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Mx. posted:it's a slippery slope until i start calling for the deaths of right-handed people and you know it I wouldn't blame you, right-handed people have killed a lot more people than left-handed people, I think we all know that it's because lefties are weak, in body and spirit
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Seth Pecksniff posted:They joke but welp,
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however, if you're posting that ivermectin will give your coat a beautiful shine that's not disinformation.
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Dec 11, 2022 08:28
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lol imagine being pro-horse paste and thinking your thoughts have any value anywhere
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DeeplyConcerned posted:however, if you're posting that ivermectin will give your coat a beautiful shine that's not disinformation. I don't think taking Ivermectin would make any difference for my winter coat.
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sweet geek swag posted:I don't think taking Ivermectin would make any difference for my winter coat. sorry, I thought everyone else here was a horse spending their day running through the fields.
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sweet geek swag posted:I don't think taking Ivermectin would make any difference for my winter coat. horse paste is like mink oil. You’re supposed to rub it on the coat, you dunce.
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DeeplyConcerned posted:sorry, I thought everyone else here was a horse spending their day running through the fields. Ah, so we've finally found Mike Pence's SA account.
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CuwiKhons posted:Even getting into "I'm not attracted to black/asian/hispanic men or women" isn't technically hate speech, just outing yourself as a racist, which you're certainly entitled to do. Honestly you make a good point. But again you d need a huge treaties on what is and isnt moral. I grew up in a loving cult, and the poo poo they told me in the early 90's still fucks with me. Like the dating thing is it free speech for person to say they only want to date people who are above certain hight, or below a certain weight? Cause There are a bunch of incels ready to cry about that poo poo all day long. gently caress thats basically hate "speech adjacent" or again dog whistling. as for horse paste. I dont have my ebsco host login at the moment but what if I was able to find you a peer reviewed journal article/study that showed horse paste treats covid but doesnt prevent it horse paste does not treat covid/ or prevent it horse paste effectiness is inconclusive gently caress what if I can give you all of the above? Well then people can just chose which ever study support their biases at which point "disinformation" loses all meaning. bonus story one of the ladies at my office her mom loving bought the drat horse past, then put the loving tub in her mouth to get herself a dose, the punger was stuck and then boom unstuck and she basically OD on the horse paste, survived but it hosed her up Treecko posted:Watch out you gonna get banned I m not gonna get banned for stating that moderation is loving hard. To put a finer point on it, absent very clear rules, guidelines, equal applicaiton etc which again is really loving hard people will assume that they are being censored for expressing opinions.
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Ups_rail posted:Honestly you make a good point. But again you d need a huge treaties on what is and isnt moral. I grew up in a loving cult, and the poo poo they told me in the early 90's still fucks with me. lol
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I didn't see a derail about the efficacy of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19 coming
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i believe in leaving people alone with the decisions about who to/not to date even if it's for dubious or even prejudiced reasons because that's such a personal decision involving their autonomy and so on. it gets weird if that's all someone wants to post about though
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Ups_rail posted:As a mod you should know that this is harder than it sounds. Because those terms are not "codified" and if they were, people would just dog whistle, or go up to the rules. So the defacto results are you shutting down hate speech when a person says "I dont support gay marriage" or are you shutting them down for an opinion? No, we aren't talking about judgement calls here. We're talking about anti-vaxxers, election denialists, targeting of LGBTQ people, and racism. This is not some handwavy "who can tell what is right?" thing. That they allowed so much as they did, and how much Elmo seems happy about allowing now, is the clearly bad thing.
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Ups_rail posted:Like the dating thing is it free speech for person to say they only want to date people who are above certain hight, or below a certain weight? Cause There are a bunch of incels ready to cry about that poo poo all day long. gently caress thats basically hate "speech adjacent" or again dog whistling. It's really, really not. Dating a specific individual is not a human right, and anyone is allowed to turn down anyone for any reason they want. Full stop. Someone who says they would never date a black person or a bi person or whatever probably has other views about what minorities should be allowed to do, but it's only those other views that are the problem.
