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Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

credburn posted:

There have been more than one occasion I've made a joke and someone told me Chandler already made that same joke :|

Can you be more derivative?

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Every decade there's some wildly popular sitcom that I just don't get and can't find funny. Friends and Big Bang Theory take the loving cake for me in the "Who Watches This?" Award though.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

BiggerBoat posted:

Every decade there's some wildly popular sitcom that I just don't get and can't find funny. Friends and Big Bang Theory take the loving cake for me in the "Who Watches This?" Award though.

Taking the laugh track off of BBT just destroys me.

What is the "joke"? I uh, okay.

But that one and the IT Crowd get recommended to me by relatives because well.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

BiggerBoat posted:

Every decade there's some wildly popular sitcom that I just don't get and can't find funny. Friends and Big Bang Theory take the loving cake for me in the "Who Watches This?" Award though.

Children waiting boredly for the Simpsons to come on.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

But that one and the IT Crowd get recommended to me by relatives because well.
The IT Crowd is orders of magnitude funnier than BBT, even if the author is a pos and some of the jokes have obviously aged badly due to the time it was made in.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

That Italian Guy posted:

The IT Crowd is orders of magnitude funnier than BBT, even if the author is a pos and some of the jokes have obviously aged badly due to the time it was made in.

Oh for sure.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Taking the laugh track out will destory every classic 90s sitcom. Seinfeld and Newsradio rely on the laugh track just as much as Big Bang Theory to make non-jokes sound funny. Big Bang Theory is absolutely still awful though.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
Big Bang Theory is absolutely unwatchable horseshit, but here's a weird lifehack; a decade or so ago the show was on and for some reason the sound was streaming into my bluetooth. I tell you, watching that show is painful. It's so loving bad and the characters are so unlikeable and the jokes and delivery are not in any way funny. But when I was listening to it, I thought it was hilarious. It was like listening to a vaudeville thing, just a bunch of lazy and obvious setups for obvious and simple punchlines, but somehow it worked for me in an audio form. Big Bang Theory is actually really delightful to listen to, when you don't have to see them -- honestly, the characters do so little and there's so little physical comedy that BIg Bang Theory actually probably works better in an audio form anyway. They're so stiff and barely move at all. Their facial expressions seem to be tasked with carrying a lot of the weight and they're not good.

Shrug. Maybe that's a weird quirk of mine, but I want to try this with other shows I have previously not really enjoyed. I don't think I could do this with Friends because that show was on all the time as I was growing up and I don't think I could detach the mannerisms and characters that I know from the voices.

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Anyone who thinks BBT is the worst a show can get never saw two and a half men.

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E: I should clarify two and a half men is a really bad dwarf porno

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Sort of continuing the train of thought from the last two posts (e: the last two above oldpainless), I've never really enjoyed watching Seinfeld...by myself. It's just not very funny, and the characters seem unnecessarily petty and cruel. But when there's someone else watching it with me? It gets to be a whole lot more funnier. So maybe a laughter is contagious sort of thing mixed with some form of the pathetic fallacy? I don't know.

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!
Everybody Loves Raymond is the perfect sitcom and it has a very tender arc between brothers when Ray has to change his brother's UPPER THIGH bandage when he got gored by a bull.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I never hated Big Bang Theory, it had some amusing character moments like Penny helping Sheldon make progress in String Theory. I also like the bit towards the end where Amy and Sheldon get so distracted with a new breakthrough they nearly forget that they are literally at their own wedding.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

oldpainless posted:

Anyone who thinks BBT is the worst a show can get never saw two and a half men.

It helps to understand that Charlie Sheen raped and destroyed the life of a young boy.

Then all the casual sex and drug jokes are funny.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

That Italian Guy posted:

The IT Crowd is orders of magnitude funnier than BBT, even if the author is a pos and some of the jokes have obviously aged badly due to the time it was made in.

For insurance, there's a laugh track :yikes:

Lexorin
Jul 5, 2000

The most irritating thing about the Thanos snap event was that, in 2018 when it happened, the world population was ~7.6 billion. Half of that is ~3.8 billion people, which is the world population around 1972. Then everyone acts like the world is sooo empty because half the world pop is gone. But I seem to recall there still being quite a few people around in the 70s.

