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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Was there ever a point (in recent history) where the anti war movement was "strong" in the US? I was young when the Iraq/Afghanistan wars started so I don't remember much. There were a lot of marches and stuff but they never seemed to result in anything. They were all obsessed with keeping things peaceful and legal, so they were shockingly completely ineffective. The mentality was that getting violent to oppose wars was worse than not opposing the war at all. It was a very stupid time.
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Dec 11, 2022 03:07
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Frosted Flake posted:A prolonged battle of attrition where Ukraine is forced to feed men into Russian fires, with no flank to turn or other way to make use of Russia being thin on the ground, is what they spent this summer trying to avoid so it would be pretty silly to go from those successes (guys riding around in pickups) to Verdun. https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1601359529417244673?t=m5Keg5FJkclHtuobhGY65w&s=19 https://twitter.com/NaomiKimAllen/status/1601438448925409280?t=C8yK_vX__1rsAC1aV1hNug&s=19
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Dec 11, 2022 03:08
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Was there ever a point (in recent history) where the anti war movement was "strong" in the US? I was young when the Iraq/Afghanistan wars started so I don't remember much. There were a lot of marches and stuff but they never seemed to result in anything. No.
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Dec 11, 2022 03:09
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Dec 11, 2022 03:10
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I'd imagine that there would have to be a draft to really light the fire under an antiwar movement. Unless a war dragged on for so long and was so bloody that the purely volunteer army turned on it.
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Dec 11, 2022 03:11
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I'd imagine that there would have to be a draft to really light the fire under an antiwar movement. Yeah, getting people used to striking and whatnot again would probably be necessary too.
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Dec 11, 2022 03:17
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Frosted Flake posted:A prolonged battle of attrition where Ukraine is forced to feed men into Russian fires, with no flank to turn or other way to make use of Russia being thin on the ground, is what they spent this summer trying to avoid so it would be pretty silly to go from those successes (guys riding around in pickups) to Verdun. yes but have you considered that the moment the first contractnik twists his ankle the entire front will turn tail and run?
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Dec 11, 2022 04:17
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speaking of Turkish, I'm watching The Protector on Netflix. decent show, fun to watch
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Dec 11, 2022 04:40
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wasn't a fan myself. only turkish netflix media I didn't immediately bounce off of after a few years of living here is Bir Baskadir
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Dec 11, 2022 05:29
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Was there ever a point (in recent history) where the anti war movement was "strong" in the US? I was young when the Iraq/Afghanistan wars started so I don't remember much. There were a lot of marches and stuff but they never seemed to result in anything. they never have. the Vietnam anti war movement was laughable, then the 03 Iraq protests dwarfed anything that happened back then but entry happened relatively quickly and once the troops were en route everyone thought it was pointless to continue. then they voted for John Kerry
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Dec 11, 2022 05:35
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indigi posted:they never have. the Vietnam anti war movement was laughable, then the 03 Iraq protests dwarfed anything that happened back then but entry happened relatively quickly and once the troops were en route everyone thought it was pointless to continue. then they voted for John Kerry does really feel like the 2003 anti war movement was against starting wars, but had no strong opinion one way or the other on ending/continuing them
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Dec 11, 2022 05:48
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considering how white washed the coverage of the police response everyone saw in 2020 was, it's fun to see reports like this from 2003 and wonder what really happened in the era before ubiquitous video recordingquote:U.S. sees protests big and small
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Dec 11, 2022 06:00
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wow, usually you only hear about Lt. Skip Legs
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Dec 11, 2022 06:07
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Majorian posted:They were all obsessed with keeping things peaceful and legal, so they were shockingly completely ineffective. The mentality was that getting violent to oppose wars was worse than not opposing the war at all. It was a very stupid time.
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Dec 11, 2022 07:31
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American liberals/the ruling class seem to have decided that as long as there are genuinely independent geopolitical powers in Moscow/Beijing/Tehran, we must be at war with them forever. It turns out that will actually make the average American substantially poorer, and the average European much more so, but that's the world we're in now, permanent war with 80% of the Eurasian landmass
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Dec 11, 2022 07:43
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icantfindaname posted:American liberals/the ruling class seem to have decided that as long as there are genuinely independent geopolitical powers in Moscow/Beijing/Tehran, we must be at war with them forever. It turns out that will actually make the average American substantially poorer, and the average European much more so, but that's the world we're in now, permanent war with 80% of the Eurasian landmass The USA-ian economy requires constant war to survive. All hail the MIC. Peace would be a disaster for continental USA. This is all fine and dandy but we have a sitation now where the people running the show may not be quite running the show so things might get a bit iffy at some point. Not to worry! Just consume and don't worry about it.
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Dec 11, 2022 07:49
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it would be a disaster for the MIC and the leveraged leeches that propagate from it, might be better for everyone else.
