid leave but apparently catching something that takes you out for a week at a time is "literally fine"

gently caress off please

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

DiscountDildos posted:

Over 6.5 million people dead from it. Seems pretty unhealthy. Shouldn't be too hard of a concept to wrap your loving head around.

it's only a matter of time before the next epic cspam guy that denies all covid deaths arrives

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the people walking around in full on respirators while having 4 shots are insane though

i might be insane but i've caught covid zero times

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Chonchon posted:

Just about half the population has had covid (many multiply!) in Singapore and its literally fine, there have been 1707 fatalities and the vast majority don’t exhibit long-term symptoms. I have had covid thrice, and each time was a headache and a sore throat for like 3 days followed by a week off work.

The experience of just about everyone I know was similar, even an 80 year old dude jammed full of comorbidities.I do not understand the hysteria on this board and am finding it harder to sympathize with. It seems pretty unhealthy.

k

nigel thornberry
Jul 29, 2013

Chonchon posted:

Just about half the population has had covid (many multiply!) in Singapore and its literally fine, there have been 1707 fatalities and the vast majority don’t exhibit long-term symptoms. I have had covid thrice, and each time was a headache and a sore throat for like 3 days followed by a week off work.

The experience of just about everyone I know was similar, even an 80 year old dude jammed full of comorbidities.I do not understand the hysteria on this board and am finding it harder to sympathize with. It seems pretty unhealthy.

you should ask my grandpa and grandma about their experiences with covid. oh wait, you can’t, they died

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Raskolnikov38 posted:

90% of Singapore is vaccinated which goes a long way to breaking transmission and mildness of symptoms

90% of the Chinese population is vaccinated and 70% have boosters, also the number of deaths has been relatively limited thus far.

COVID is absolutely a deadly disease but it also isn't unstoppable in terms of fatalities. Vaccination, masking, and new treatments have clearly slow the advance of the virus and have significant affects on mortality.

The US very clearly opened up far too soon without a vaccinated public and the results are clear.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

genericnick posted:

Nah, that started earlier than the protests and the extent of anything happening in response was probably over hyped by china watchers. Pretty sure they reduced the entry quarantine(which is the least intrusive and most effective measure) earlier this year.

yep from ten days to five timed perfectly so that it was yet another thing that happened that screwed up my plans

Woke Mind Virus
Aug 22, 2005

Whoops wrong thread

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Ardennes posted:

90% of the Chinese population is vaccinated and 70% have boosters, also the number of deaths has been relatively limited thus far.

COVID is absolutely a deadly disease but it also isn't unstoppable in terms of fatalities. Vaccination, masking, and new treatments have clearly slow the advance of the virus and have significant affects on mortality.

The US very clearly opened up far too soon without a vaccinated public and the results are clear.

my state was maybe the last place in the western world to drop covid zero after omicron became the dominate strain with a 95% rate of vaccination and we have ~800 dead in a population of 2.7 million.

the best case scenario for china's population density is still likely to be hundreds of thousands dead, especially since the vaccination rates for the elderly are the lowest.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

crepeface posted:

my state was maybe the last place in the western world to drop covid zero after omicron became the dominate strain with a 95% rate of vaccination and we have ~800 dead in a population of 2.7 million.

the best case scenario for china's population density is still likely to be hundreds of thousands dead, especially since the vaccination rates for the elderly are the lowest.

Which country? In either case, your death rate would have been ten times higher if you did things "American style."

The Chinese have actually been pushing vaccination rates for elderly people and they have showed results. They are still lagging but they have recently made a lot of progress. In addition, I would assume they are already stockpiling antivirals along with the mass expansion of ICU beds.

There are going to be tens of thousands of deaths at least but at the same time it isn't the same situation as the start of the pandemic. It isn't good but at the same time I do think the Chinese are under more external than internal pressure soften lockdowns to keep production and energy consumption up.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 08:40 on Dec 10, 2022

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Ardennes posted:

90% of the Chinese population is vaccinated and 70% have boosters, also the number of deaths has been relatively limited thus far.

COVID is absolutely a deadly disease but it also isn't unstoppable in terms of fatalities. Vaccination, masking, and new treatments have clearly slow the advance of the virus and have significant affects on mortality.

The US very clearly opened up far too soon without a vaccinated public and the results are clear.

US open too soon because the whole medical sector is over represented in GDP and economy. And the state is not actually paying to it. So open up is good for business.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

love perverse incentives

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Ardennes posted:

Which country? In either case, your death rate would have been ten times higher if you did things "American style."

The Chinese have actually been pushing vaccination rates for elderly people and they have showed results. They are still lagging but they have recently made a lot of progress. In addition, I would assume they are already stockpiling antivirals along with the mass expansion of ICU beds.

There are going to be tens of thousands of deaths at least but at the same time it isn't the same situation as the start of the pandemic. It isn't good but at the same time I do think the Chinese are under more external than internal pressure soften lockdowns to keep production and energy consumption up.

well duh, if we did things like a bad country it would have been bad

im in western australia, which is very isolated and, like china, closed its borders to the rest of the world (including the rest of australia). we had 90% double vaccinated and kept some baseline measures when we opened up:

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1456439172105850881?s=20&t=WYpE6Xq-F_cwC4uMtJaxzQ

i think my state is a decent model of what is going to happen to china. we had a very popular leader who implemented very strict measures, which were followed pretty well. we closed our borders until feb 2022:



~800 deaths for a population of 2.7 million.

a similar death toll for china for their population is 400k deaths. even with the power of xi jinping thought, there's going to be a huge number of deaths over the next year

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-X1m4dGE9Y

never been the biggest fan of this guy but he sure does get good footage

edit oh good he points out the dog meat

i say swears online has issued a correction as of 09:49 on Dec 10, 2022

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