Also, it's not like he stopped our pop growth or anything. So we'd be right back where we were in ~60 years and I guarantee that no lessons would have been learned.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

oldpainless posted:

Anyone who thinks BBT is the worst a show can get never saw two and a half men.

True. It's just one of the worst popular shows. Hell, it's one of the most popular sitcoms of all time and so is Friends.

All in the Family, Cheers, MASH, Seinfeld, Sunny in Philly, The Office, The Simpsons...I GET, even though I don't like them all. I realize that humor and comedy are subjective but a lot of times I just sit there and wonder what the gently caress it is I'm not seeing.

I guess I could say the same thing for a lot of movie franchises. Fast & Furious, Rush Hour, John WIck, Scary Movie...not all comedies of course but just things where I'll never understand their popularity.

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He was a pickle. Swear to god it was the funniest poo poo I’ve ever seen

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Lexorin posted:

Also, it's not like he stopped our pop growth or anything. So we'd be right back where we were in ~60 years and I guarantee that no lessons would have been learned.

There was an entire two hour long multimillion dollar CG monstrosity that points this out. Like, it’s literally the entire point of Endgame.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
The entire aftermath of the Halfening in Endgame is one massive RIMM because it so lamely fails to capture just how cataclysmic it is supposed to be while also throwing some truly ill-conceived "actually, the whales have gotten better" poo poo in there.

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

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Thanos's plan is really missing something when it isn't motivated by trying to get Death to go out with him.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Keromaru5 posted:

Thanos's plan is really missing something when it isn't motivated by trying to get Death to go out with him.

You'd need at least three Marvel movies to establish that Death has big tiddies despite being a shrouded skeleton lady. Too much effort, Malthus it is.

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

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Hey, maybe Thanos is a leg man.

Or a femur man, as it were.

I dunno, maybe he's more into her personality.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Keromaru5 posted:

Thanos's plan is really missing something when it isn't motivated by trying to get Death to go out with him.

Nothing turns me on more than someone dramatically increasing my workload.

A Worrying Warlock
Sep 21, 2009

Elissimpark posted:

Nothing turns me on more than someone dramatically increasing my workload.

Yeah, that's basically the canon reaction in the comic as well. I think Death even ends up dating Deadpool because he is immortal so she doesn't have to worry about work.

Mind you, I'm probably getting this wrong because my knowledge of Marvel isn't great.

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Grendels Dad posted:

The entire aftermath of the Halfening in Endgame is one massive RIMM because it so lamely fails to capture just how cataclysmic it is supposed to be while also throwing some truly ill-conceived "actually, the whales have gotten better" poo poo in there.

Yeah, notably some whales would not get better. They're already at crazy reduced levels and they breed super slowly. Cutting their numbers in half might just render a few of the species unsustainable immediately.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
Using time travel to fix a problem is the laziest loving trope. If the material is not about time travel, leave time travel out of it. It's insulting to just "undo" poo poo with time travel; you completely give the finger to everything that came before it, and rendered everything completely inconsequential and ultimately pointless.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Like, since he loving invented time travel overnight, why doesn't Tony first go back and stop the Winter Soldier from assassinating his dad? Maybe then e
Earth would have some wild rear end Stark Tech orbital defence grid that when the aliens show up in avengers 1 or 3.1, they get blown to absolute poo poo and can't gently caress up NYC, or abduct Dr Strange???

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Thanos is equally attracted to her body and her mind.




Perfectly balanced as all things should be.

rocketbrah
Sep 24, 2003

it's peanut butter
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Arrath posted:

Like, since he loving invented time travel overnight, why doesn't Tony first go back and stop the Winter Soldier from assassinating his dad? Maybe then e
Earth would have some wild rear end Stark Tech orbital defence grid that when the aliens show up in avengers 1 or 3.1, they get blown to absolute poo poo and can't gently caress up NYC, or abduct Dr Strange???

Same reason they don't just kill baby Thanos, it just creates a splinter universe and doesn't affect the main one.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


rocketbrah posted:

Same reason they don't just kill baby Thanos, it just creates a splinter universe and doesn't affect the main one.