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Ups_rail posted:Honestly you make a good point. But again you d need a huge treaties on what is and isnt moral. I grew up in a loving cult, and the poo poo they told me in the early 90's still fucks with me. lmao come on you're seriously trying to argue that the existence of conflicting results in publications means that "disinformation" is impossible to identify, but that is not at all the case. You're very fuckin' dumb if this is really your opinion, like even dumber than the person in your story who overdosed on horse medication. Double lmao at trying to claim that sexual preference is a form of hate speech, holy gently caress Some rear end in a top hat on the street corner is screaming that Bill Gates is trying to inject microchips into children with the covid vaccine so that it's easier to harvest their adrenochrome, and after watching them you're saying "this is valid and valuable information".
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Ups_rail posted:Honestly you make a good point. But again you d need a huge treaties on what is and isnt moral. I grew up in a loving cult, and the poo poo they told me in the early 90's still fucks with me. Fascinating.
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QuarkJets posted:lmao come on you're seriously trying to argue that the existence of conflicting results in publications means that "disinformation" is impossible to identify, but that is not at all the case. You're very fuckin' dumb if this is really your opinion, like even dumber than the person in your story who overdosed on horse medication. Double lmao at trying to claim that sexual preference is a form of hate speech, holy gently caress Yes horse paste thing is stupid but if you want an actual policy you have to clearly define it somehow or you're going to end up in the same situation the next time where one side always ends up screaming about censorship. Let's say there's a paper claiming that injecting bleach is good and cures covid. Can you tweet about this great new finding? Does twitter review the paper first? How do they evaluate the credibility of the author, do they need a certain number of published articles or citations? Is this "disinformation" until how many studies can replicate the results? Do we need a meta-analysis before you're allowed to  ? We can't even manage to have sensible standards on this dead forum of 1,000 posters or whatever. You can't say the c-word but openly cheering for posters and their relatives to freeze to death is "just politics" and "words can't hurt you just log off" apparently.
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QuarkJets posted:lmao come on you're seriously trying to argue that the existence of conflicting results in publications means that "disinformation" is impossible to identify, but that is not at all the case. You're very fuckin' dumb if this is really your opinion, like even dumber than the person in your story who overdosed on horse medication. Double lmao at trying to claim that sexual preference is a form of hate speech, holy gently caress I m about to go to bed but your using abusive language at me is rude I m gonna ask you politely to apologize. Also I think your doing what's called a strawman. I said nothing about microchips bill gates or adrenochrome I didn't even mention stupid news sites. I directly said peer reviewed journal/studies and possed the issue of concensus. What I think your doing besides strawmaning me to say poo poo I didn't say is playing Jordan Peterson tier game with rhetoric using conspiracy theory in place of disinformation so please define the term disinformation.
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Ups_rail posted:I m about to go to bed but your using abusive language at me is rude I m gonna ask you politely to apologize. lol
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Wait if all this is just a round about way to defend the stupid horse medicine poo poo why aren’t you in the Covid thread. It wouldn’t go any better there but at least it makes sense
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Ups_rail posted:I m about to go to bed but your using abusive language at me is rude I m gonna ask you politely to apologize. I will never apologize to antivaxxers or their extremely gullible defenders 
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Ups_rail posted:I m about to go to bed but your using abusive language at me is rude I m gonna ask you politely to apologize. hey op your very fuckin dumb hth
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$11 a month and you still need to look at ads lmao
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Actually ivermectin was shown to help in a few niche cases, those cases being you were infected with horse tapeworms or hookworms and hence killing the parasites would let your immune system recover from the parasite load to attack the covid. Antiparasite medicine otherwise has no mechanism of action on viruses, and claiming it did is like admitting you're full of tapeworms because you cant cook and dont wash your hands after you poo poo.