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Dec 11, 2022 07:57
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Grognan posted:it would be a disaster for the MIC and the leveraged leeches that propagate from it, might be better for everyone else. Yes, completely and objectively right. However the betterment of everyone else has never been part of the equation. Part of the propaganda maybe.
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Dec 11, 2022 08:04
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it usually seems like there's some ultra-left (?) groups which actively roots for the other side no matter what (cheering on galtieri in 1982 or saddam in 1991/2003), lmfao yes! I just learned the other day about the UK Trots who insisted that Argentina was an anti-imperialist state in '82. Fantastic, galaxy-brained stuff. e: I was a freshman in college when the '03 Iraq invasion happened, and I was already listening to a lot of "The Final Cut" by the time it happened. It was a little surreal, how appropriate it was to the events of the day. Majorian has issued a correction as of 08:13 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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Dec 11, 2022 08:10
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Everybody wants their Good Guys vs Bad Guys conflict.
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Dec 11, 2022 10:32
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Orange Devil posted:Everybody wants their Good Guys vs Bad Guys conflict. I can’t possibly imagine how that relates to mainstream perceptions of this war.  Now let me tell you all how Zelensky is Newt Scamander and Putin is Grindelwald…
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Dec 11, 2022 10:40
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Orange Devil posted:Everybody wants their Good Guys vs Bad Guys conflict. Just add VFX for instant victory.
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Dec 11, 2022 10:56
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if you think about it maybe putin should have been time man of the year
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Dec 11, 2022 10:58
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time person of the year should be whoever has objectively produced the most Content
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Dec 11, 2022 11:14
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Cerebral Bore posted:time person of the year should be whoever has objectively produced the most Content Putin wins hands down. Elon's trying his best to catch up but turns out a nuclear armed nation state is still the best way to get in the news.
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Dec 11, 2022 12:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhA1yofpkMg Douglas Macgregor doesn't seem to think the Ukrainian army is in a particularly good position right now.
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Dec 11, 2022 12:45
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Cerebral Bore posted:time person of the year should be whoever has objectively produced the most Content That bellingcat guy.
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Dec 11, 2022 12:47
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GoLambo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhA1yofpkMg The irony is that entire discussion backed up this thread point by point, plagiarism.
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Dec 11, 2022 13:45
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Was there ever a point (in recent history) where the anti war movement was "strong" in the US? I was young when the Iraq/Afghanistan wars started so I don't remember much. There were a lot of marches and stuff but they never seemed to result in anything. the last time the anti-war movement was strong in the US was WW1, when expressing anti-war opinions was banned via the espionage and sedition acts and famous and deeply respected constitutional scholar and scotus judge oliver wendell holmes developed the 'fire in a crowded theater' analogy for when free speech can be banned in reference to espousing pacifism pacifists and socialists were rounded up and arrested en masse, most famously eugene debs who ran for president from prison after the war was over the decorum liberals repealed the most egregious elements and american scholars and historians pretend it was a singular moment that could never be repeated, despite it being repeated to establish concentration camps for japanese americans twenty years later and surely neither of those events could ever happen again you can tell that there has not been a strong anti-war movement in the us since because at no point have the decorum liberals felt compelled to ban it outright and have all dissenters jailed
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Dec 11, 2022 13:53
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There was a strong trend toward isolationism until 1941, it may not be called pacifism itself but it wasn’t pro-war either.
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Dec 11, 2022 14:09
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https://twitter.com/k_sonin/status/1601275303229153280 "I can only conceive of war and politics through the lens of cheap consumerism (as fueled by a Nazi)"
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Dec 11, 2022 14:37
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i havent read this thread in a while, i assume the war with GBS isn't over and I'm preparing an assault directly on the thread. I just want to make sure that we will all be proud of me before i get banned
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Dec 11, 2022 14:38
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Ardennes posted:The irony is that entire discussion backed up this thread point by point, plagiarism. It was really making me chuckle while listening to it. You could practically summarize his entire argument in a few select FF posts.
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Dec 11, 2022 14:40
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i'm going to post very hard and very fast
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Dec 11, 2022 14:40
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deep posting doctrine
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Dec 11, 2022 14:48
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Janitor Ludwich IV posted:i havent read this thread in a while, i assume the war with GBS isn't over and I'm preparing an assault directly on the thread. I just want to make sure that we will all be proud of me before i get banned You've been on that island for too long. That war is over gramps.
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Dec 11, 2022 14:55
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Majorian posted:Putin is Grindelwald… the Johnny Depp version?
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Dec 11, 2022 15:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/k_sonin/status/1601275303229153280 The bourgeoisie of the whole world is convulsed by horror at the desecration of MDF and particle board.
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Dec 11, 2022 15:07
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GoLambo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhA1yofpkMg I thought ff was Canadian!?
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Dec 11, 2022 15:18
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Janitor Ludwich IV posted:i'm going to post very hard and very fast DO NOT.......
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