Then move over to that splinter timeline! gently caress it, only ~~~¤emotions¤~~~ tie you to the current one.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
I like the original script where Thanos was going to destroy the universe cos the averages killed his dog. Obviously than the Wick movies beat them to that and the writers sort of just panicked.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Arrath posted:

Then move over to that splinter timeline! gently caress it, only ~~~¤emotions¤~~~ tie you to the current one.

They already have a Tony!

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

Arrath posted:

Then move over to that splinter timeline! gently caress it, only ~~~¤emotions¤~~~ tie you to the current one.

Yeah and you know, morality and ethics and wanting to save humanity and all that other superhero stuff that actually defines them.

credburn posted:

Using time travel to fix a problem is the laziest loving trope. If the material is not about time travel, leave time travel out of it. It's insulting to just "undo" poo poo with time travel; you completely give the finger to everything that came before it, and rendered everything completely inconsequential and ultimately pointless.

The point is that they can't undo anything because like someone said it won't help the current timeline. They talk about this, that's the whole point of retrieving the stones. If anything you should complain about these stones that have infinite power for some reason.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Tony didn't invent time travel overnight. I'd guess he'd been working on it in some form or another since he got back from Titan. Losing Peter kinda broke him.

It's why when he does finally figure out WTF was going on, he immediately shows up with a shield and knows they turned Scott into a baby before Cap can say anything. He's done the math before and ran into the same issues.

Granted this is pulled directly from my rear end but I wondered how he knew the stuff about baby Scott, and realized he'd been actually tackling the problem for a long time. That's how he had all the equipment ready to roll on short notice. It'd have been built over time (pardon the pun).

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Grendels Dad posted:

You'd need at least three Marvel movies to establish that Death has big tiddies despite being a shrouded skeleton lady. Too much effort, Malthus it is.

They literally could have just used Hela, they spent a whole movie establishing her. I thought that's what they were building up to.

Also the funny thing about time travel as established in Engame is that while Back to the Future comes up, it actually works on Dragon Ball rules, where using it creates an alternate timeline while not affecting your existing one beyond what you bring with you when you come back. And it even involves collecting a set of world-altering macguffins that don't exist in the bad future.

(and I'm always lol that Dragon Ball Super has a time travel arc that explicitly involves two different methods of time travel that explicitly operate by different rules. Most of the characters rapidly lose track of what is actually going on... including, it's implied, the main villain.)

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club

Morpheus posted:

Yeah and you know, morality and ethics and wanting to save humanity and all that other superhero stuff that actually defines them.

The point is that they can't undo anything because like someone said it won't help the current timeline. They talk about this, that's the whole point of retrieving the stones. If anything you should complain about these stones that have infinite power for some reason.

I wasn't specifically talking about that movie -- I haven't actually seen it, I just casually heard they use time travel again. I just meant the trope in general. Like, I'd name some examples but I couldn't without each one being a spoiler, ha

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

credburn posted:

I wasn't specifically talking about that movie -- I haven't actually seen it, I just casually heard they use time travel again. I just meant the trope in general. Like, I'd name some examples but I couldn't without each one being a spoiler, ha

Gotcha. I will say time travel (and parallel universes) plots have a tendency to fall into this sort of nihilistic reasoning about the pointlessness of doing anything when things can just be undone by going elsewhere or just avoiding the cause of the problem altogether. I think Endgame does a decent version of avoiding this when it comes to time travel, and Everything Everywhere All At Once does a good job at addressing this nihilism and confronting it.

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
The peripheral has a really interesting take on the multiple universes using them for population wide medical experiments and extracting profits

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Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

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Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




Mu Zeta posted:

Taking the laugh track out will destory every classic 90s sitcom. Seinfeld and Newsradio rely on the laugh track just as much as Big Bang Theory to make non-jokes sound funny. Big Bang Theory is absolutely still awful though.

Most "taking out the laugh track to show how unfunny something is" videos just mute the audio during the track, leaving the characters sitting in silence and creating a blatant awkward pause. Because the dialogue and acting directions were set up to accommodate the laugh track. Taking just the audio (because this would cause distracting visual cuts) and simply remove the laugh track section (splicing just the talky bits together) usually shows the dialogue moving much more smoothly.

That doesn't automatically make the jokes and dialogue funny or well written, but it does demonstrate that simply silencing the laugh track does more than just focus on the writing.

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