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It’s come up multiple times in this thread that the Twitter employees on H1-B visas are essentially indentured servants and their continuing to work for Elon is not an endorsement of their working conditions or direction the company is going. I get that it won’t be as easy for them to just up and change jobs as American employees, but do they really not have the agency to leave? Is the tech job market so shaky right now that an engineer/developer at a Big(ish) Tech company would not be able to land a job given a few months? I know there have been a load of layoffs in the tech sector recently but my understanding is these have primarily been general & administrative and sales & marketing roles.
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Nah, outrail is right, most mods ARE dumb as gently caress so that kind of confusion tracks.
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Maybe they actually have left and there's just some pillows with business shirts on them positioned in the office chairs.
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Ups_rail posted:As a mod you should know that this is harder than it sounds. Because those terms are not "codified" and if they were, people would just dog whistle, or go up to the rules. So the defacto results are you shutting down hate speech when a person says "I dont support gay marriage" or are you shutting them down for an opinion? Looking into it.
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Halisnacks posted:It’s come up multiple times in this thread that the Twitter employees on H1-B visas are essentially indentured servants and their continuing to work for Elon is not an endorsement of their working conditions or direction the company is going. Do only certain jobs qualify to give employees h1-b visas? It might suck, but honestly doing a stint in retail during holiday season sounds like it'd still be better than working underneath Elon. Just until they can find another coding job.
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I'm no expert, but from what I've gathered the other times it's come up, a lot of visas require getting a job within your field, not just any job, and H1-B specifically involve a fair amount of paperwork on the employer's side. If it were simple, the 60 day deadline wouldn't be as punitive as it is. Probably doesn't help that you're competing for what few openings there are with everyone else who also wants to get the hell away from Elon.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:They joke but "Hitler feeling increasingly isolated and alone" - Beatrice Haberman
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People really don't understand how hard it is to immigrate most places. In a previous life I worked for immigration (not America but a western country) and having a look it appears the requirements are similar to what ours were: -You need a job offer -it has to be skilled work (there's a list of job types and whether management positions are skilled is certainly debatable but you can absolutely rule out retail, hospitality, customer service etc) -you have to have relevant qualifications and experience, at least a bachelor's degree in most cases so you can't move into just any skilled work -this is the kicker: the company have to prove they have attempted to recruit locally and cannot find any Americans to fill the role. This can be hard as gently caress to do, especially for smaller companies. There are some industries/positions where the government officially recognises an ongoing shortage but that really just changes the paperwork and evidence the employer has to provide. So no, Leon's slaves, who are now locked in the compound working 25 hours a day and absolutely will be fired if they're caught looking for other employment, can't go down to Walgreens and stock shelves instead. For most of them this will be the culmination of their life's work and their only shot at living somewhere they believe has more opportunity than where they came from. There's a high chance they're also sending significant amounts of money home to provide a much better life and opportunities for relatives and friends. When you weigh all the against Musk's bullshit, the only thing you should feel towards the employees trapped there is sympathy.
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Ups_rail posted:as for horse paste. I dont have my ebsco host login at the moment but what if I was able to find you a peer reviewed journal article/study that showed
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Kingo Ligma posted:When you weigh all the against Musk's bullshit, the only thing you should feel towards the employees trapped there is sympathy. That's what I do feel, and I hope I didn’t sound like I was victim blaming. I appreciate the write up over the sheer detail of how hard immigrating is, can only hope for the best for the employees at this rate. 
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I certainly do feel sympathy for immigrants (or anyone) who has to work for Elon for lack of better options. But I also have a lot of non-American US-based people in my network who have changed jobs as they pleased over the years, who worked at companies with less name recognition than Twitter, so I assumed “when there’s a will, there’s a way”. … That was before 2022, though, so I take it the (tech) labour market has rapidly shifted in favour of companies in the last half year or so.
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Splicer posted:This is stupid and you're stupid. There is a huge difference between "wide selection of peer reviewed studies say A and single study thats been eviscerated for lovely test procedure and thoroughly debunked says B" and something like twitter can definitely hire someone, or rather a pool of someones, who can tell the difference or at least know who to call to tell the difference. But if we assume all things are equal and there is no difference between people fighting for equality and literal nazis, then Twitter comes off looking very bad. I am very smart.
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